for those that like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:40 (four years ago)
i've never seen blade
― have you considered that there are 1 shades of gray (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:40 (four years ago)
Blade Runner is great and was on my long list. Like Alien (the other Ridley Scott I voted for) it presents a fully conceived dystopian world and thinks at least somewhat seriously about how it works — economically, culturally, technologically. Cast is good, the plot gets a little murky, but overall just a great cinematic experience imo.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:41 (four years ago)
This is the part of the thread where the back half of "Layla" revs up on the soundtrack.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:41 (four years ago)
lol
― have you considered that there are 1 shades of gray (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:45 (four years ago)
i went to film school with insufferable people who wanted to be scorsese so it took some cajoling for me to see taxi driver (good), king of comedy (excellent), gangs of new york (yawn) and the aviator (meh) and think I may have slept through the color of money, haven't seen any others, guess I will see this one now
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:47 (four years ago)
taxi driver (good), king of comedy (excellent), gangs of new york (yawn) and the aviator (meh)
Absolutely OTM assessments there.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:48 (four years ago)
fwiw, I just bought a paperback copy of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? at a charity bookshop last week and on its cover it's been prominently re-titled as Blade Runner with the original title all faded out and unnoticeable. At least they still listed the author as P.K. Dick, not Ridely Scott.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:49 (four years ago)
Mean Streets and Casino are very good too.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:49 (four years ago)
i think i'd rather watch Silence than most of his others at any given moment now
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:49 (four years ago)
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13. CLOSE-UP (Abbas Kiarostami, 1990, Iran) [1,143.75 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]S&S: 39 | TSPDT: 81 | BOXD: 49
MORBS SEZ: "had AK 32nd (btwn Ophuls and Griffith). best: Close-Up … Most of my favorite '90s films came from east Asia (Wong, Yang, Tsai) or Iran (Makhmalbaf, Kiarostami)."One of the most powerful endings in film history.― Frederik B, Sunday, August 19, 2018 11:32 AMwatching Close-Up made me realize just how unclear my understanding is of the differences between documentary, docudrama and docufiction― Dan S, Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:51 PMloved Close-up, but only after i thought about it. I hated watching it. in fact, considering Taste of Cherry and The Wind Will Carry Us as well, I am going to use that annoying complaint that his films are more fun to think about and talk about than actually watch. i dont ever want to see any of them again. but i probably will, because i fear i am missing something.― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, May 6, 2003 9:23 PMClose Up is one of the 10 best films ive seen in my life― Zeno, Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:09 PMI'll admit Close-Up left me completely cold, but seeing A Taste of Cherry has convinced me I need to try again.― flappy bird, Monday, April 30, 2018 12:33 PMI'm surprised that Close-Up is so high in greatest-ever lists, or that it's there at all. I can think of a few huckster/ruse films--I know admirers would hate that description, but that's essentially what it is--that treated the subject with a little more verve.― clemenza, Saturday, April 4, 2015 4:52 PMclose up is one of my all-time favorite movies, and imo pretty incredible as a gesture of forgiveness from one human being to another.― the late great, Sunday, April 5, 2015 9:11 PMMorbs thinks most americans would love to see Kiarostami movies if only we'd let them― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:33 PMAha, Close-up, mijn favoriete Kiarostami. Vergeet na afloop ook niet de grappige korte film Opening Night Of Close-Up van Nanni Moretti.― Vido Liber, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:30 AM
One of the most powerful endings in film history.― Frederik B, Sunday, August 19, 2018 11:32 AM
watching Close-Up made me realize just how unclear my understanding is of the differences between documentary, docudrama and docufiction― Dan S, Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:51 PM
loved Close-up, but only after i thought about it. I hated watching it. in fact, considering Taste of Cherry and The Wind Will Carry Us as well, I am going to use that annoying complaint that his films are more fun to think about and talk about than actually watch. i dont ever want to see any of them again. but i probably will, because i fear i am missing something.― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, May 6, 2003 9:23 PM
Close Up is one of the 10 best films ive seen in my life― Zeno, Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:09 PM
I'll admit Close-Up left me completely cold, but seeing A Taste of Cherry has convinced me I need to try again.― flappy bird, Monday, April 30, 2018 12:33 PM
I'm surprised that Close-Up is so high in greatest-ever lists, or that it's there at all. I can think of a few huckster/ruse films--I know admirers would hate that description, but that's essentially what it is--that treated the subject with a little more verve.― clemenza, Saturday, April 4, 2015 4:52 PM
close up is one of my all-time favorite movies, and imo pretty incredible as a gesture of forgiveness from one human being to another.― the late great, Sunday, April 5, 2015 9:11 PM
Morbs thinks most americans would love to see Kiarostami movies if only we'd let them― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:33 PM
Aha, Close-up, mijn favoriete Kiarostami. Vergeet na afloop ook niet de grappige korte film Opening Night Of Close-Up van Nanni Moretti.― Vido Liber, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:30 AM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:50 (four years ago)
Taxi driver’s coming, right
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:50 (four years ago)
huh do people really truncate Blade Runner to Blade? lol never mind
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:51 (four years ago)
taxi driver (good), king of comedy (excellent), gangs of new york (yawn) and the aviator (meh)Absolutely OTM assessments there.
