Joe Money, Joe Problems: the November 2021 U.S. Politics Thread

those individual bills would all get filibustered

You have to tie bills together to get them passed (same as it ever was) and no one would actually care anyway. 'Individual bills' is one of those supposedly common man appeal things that matter less to people than getting the shit they want.

Yeah. Infrastructure bill ff passed by House, is a "single" yet def omnibus bill, like The Other One.

it's a great question, though - why can't bills just be raised and voted on in that simple way? the first answers are correct, and there's more to add to that. but the first question is the important part. it's really sad that things can't be addressed in that way, via a vote on a single issue, to see where people stand.

the more complicated the legislative process is, the more opportunities there are for shenanigans and distortions. i think that's one of my more conservative opinions actually

why can't bills just be raised and voted on in that simple way?

Long Answer: because the men who ran everything when the US constitution was written and the senate formed its filibuster tradition hated and feared democracy. since then these roadblocks have served as a fortress against the nation having 'too much' democracy and the powerful, or simply those groups most favored by this system such as the smaller or more rural states, have jealously guarded their continuation.

Short Answer: Mitch McConnell

Has this lady considered drinking some water?

"A gallon of milk was $1.99. Now it's $2.79. When you buy 12 gallons a week times four weeks, that's a lot of money."@EvanMcS goes grocery shopping with the Stotlers and shows us how badly inflation is hitting the middle class. pic.twitter.com/39hPPRHLja

— Brianna Keilar (@brikeilarcnn) November 4, 2021

To be fair, they do mention raising 9 children so I don't think 12 is that insane for a family of 11.

Still, it is an abso0lutely bizarre framing for the story and I'm sorry she hasn't shopped for milk since 1990 when it was last $1.99 or so.

I prescribe milk and trying some butt stuff going forward.

Water and butt stuff, time to skip the milk.

Powdered milk, then they'll know real suffering.

Part of the issue is that people don't need to drink that much milk— suggested servings of dairy are numbers pushed by the Dairy Industry.

Also, the idea of that much milk makes me want to fucking barf.

I see cold glasses of milk as a dinner table beverage and I don't understand. Mix a Negroni.

Not that I care to be captain save a dairy industry guy, but some of the middle America sneering on this board is so fucking gross. 9 kids eating cereal for breakfast every day is going to use up a lot of milk, it's not like these are weird aliens.

here's a Republican that just won in NJ

Wow sexy ass body

— Edward Durr (@edwarddurr1) February 14, 2018

I see cold glasses of milk as a dinner table beverage and I don't understand. Mix a Negroni.

My kids prefer aperol spritzes, but ok

a gallon of milk is like $5

I see cold glasses of milk as a dinner table beverage and I don't understand. Mix a Negroni.

Not for adults, but midwest kids got a cold glass of milk with every dinner whether you wanted it or not. Something I'm glad to have left in the past.

i'm a 2 gallon per month kind of milk drinker, so i get the good shit

I don't understand this.

i actually try to drink milk, when i can. i'm skin and bones and my butt hurts when i sit on non-padded surfaces. milk puts a thin protective layer of butt fat on me, barely there at all but enough to give me some comfort in this very sharp, solid world

I'm like you and I eat almonds instead.

down to the butthurt

oh i eat granola as well. that's to put some padding on my elbows so they don't snap in half

My dad drank a glass of milk with dinner every night until he died. Didn’t matter what was being eaten - steak/milk, catfish/milk, chicken fried rice/milk, taco night/milk. Awful.

Not for adults, but midwest kids got a cold glass of milk with every dinner whether you wanted it or not.

This is a *wild* generalization, also this is a ungodly amount of milk.

It's been so long since I drank actual from-a-cow milk that I literally can't remember how long it's been. I eat cheese twice, maybe three times a month, on pizza, but that's pretty much the extent of my dairy intake. The weird thing about that story isn't that a family of 11, nine of them kids, drinks a lot of milk - it's that CNN thought "let's interview these two psychos who have nine fucking kids to give the folks at home a sense of what life is like for Real Average Americans."

Even worse as he got older and his doctor made him switch to 2%.

what was his butt like, though?

(jk)

Blessedly not lactose intolerant.

milk is totally subsizdized as well. . . a daycare nearby gets a couple of gallons each week b/c of federal funding, and there is a certain amount they have to get otherwise they don't get the $, and they can't go through all the milk each week, they either give it away or chuck it. . . we're in the midwest btw

Milk contains more than I’d really thought about before, it seems.

This is a *wild* generalization, also this is a ungodly amount of milk.

I don't think it's that wild? I would say 80% of the kids I knew growing up had a glass of milk with dinner, but I did grow up in the middle of farm country. I'm not suggesting this was a universal experience, but I think some people itt are misremembering the extent to which milk was pushed back in the '70s and '80s.

I also don't think it's an "ungodly" amount of milk for a family of 11. It's a lot, for sure, but it's not the "holy shit, this is unbelievable" level that some are suggesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=InOuPYCsUjs

my god I remember these

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XgQWXroVzS4

Not that I care to be captain save a dairy industry guy, but some of the middle America sneering on this board is so fucking gross. 9 kids eating cereal for breakfast every day is going to use up a lot of milk, it's not like these are weird aliens.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, November 4, 2021 5:57 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

jon, they'd have to be drinking more than a gallon a day PER PERSON, some of whom are small children. That's not remotely normal.

+1 for milk with dinner, I'm lacoste intolerant these days but my dad sneers at me for drinking wine as he downs two glasses of milk.

yeah they are totally weird aliens you don't need that much milk

It does the body good!

it def does stuff to yr body

we should poll this

totally

milk has more sugar in it than anything else iirc, it's not a great mass builder, just to give you all the sw0le perspective here

jon, they'd have to be drinking more than a gallon a day PER PERSON, some of whom are small children. That's not remotely normal.

This is not true. They are saying 12 gallons PER WEEK. 11 gallons per day per person would mean they are buying 132 gallons per week.

12 gallons per week / 11 person household means 1.09 gallons for each member for a week. Which, again, I would not argue is that weird.

"would argue is not that weird"

it's totally weird to drink a glass of milk w/every meal which is how much you'd have to drink

A gallon a week would not get you a glass for 21 meals. Christ.

I mean, if you consider 7 ounces enough sure, but I would also venture a guess that the majority of the milk in question is being used for kid's cereal.

I hate that I am even defending this, but some of you have such a bizarre take on this.

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