ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

1. 2001, 2. Vertigo, 3. Mulholland Drive, 4. Do the Right Thing + two more, no idea (not Zodiac, I'm sorry to say).

(Per KJB, I've named Mulholland Drive in full, just so no one thinks I mean Mulholland Falls.)

Sorry to break in on the Renoir talk; I have my own reasons.

clemenza needs to be taken to the zone

les regles du jeu is interesting, seminal and fun but i hardly ever think about it

Guys, the point of that anecdote obviously wasn't that Renoir was a committed fascist but that he was mercurial and somewhat superficial in his political beliefs. Which needn't mean anything at all about his films, it's just biographical trivia!

I think this story says a lot about people who are good at seeing people.

Damn, I keep forgetting Stalker--that's #5.

(Per KJB, I've named /Mulholland Drive/ in full, just so no one thinks I mean /Mulholland Falls/.)

XP I think you mean Cannonball Run...II

there's another ozu coming

^^^My favorite West Side Story number

No Country might not have made it?

You're all forgetting Gandhi.

Yeah, + Tokyo Story--those six.

What about JFK???

Thank you for not being LAZY, clemenza! :) xoxoxo

(xpost) That would be funny. Followed by 100 posts quoting it.

Gandhi is less infuriating than No Country for Adults.

Mulholland Dr. is the movie. MullHolland Drive is a popular YouTube series with Martin Mull and Tom Holland driving around picking up mystery guests who sit in the backseat with a bag over their head and Martin and Tom have to play 20 questions to guess who it is. Much of the humor comes from their age difference, with Holland never knowing who anyone born before 1980 is, and Mull the reverse.

True: I just checked YouTube to see if that was real.

Based on the voting so far, I suspect another Altman over Lee.

xp

Anyone who knows Martin Mull feel free to pitch it.

mulholland dr is only ok

That's not what clemenza was referring too, Lynch dorks.

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06. THE NIGHT OF THE HUNTER (Charles Laughton, 1955, USA) [1,651.30 points; 20 votes]
S&S: 53 | TSPDT: 43 | BOXD: 141

MORBS SEZ: "The child actors in Hunter aren't particularly outstanding, are they? I also prefer about ten Mitchum performances to this one, even though he's indelible … Has a horror villain ever been dispatched by a superficial wound from an old biddy with a shotgun? then led away by the police... insufficiently apocalyptic ... also 'spawn of the devil's own strumpet' is one of my fave things to call kids … there's no doubt it's a superbly crafted religious-fable-meets-Big Bad Wolf film, but something about it still bugs me. Mostly Lillian Gish."

Acting is so 2010. Concern for "good acting" has blinded many a viewer to genius cinema. And the condemnations are never insightful, pivoting on some bogus, received notion of verisimilitude. Yawn. And yeah, if you told me this was the greatest film of all time, I wouldn't argue with you for a second.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, May 20, 2011 11:53 AM

loooooooooove night of the hunter
― diamanda ram dass (Edward III), Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:17 PM

Once again, a film so ahead of its time it basically destroyed the director's career.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:18 PM

i still wish i liked this film more than i do
― amateur!st (amateurist), Thursday, January 1, 2004 12:44 PM

Old things bore me.
― Llahtuos Kcin (Nick Southall), Thursday, January 15, 2004 8:40 AM

I love Curse [of the Cat People] for many of the same reasons I love Night of the Hunter. It doesn't read as "horror" as well to those who didn't enjoy the thrill of horror as kids.
― michael assbender (Eric H.), Thursday, October 13, 2011 1:40 PM (7 months ago)

love night of the hunter, don't consider it a horror movie … i don't know what it is exactly
― congratulations (n/a), Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:17 PM

i love this film so much i can barely bring myself to defend it. i dunno, i'm sure there are things to criticize about it, but none of the criticisms on this thread really ring true for me -- or if they do, i don't see them as flaws. like, the kids undeniably act 'poorly' and woodenly, but somehow that works for me as part of the texture of the film. i sure don't think that more 'realistic' kids would have made the film better.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Friday, May 20, 2011 12:13 PM

I was genuinely shocked to see Shelley Winters dead at the bottom of the lake in a movie from 1955.
― it was a dark and stormy genitals. (Phil D.), Wednesday, May 23, 2012 1:20 PM