Definitely seems like a prospective Age of Innocence fan.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:51 (four years ago)
Xp ah I was right!
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:51 (four years ago)
May I personally insult anyone too lazy to write out full film titles? Because twice now I thought we were discussing Blade, the Wesley Snipes vampire flick.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:51 (four years ago)
xp re Bladehaha I think I only did it because some poster before me did
― Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:52 (four years ago)
thought we were all hip and stuff
Ha! Thank you, calzino!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:52 (four years ago)
I thought we were all doing a bit
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:53 (four years ago)
wait, that poster...
― Chicks and Ducks and Geese better scurry (Ste), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:54 (four years ago)
this is a great film
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:54 (four years ago)
not his best but up there
Ilx going normcore, for a xhange
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:54 (four years ago)
Didn't think of Close-Up when voting but I did vote for Where Is the Friend's House?, one of the best cinematic moral tales I've seen.
― Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:55 (four years ago)
some of us are always doing a bit
― have you considered that there are 1 shades of gray (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:56 (four years ago)
oh I have apparently also seen shutter Island (actually pretty good) and hugo (just about acceptable upmarket kiddie fare for teaching the little ones about george melies)
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:57 (four years ago)
Finally a good film
― ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:01 (four years ago)
I've seen ten Kiarostami films, and Close Up is well in the bottom half. Don't get what people see in it, I think the meta-cinematic observations are better in Through the Olive Trees or A Moment of Innocence for that matter.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:01 (four years ago)
you all are going to flip when a league of their own places
― have you considered that there are 1 shades of gray (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:02 (four years ago)
Frederick pointed us to this article in the Kiarostami repoll thread:
https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/1492-close-up-prison-and-escape
It helps explain some of the stranger and more confusing elements of the story.
"Upon learning about the case, Abbas Kiarostami has said, he quickly initiated efforts to make a film about it, even while events were still in motion and the impostor’s fate had yet to be decided. Setting aside preparations for another film, the director enlisted the participation of several of the principals, including the Ahankhahs and the real Mohsen Makhmalbaf. He also approached Sabzian and the court’s cleric judge, and gained permission to film the trial, during which, as it turned out, Kiarostami and his cameras were not neutral observers but active participants."
― Dan S, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:02 (four years ago)
I think the meta-cinematic observations are better in Through the Olive Trees or A Moment of Innocence for that matter.
Morbs def held A Moment of Innocence in even higher regard than Close-Up. Not me.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:09 (four years ago)
Anyway, even if I agreed, I'll take the worst Kiarostami movie in the top 20 than no Kiarostami at all.
is close-up sort of like F for fake? that's the vibe I'm getting based on the descriptions I've seen
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:10 (four years ago)
no one orders a steak au poivre
― devvvine, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:10 (four years ago)
Less horny.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:11 (four years ago)
A moment of innocence is the only other one I’ve seen, I’d have chosen it over close-up but prob mainly because I got to see it at the cinema tbh
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:12 (four years ago)
I've seen 5 Kiarostami's but not Close Up yet, might be time to fire up Grabit and see what else I can nab
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:23 (four years ago)
Another two Kiarostami films seen person here: the other one's Taste Of Cherry and the meta-cinema elements in that one felt extraneous? Would've been fine with it ending without them.
