ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

Save us, Eric!

It'd be cool if there were porn versions of art films: Once Upon a Time in Assholia or Celine and Julie Go Motor Boating.

― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 10:14 PM (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink

What about Flaming Creatures (von Sternberg taken to an explicit extreme)?

Also, yelling about dumb low-stakes stuff is a lot more fun than yelling about the world literally burning.

― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Thursday, November 4, 2021 8:50 AM (thirty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The reason I enjoy (most) ILX film threads.

I do both Eric

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10. THE SHINING (Stanley Kubrick, 1980, UK) [1,284.77 points; 22 votes]
S&S: 120 | TSPDT: 84 | BOXD: 81

MORBS SEZ: "I'm trying to think if any other Great Director's Worst Film has inspired such slavish devotion..."

Do people just not count Fear and Desire when making statements like that?
― temporarily embarrassed thousandaire (Eric H.), Monday, November 25, 2019 4:05 PM

the shining is ace.
― ethan, Sunday, August 5, 2001 7:00 PM

The Shining sucks, it's not even scary.
― Ally, Sunday, August 5, 2001 7:00 PM

we were watching this tnite for halloween and it's amazing how fresh + relevant it feels today maybe more than ever
― Mordy, Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:55 PM

especially wild when you recall how reviled it was on release
― wayne trotsky (Simon H.), Wednesday, October 31, 2018 11:57 PM

I'd remix this movie by using it as kindling
― El Tomboto, Monday, November 26, 2007 2:18 PM

It's about Stanley Kubrick being a pretentious twerp, and Jack Nicholson & Shelley Duvall over-acting. Scatman Crothers, though, saves this flick from COMPLETE uselessness.
― David Raposa, Sunday, August 5, 2001 7:00 PM

duvall should get some kind of special endurance award. i feel like it's her and not jack who makes things like the bat scene insanely upsetting and scary instead of just loljack.
― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, October 31, 2012 6:58 PM

If anybody here could provide me with information regarding the paintings/posters of nude women with afros on Scatman Crothers' character Dick Hallorann's walls, I would greatly appreciate it. Extensive Googling has turned up nil so far.
― Stuart, Wednesday, January 29, 2003 4:47 PM

if nobody ever posted anything about stanley kubrick on the internet ever again, i wouldnt mind
― socki (s1ocki), Wednesday, August 20, 2014 4:49 PM

If I'm gonna get my balls blown off for a word... my word is poontang
― turds (Hungry4Ass), Wednesday, October 31, 2012 4:46 PM

http://i.imgur.com/ZpN6Lda.jpg
― 乒乓, Wednesday, February 13, 2013 10:11 PM

(Not a Morbs medalist, to say the least.)

*leaves room to die in global forest fire*

it is scary for an hour, and then it gets rapidly less scary, and then the ending is wack

we have officially annoyed morbs as much as possible by placing the shining and alien

yeah we're not getting Bunuel are we

starting to fear for Renoir as well at this point

I used to watch it whenever I'd see it on TV but I don't think I ever found it actually scary even as a kid. Did not enjoy the documentary with all the wacky theories about it.

One Kubrick left

The greatest one at least

yeah we're not getting Bunuel are we

starting to fear for Renoir as well at this point

― imago, Thursday, November 4, 2021

This poll's starting to feel like Hour Three of Election Night '16.

xp The one most deserving of wacky theories.

(Oh yeah, that's the third Kubrick.)

This movie cracking the top 10 makes me the most sad Morbs isn't here to yell at us all.

One Kubrick left

― xyzzzz__, Thursday, November 4, 2021 6:48 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

The greatest one at least

― imago, Thursday, November 4, 2021 6:48 AM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

yes, eyes wide shut

If only

"Fuck."

oh i like this film

i mean not *that* much

a horror movie for people who don't want to be scared

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09. AGUIRRE: THE WRATH OF GOD (Werner Herzog, 1972, West Germany) [1,324.8 points; 15 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 73 | TSPDT: 102 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I've seen one great film from him and it's Aguirre … KK is actually *relatively* restrained as Aguirre. Love him matter-of-factly heaving the flaming gunpowder barrel off the raft."