TS Out Of The Past vs. Night Of The Hunter
Which is the iconic Robert Mitchum performance: the passive wisecracking tough guy or the malignant preachifying bogeyman? Votes cast for Cape Fear go to Night of the Hunter.
― James Redd and the Blecchs, Tuesday, March 20, 2007 11:00 PM

You cannot poo poo the scare factor of this movie if you didn't see it when you were a little kid. this was the catalyst of many years worth of nightmares. still one of my three or four fav movies evah, also solidified Robert Mitchum as my future sexual ideal. creeeeepy :(
― AIDS BENEDICT (Adrian Langston), Tuesday, December 28, 2004 5:01 AM

i put that "pretty fly" song on all my mixtapes back when i was small
― good news if you wear cargo shorts (contenderizer), Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:08 PM

For a second I thought you were talking about "Pretty Fly (For a White Guy)" and was confused.
― Cunga, Tuesday, July 20, 2010 5:20 PM

whooooa nice!!

*to

(xpost) All that would be left is Nashville, though, and I'd say no chance. I've always been one of its more vocal advocates on here--possibly the only person who loves the songs--and even I didn't vote for it. That's another film that I think will fade in the next decade or two as the moment that produced it recedes.

Wow!

The day's first genuine surprise.

Wow. Didn't vote for this but won't complain about it, it's great and one of a kind. (hat tip to my hometown boy James Agee, though obviously most credit goes to Laughton)

i love this movie so much

Oh cool, first thing in the top 20 that I haven't seen yet.

i forgive the list for previous transgressions, this rules

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, November 4, 2021 4:37 AM (two hours ago)

maybe i won't be excoriated if i decide to post my ballot, then. Aguirre was high on my list but so were at least a few that people noisily griped about :(

Mitchum's slow-building scream in the river is such an all-time moment.

lol i sampled that in a song one time

Best movie by a director who never made another film.

this is a great film

So either one of those tight six isn't getting in, along with no Casablanca, no Raiders, no Breathless, no Rashomon, no Jaws, no Badlands, some Country for Old Men... or one of those (or something else) is in, and two of the six are out.

i don't know on what kind of world casablanca is a contender for placing?

seriously

Did Leonard Maltin send a ballot?

i have never seen or heard anyone ever have a conversation about casablanca. it is a very famous movie, is it one a lot of people care about?

No, fair enough, it's still a Big Film in my head but no-one been seriously suggesting it so far.

xp 'ability to generate conversation' is not really the same as quality, is it?

My (latest) longshot surprise is Double Indemnity.

i still - somehow - harbour a crazy hope...

yeah, looking forward to Citizen Kane, Vertigo & Casablanca placing outside top 77 and a DNP for Shawshank.

― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 09:36 (one week ago)

Kane and Casablanca are the ones that will place that I'm good with.

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 08:52 (yesterday)

I knew I hadn't entirely imagined it!

Ok, I revisited the relevant scenes of Tavernier's doc:

Jean Paul Le Chanois is in archive footage suggesting that what drew Renoir to political movements was mostly a love of strenght. The quote about fascism and marxism I mentioned comes from Charles Spaak, and it differs substantially from what I wrote, his take was more that Renoir, if he saw a well dressed fascist that moved with style, would decide that this man's cause was his cause without considering the contradictions between being a marxist and being a fascist. But, Spaak also says, he was the kind of guy you'd forgive anything.

Likewise Gabin doesn't refer to Renoir as a human being as "less than zero" but rather "a whore". Tavernier says Gabin told him that, prior to escaping to the US, Renoir gathered all his actors and told them that he was going there to "show the Americans that Pétain's regime is full of good will towards them". There's also the matter of some letters Renoir sent to the minister of information in 1940 complaining about "subversive elements" but I don't know enough about the historical context to understand that fully.

Anyway this is all within the context of a much larger appreciation of Renoir's work, with lots of interesting stuff on his use of depth of field, the way he dealt with actors, the fallacy that he hated the studio, etc. Great doc!

ty for viewing + expanding, Daniel :)

Iirc, The Night Of The Hunter was #2 in the '50s Poll (the #1 probably coming up)

I enjoyed the YMRT podcast episode on Night of the Hunter and had already been meaning to check it out.

Top 10 is making up for 20-11 so far