ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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Is everyone who voted for these too shy to defend them against this wave of disdain?

of the ones that suck, i had apocalypse now, goodfellas, jurassic park in my top 25. does empire strikes back suck? that one too. i also had the big lebowski in my honorable mentions, and blade runner. does blade runner suck?

i already defended them, but since there was no way to defend the cinematic value of apocalypse now (it has absolutely zero), i was forced to make an indirect defense in which i attacked the whole act of caring about this in the first place. the last resort of a big fucking loser, in other words.

i don't know, most of the reason people don't vote in polls is because they're normcore and they don't want to deal with people whining about how their picks degraded the whole ballot and made it boring. but that's just what the world is, and since my life is now a linkin park lyric i just voted anyway

Well, to be clear, the reason these movies are so high is because they DID vote in polls, regardless of the brickabats.

Also, everyone, bear in mind these are the Morbsies, so direct personal insults are required.

Goodfellas is too low.

karl otm, the fuck is wrong with Blade? you weirdos

The only good marvel movie

Thanks Karl.

Also, everyone, bear in mind these are the Morbsies, so direct personal insults are required.

lol, this is very otm :)

i don't know, most of the reason people don't vote in polls is because they're normcore and they don't want to deal with people whining about how their picks degraded the whole ballot and made it boring. but that's just what the world is, and since my life is now a linkin park lyric i just voted anyway

― have you considered that there are 1 shades of gray (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

Eric do you want fire up the list so far for Karl?

but really, i don't feel knowledgable enough about film history to defend those movies. to me they're like Rumours or 1999 - yes everyone knows them but they still fucking rule even though Morton Subotnick was more of a visionary

I remember back in the late 90's walking past the Parker Road council estate + this scary looking guy with bloodshot eyes (who I'd never spoken to before) in a shell tracksuit who looked like he was on speed + stank of pure B.O. come up to me aggressively grabbing my shoulder and said: "Hey mate I've just watched Blade and it's proper fucking good man I'm telling you.." he was following me for 5 minutes and I genuinely thought he was going pull a blade out on me for not reciprocating with any Blade chat.

Goodfellas is a popcorn classic.

apologies for triggering any bad recalls there calz

for those that like that sort of thing, that is the sort of thing they like

i've never seen blade

Blade Runner is great and was on my long list. Like Alien (the other Ridley Scott I voted for) it presents a fully conceived dystopian world and thinks at least somewhat seriously about how it works — economically, culturally, technologically. Cast is good, the plot gets a little murky, but overall just a great cinematic experience imo.

This is the part of the thread where the back half of "Layla" revs up on the soundtrack.

lol

i went to film school with insufferable people who wanted to be scorsese so it took some cajoling for me to see taxi driver (good), king of comedy (excellent), gangs of new york (yawn) and the aviator (meh) and think I may have slept through the color of money, haven't seen any others, guess I will see this one now

taxi driver (good), king of comedy (excellent), gangs of new york (yawn) and the aviator (meh)

Absolutely OTM assessments there.

fwiw, I just bought a paperback copy of Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? at a charity bookshop last week and on its cover it's been prominently re-titled as Blade Runner with the original title all faded out and unnoticeable. At least they still listed the author as P.K. Dick, not Ridely Scott.

Mean Streets and Casino are very good too.

i think i'd rather watch Silence than most of his others at any given moment now

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/013-close-up.jpg

13. CLOSE-UP (Abbas Kiarostami, 1990, Iran) [1,143.75 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 39 | TSPDT: 81 | BOXD: 49

MORBS SEZ: "had AK 32nd (btwn Ophuls and Griffith). best: Close-Up … Most of my favorite '90s films came from east Asia (Wong, Yang, Tsai) or Iran (Makhmalbaf, Kiarostami)."