Few films have affected me as much as Aguirre truly breathtakingly beautiful, sometimes overwhelmingly so, from its Popul Vuh soundtracked first scene to Kinski's meglomania and the monkeys at the end.
― stevo, Monday, November 5, 2001 7:00 PM

aguirre's in my top 10 evah.
― Edward III, Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:44 PM

I'm all about Aguirre, Zorn des Gottes.
― My Little Ruud Book (Ken L), Tuesday, August 29, 2006 10:04 PM

gotta be fiddycaraldo -- insane movie about an insane dude, directed by an insane dude w/ an insane behind-the-scenes story. though that description could just as equally describe aguirre, come to think of it.
― Eisbaer, Wednesday, May 23, 2007 3:36 PM

Search: Aguirre, Fitzcarraldo (which really ought to be called Aguirre 2: The Opera)
― m.e.a. (m.e.a.), Wednesday, May 19, 2004 10:05 PM

I just saw Aguirre and it's insane. watching it made me hate all those widescreen pretty-beautiful epics that are ten a penny. it's so fucking real-looking. anthony minghella please watch a Herzong film then give up or kill yourself. obviously Aguirre is astonishing to look at but makes you realise, to an extent, that most films are just cinematography and lightning with actual direction and vision and depth waaaaaaay down the list. films are too beautiful now. all surface no feeling. also - MONKEYS!
― jed_ (jed), Thursday, April 21, 2005 9:42 PM

loved the descent into the surreal! I was again initially put off by conquistadors in Peru speaking German, but acclimated, in the end it was a minor quibble. the effects of hardships endured by cast/crew in this film really added to its sense of closing walls
― Dan S, Wednesday, October 10, 2018 8:15 PM

aguirre wrath of god is amazing, love how it degenerates into a sort of ceci n'est pas un arrow in my leg existentialist insanity. some of the deaths are as blackly comic as any on film
― rock (Jack White, Coldplay) (imago), Friday, April 3, 2015 5:18 PM

Nosferatu and Aguirre are both larf riots.
― The Real Dirty Vicar, Sunday, June 24, 2007 4:37 PM

A lot of music I play these days is basically extended Aguirre soundtrack rip-offs.
― blotter Budweiser Hackeysadk (nickalicious), Friday, February 9, 2007 9:52 AM

WH the secret Paulette: "Brian de Palma is certainly the better director than me."
― mark s, Monday, November 7, 2011 6:29 AM

oh sick! yeah this is great

see this is the kind of ludicrous placing i can get down with

^^^

this is a great placement on its own merits and for increasing the drama as to what omissions are coming...

i remember when i first moved to london and didn't know anybody and i replied to an ad looking for a room in a flatshare and they were like 'we're all really into movies and we have a movie night' and i thought that sounded fun and then i went there and they had all these dvds like kill bill and i was like hmm maybe not (lol the detail i left out was that I actually went out with work friends to the pub beforehand and came about an hour late and very drunk so they didn't want me to move in anyway)

I went with grizzly man as my herzog vote but this is great too.

me too!

I prefer him as documentarian too but I won't quibble.

Aguirre is maybe the greatest White Man's Folly movie ever, which is a crowded field. Was in my top 25. One of those movies that destabilizes as it goes so that by the end the whole film feels as crazy as Kinski.

I wonder if watching himself in Burden of Dreams inspired what would come.

The only thing that tips the scales for me on his documentaries is his voiceover work.

i forgive the list for previous transgressions, this rules

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkDcuDVrHqQ

I need a documentary of the time he saved Joaquin Phoenix's life after a car accident.

I voted for other Herzogs but worried the vote-splitting had condemned him to no place, so that's almost as pleasing to see as The Green Ray.

I too voted for another Herzog but I figured this one would get on the list if any did. Like a lot of the poll entries, it sits on the line of "art film" and "edgy genre film".

Shout out to old-school, red envelope Netflix; Aguirre, Cries and Whispers, and Picnic at Hanging Rock were the first discs I ever received from them.

ha, I still subscribe to Red Envelope Netflix. Not everything's available for streaming!

(gets red pen ready to grade the wokeness of xyzzzz's ballot)

I wonder if watching himself in Burden of Dreams inspired what would come.

What do you mean, Herzog reinventing himself as a "personality"?