Anyway calling Close Up normcore is a hell of a stretch. Normies don't know who that even is.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:30 (four years ago)
I've seen 3 Kiarostamis but not this one. I like him and think he's interesting but have yet to be blown away by anything.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:30 (four years ago)
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12. THE THIRD MAN (Carol Reed, 1949, UK) [1,146 points; 15 votes; 4 first-place votes]S&S: 73 | TSPDT: 47 | BOXD: 164
MORBS SEZ: "47-52 is a helluva run, but T3M easy"Uh, so how brilliant is brilliant? Pretty damn brilliant.― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:42 AMThe Third Man was my favorite for a long time. Odd Man Out I didn't like much the first time I saw it but it has grown on me over the years. Voted The Fallen Idol.― Everything You POLL Is RONG (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, March 16, 2012 8:05 PMIve only seen it once but I thoght it was pretty bloody marvellous I must say. Some of the shots and framing especially... this one scene sticks in my mind where hes in a doorway and half his face is lit and this ... *expression* on his face. Wonderful.― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:48 AMLove Alida Valli in The Third Man.― clemenza, Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:32 AMThe Third Man is possibly my favourite movie.― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:50 PMthe insane repetitiveness of the score is really expressive. i love it!― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:13 PMThat's called a fuckin' "Dutch tilt" for a reason, ya know.― Tiny Fuckin Robot, Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:58 PMThere's all sorts of great movie love stuff in it, but taken as a whole it isn't all that special.― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:39 PMThird Man better than The Big Sleep or The Maltese Falcon = GTF you stupid tits― Death to False Meta (Noodle Vague), Friday, November 13, 2009 4:23 PMI sort of find the whole movie a little bit irritating. Tho I guess at least it's not boring, which I can't say for Reed's Odd Man Out.― You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:47 PMI'd like to thank Eric for making me regret not a whit our divorce.― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:57 PM
Uh, so how brilliant is brilliant? Pretty damn brilliant.― Ned Raggett (Ned), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 12:42 AM
The Third Man was my favorite for a long time. Odd Man Out I didn't like much the first time I saw it but it has grown on me over the years. Voted The Fallen Idol.― Everything You POLL Is RONG (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, March 16, 2012 8:05 PM
Ive only seen it once but I thoght it was pretty bloody marvellous I must say. Some of the shots and framing especially... this one scene sticks in my mind where hes in a doorway and half his face is lit and this ... *expression* on his face. Wonderful.― Trayce (trayce), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 6:48 AM
Love Alida Valli in The Third Man.― clemenza, Sunday, March 11, 2012 10:32 AM
The Third Man is possibly my favourite movie.― Inevitable stupid samba mix (chap), Sunday, March 11, 2012 3:50 PM
the insane repetitiveness of the score is really expressive. i love it!― I dunno. (amateurist), Sunday, July 20, 2014 9:13 PM
That's called a fuckin' "Dutch tilt" for a reason, ya know.― Tiny Fuckin Robot, Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:58 PM
There's all sorts of great movie love stuff in it, but taken as a whole it isn't all that special.― gabbneb (gabbneb), Wednesday, February 18, 2004 1:39 PM
Third Man better than The Big Sleep or The Maltese Falcon = GTF you stupid tits― Death to False Meta (Noodle Vague), Friday, November 13, 2009 4:23 PM
I sort of find the whole movie a little bit irritating. Tho I guess at least it's not boring, which I can't say for Reed's Odd Man Out.― You are exactly why people root for the apes (Eric H.), Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:47 PM
I'd like to thank Eric for making me regret not a whit our divorce.― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, July 20, 2014 5:57 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:31 (four years ago)
it's a very good film, but four first place votes seems a lot.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:33 (four years ago)
hell yeah it's noirvember
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:33 (four years ago)
Trevor Howard looks so fucking cool in that leather coat you could briefly believe that the Brits are the good nazis
― calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:35 (four years ago)
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink
That was a joke..
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:35 (four years ago)
Poll-specific quiz: which ILX Top 100 film's ending pays homage to another ILX Top 100 film's ending? (May be more than one right answer, I don't know.)
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:36 (four years ago)
Zither Jams 4 Dayz
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:36 (four years ago)
ah ok xyzz, sorry! Thought you just meant cuz it is his most well known film.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:37 (four years ago)
Apocalypse Now pays tribute to Mandy placing on the poll.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:37 (four years ago)
the third man is enjoyable but i never think about it
― plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:42 (four years ago)