One of the most powerful endings in film history.
― Frederik B, Sunday, August 19, 2018 11:32 AM

watching Close-Up made me realize just how unclear my understanding is of the differences between documentary, docudrama and docufiction
― Dan S, Sunday, August 19, 2018 12:51 PM

loved Close-up, but only after i thought about it. I hated watching it. in fact, considering Taste of Cherry and The Wind Will Carry Us as well, I am going to use that annoying complaint that his films are more fun to think about and talk about than actually watch. i dont ever want to see any of them again. but i probably will, because i fear i am missing something.
― ryan (ryan), Tuesday, May 6, 2003 9:23 PM

Close Up is one of the 10 best films ive seen in my life
― Zeno, Tuesday, June 2, 2009 8:09 PM

I'll admit Close-Up left me completely cold, but seeing A Taste of Cherry has convinced me I need to try again.
― flappy bird, Monday, April 30, 2018 12:33 PM

I'm surprised that Close-Up is so high in greatest-ever lists, or that it's there at all. I can think of a few huckster/ruse films--I know admirers would hate that description, but that's essentially what it is--that treated the subject with a little more verve.
― clemenza, Saturday, April 4, 2015 4:52 PM

close up is one of my all-time favorite movies, and imo pretty incredible as a gesture of forgiveness from one human being to another.
― the late great, Sunday, April 5, 2015 9:11 PM

Morbs thinks most americans would love to see Kiarostami movies if only we'd let them
― Matt Armstrong, Saturday, October 6, 2012 11:33 PM

Aha, Close-up, mijn favoriete Kiarostami. Vergeet na afloop ook niet de grappige korte film Opening Night Of Close-Up van Nanni Moretti.
― Vido Liber, Tuesday, June 10, 2008 6:30 AM

Taxi driver’s coming, right

huh do people really truncate Blade Runner to Blade? lol never mind

taxi driver (good), king of comedy (excellent), gangs of new york (yawn) and the aviator (meh)

Absolutely OTM assessments there.

Definitely seems like a prospective Age of Innocence fan.

Xp ah I was right!

May I personally insult anyone too lazy to write out full film titles? Because twice now I thought we were discussing Blade, the Wesley Snipes vampire flick.

xp re Blade
haha I think I only did it because some poster before me did

thought we were all hip and stuff

Ha! Thank you, calzino!

I thought we were all doing a bit

wait, that poster...

this is a great film

not his best but up there

Ilx going normcore, for a xhange

Didn't think of Close-Up when voting but I did vote for Where Is the Friend's House?, one of the best cinematic moral tales I've seen.

I thought we were all doing a bit

some of us are always doing a bit

oh I have apparently also seen shutter Island (actually pretty good) and hugo (just about acceptable upmarket kiddie fare for teaching the little ones about george melies)

Finally a good film

I've seen ten Kiarostami films, and Close Up is well in the bottom half. Don't get what people see in it, I think the meta-cinematic observations are better in Through the Olive Trees or A Moment of Innocence for that matter.

you all are going to flip when a league of their own places

Frederick pointed us to this article in the Kiarostami repoll thread:

https://www.criterion.com/current/posts/1492-close-up-prison-and-escape

It helps explain some of the stranger and more confusing elements of the story.

"Upon learning about the case, Abbas Kiarostami has said, he quickly initiated efforts to make a film about it, even while events were still in motion and the impostor’s fate had yet to be decided. Setting aside preparations for another film, the director enlisted the participation of several of the principals, including the Ahankhahs and the real Mohsen Makhmalbaf. He also approached Sabzian and the court’s cleric judge, and gained permission to film the trial, during which, as it turned out, Kiarostami and his cameras were not neutral observers but active participants."

I think the meta-cinematic observations are better in Through the Olive Trees or A Moment of Innocence for that matter.

Morbs def held A Moment of Innocence in even higher regard than Close-Up. Not me.

Anyway, even if I agreed, I'll take the worst Kiarostami movie in the top 20 than no Kiarostami at all.

is close-up sort of like F for fake? that's the vibe I'm getting based on the descriptions I've seen

no one orders a steak au poivre

Less horny.