Partly, yeah.

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08. TAXI DRIVER (Martin Scorsese, 1976, USA) [1,403.47 points; 19 votes]
S&S: 16 | TSPDT: 15 | BOXD: 125

MORBS SEZ: "I like the remake better (The King of Comedy)"

The King of Comedy is really his most perfect work, like a better version of Taxi Driver without the violence and exploitation aspect. But the situations depicted in it are often so embarrassing it's almost unbearable to watch.
― Tuomas, Friday, August 15, 2008 7:03 AM

I like it but its way over-rated. Its like a Paul Schrader wank-fantasy with a awful "I told you so" ending. "Falling down" is a lot wittier and heartfelt although I dont think anyone takes it seriously cos Michael Douglas is in it and Joel "Batman and Robin-St Elmos fire" Schumacher directed it.
― Michael, Thursday, June 7, 2001 7:00 PM

So ridiculously better than Raging Bull and Goodfellas combined.
― boring movies are the most boring (Eric H.), Monday, September 14, 2009 12:22 PM

ok i will say that Travis seems inconsistent but in ways that make complete sense to me, it being the journey of someone who is losing his mind. And everything that happens to him sets him down on his path. Also the film spends a lot of time making sure that while he's a character to have some sympathy for, we see that Travis is never wronged or misunderstood. The other characters react to him in ways that are entirely appropriate, bc he's a creepy fuckin guy. obv of course Scorsese/Schrader/De Niro really nailed him, he's such a great character.
― omar little, Tuesday, January 28, 2020 1:27 PM

i don't really see how anyone can take the coda of the film (after the bloodbath) as anything _but_ some kind of fantasy. not only is the way its shot thoroughly (and clearly intentionally) dreamlike and disorienting (the most obvious example being the way cybill shepard appears in the rear-view mirror, like a disembodied portrait), but it simply doesn't make any literal sense. (one thing i noted was that the voice-over of iris's "dad" has the same awkward, staccato cadence of deniro reading the fabulist letter to _his_ parents.) it's interesting that neither schrader nor scorsese really seem to have intended for audiences to identify with the lead character, strictly speaking. but by making much of the film in an expressionist mode, in which we are aligned with deniro (and arguably inside his head-space), there's really an encouragement to do so. i think part of the point of the scene with scorsese as the taxi fare is actually to break some of that possible identification w/ bickle. what the character played by scorsese says is utterly harrowing/horrifying. bickle's initial reaction seems to be discomfort, but by the end he seems to be identifying with the rant and envisioning something similar. in other words i imagine this was designed by the filmmakers to be a moment where our reactions and those of bickle diverge in a very strong sense. i'm not sure if it has that affect on everyone in the audience though.
― flesh, the devil, and a wolf (wolf) (amateurist), Sunday, June 10, 2012 10:22 PM

Cybill Shepard was always kinda J-Lo, wasn't she?
― Ally (mlescaut), Saturday, December 21, 2002 9:29 PM

LAST SCENE IS A FANTASY how many times do I have to say it
― Shakey Mo Collier, Thursday, August 21, 2008 1:09 PM

Do you think it bothers Jodie Foster that she hasn't changed a bit - face, voice, mannerisms - in 30 years?
― milo z, Friday, August 31, 2007 11:23 PM

I think she sleeps okay.
― Alex in SF, Friday, August 31, 2007 11:23 PM

At least she's not a botox monster.
― marmotwolof, Saturday, September 1, 2007 12:30 AM

That still looks like a sequence in a Hou film.

I get that Taxi Driver is a ugh-yesterday kinda choice, but it dances a dangerous dance that no other Scorsese film outside of, yeah, King of Comedy does for me.

I like it but its way over-rated. Its like a Paul Schrader wank-fantasy with a awful "I told you so" ending. "Falling down" is a lot wittier and heartfelt although I dont think anyone takes it seriously cos Michael Douglas is in it and Joel "Batman and Robin-St Elmos fire" Schumacher directed it.
― Michael, Thursday, June 7, 2001 7:00 PM

lmao this is the worst post i've ever seen

I was one of those people who used to like thinking of the ending as a fantasy but in this era of Kyle Rittenhouse I don't anymore.