"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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David Attenborough is a Malthusian, with all that that entails, so absolutely no. https://t.co/GH443piaXe

— Tom Gann (@Tom_Gann) December 3, 2018

just for you GG. Two of your fave posters!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:08 (four years ago)

'overpopulation' always a massive red flag, nu malthusianism is simply prepping for the acceptability of 'lookit, the famine is tragic, but'

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:14 (four years ago)

i read a pretty convincing article a year or so ago that said if you solve the top 5 women’s rights issues globally the climate issues all become much more manageable, can’t find it now tho

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:31 (four years ago)

I'm probably bad, but I thought Brighton Rock was not good and didn't find him sinister at all. Maybe a re-watch might change my mind. My fave insane ventriloquist is the one in Dead of Night and that's that!

― calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:49 (thirty-eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Yeah worth a rewatch I'd say. One of those films with a lot of twee 1940s period trappings but with an undercurrent of viciousness below the surface, which kind of fits with the themes of the original novel.

"Spaghetti" Thompson (Pheeel), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:36 (four years ago)

"Seance on a Wet Afternoon" is another good Dickie performance.

Des Weerelds Dool-om-berg ont-doold op Dool-in-bergh (Tom D.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 18:48 (four years ago)

Owen Paterson has told Sky News said he "wouldn't hesitate" to act in the same manner again tomorrow he was heavily criticised for by a standards body

The former minister said he would "absolutely" do anything he was reprimanded by the Committee on Standards' report once more

— Sam Coates Sky (@SamCoatesSky) November 3, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:00 (four years ago)

i think if david attenborough can criticize the unsustainable lifestyles of the global population, i think it is fair in turn to point out that very few in this world have a lifestyle as unsustainable as his.

plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:26 (four years ago)

i think

plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:26 (four years ago)

I think if he really cared he'd lead by example by volunteering to be euthanized and his physical remains processed into some green cattle feed that would save farmers buying a few pounds of soya pellets from deforested zones in Brazil #COP26 - save the rainforest one square millimetre a day lads!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 20:52 (four years ago)

Always think of Richard Attenborough as the UK's answer to Peter Lorre.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:23 (four years ago)

that's charles laughton

plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:44 (four years ago)

Back to DA, he's doing less travel anyway now than in his old documentaries on account of being 95. I suspect that, come the day he pops his clogs and everyone's sad except Calz and the mysterious Mr Gann, they won't replace him with anyone directly as, like John Peel, he's kinda irreplaceable. That would be a good opportunity to do some good EDI stuff and get some local teams of indigenous peoples presenting in the various countries but this is the BBC so they'll probably stuff it up.

― Grandpont Genie, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

It's not your post so much as that I was just reading this long read on Saville talking about the reverence shown, how entertainment builds up and places certain on a pedestal where even the whiff of mild criticism is pounced on, and how -- as it's shown here and in many other examples -- leaves a trail of victims or unquestioned worth of what it is they've made.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2021/nov/02/jimmy-savile-bbc-journalists-risked-jobs-reveal-truth

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 21:54 (four years ago)

In the current climate it's the poor that gets most attacked for having most children and are seen as recklessly consuming. There are enough dark mutterings from Tories on this and social murder caused by austerity and of covid as a blessing that reduced the numbers of elderly and the pension 'burden'.

It may not be referred as Malthusian but there are plenty who want to see a reduction in population. It's a thing in politics!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:01 (four years ago)

i've heard that people's name can continue to index ideas with an enduring significance, sometimes for a long period after their death

plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:04 (four years ago)

It only get used by mysterious people on apps such as twitter dot com. Who cares about them when compared to the grandfather of the nation, Sir David Attenborough!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:06 (four years ago)

I wonder if he regularly commands his servants to nosh on his ancient ballsack like Prince Charles does!

calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:18 (four years ago)

I thought people had come to terms with John Peel being a thoroughly rotten person and a [redacted]. But hey that was cracking session from Bastard Kestrel in 1989, you don't get that kind of thing on evening radio these days.

calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:24 (four years ago)

yeah i think john peel is weinsteined rip

plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:34 (four years ago)

I honestly don't think many people know or care about that - you could get a million signatures for a statue of him tomorrow.

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 22:49 (four years ago)

probably correct, a multi-generational groomer through having a vinyl record industrial complex and reached into the Tory heartlands with dire stuff like Home Truths and Grunpy OLd Men ... yah national treasure status achieved

calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 23:29 (four years ago)

Lolz

Breaking: Owen Paterson resigns as MP for North Shropshire.

— Alan McGuinness (@Alan_McGuinness) November 4, 2021

groovypanda, Thursday, 4 November 2021 14:41 (four years ago)

"I will remain a public servant but outside the cruel world of politics."

loool! what a fucking bag of wind

calzino, Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:00 (four years ago)

charitably that's "public" as used in "public school"

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:03 (four years ago)

when your grift is earning you considerably more than your 80k MP salary, then that is god's way of telling you it's time to leave the cruel world of politics.

calzino, Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:09 (four years ago)

the brass fuckin' balls of this guy

Critique of the Goth Programme (Neil S), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:21 (four years ago)

Toryballs

Des Weerelds Dool-om-berg ont-doold op Dool-in-bergh (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:21 (four years ago)

When Boris Johnson is leading your party it's hardly surprising the cunts expect to get away with any and everything.

Des Weerelds Dool-om-berg ont-doold op Dool-in-bergh (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:23 (four years ago)

The Daily Mail went full tilt on this story today I expect that helped change their minds

Des Weerelds Dool-om-berg ont-doold op Dool-in-bergh (Tom D.), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:24 (four years ago)

Maybe Johnson cut him a deal and this is the price

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:39 (four years ago)

Boris Johnson's spokesman now says there will be another vote on whether to suspend Owen Paterson "as soon as possible" with MPs also given a free vote on keeping the current Standards regime.

Total retreat.

— Adam Bienkov (@AdamBienkov) November 4, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:48 (four years ago)

Worst of all was seeing people, including MPs, publicly mock and deride Rose’s death and belittle our pain. My children have therefore asked me to leave politics altogether, for my sake as well as theirs.

I agree with them. I do not want my wife’s memory and reputation to become a political football.

No-one else mentioned it you twat

witherspoons (Matt #2), Thursday, 4 November 2021 15:51 (four years ago)

I can believe his kids said "leave politics", all together.

Mark G, Thursday, 4 November 2021 17:04 (four years ago)

Has Your Personal Data Been Leaked?
Call us on **** *** ****

seriously thinking about this, honestly couldn't give a shit about the data breach but feeling a strong urge to contribute towards bankrupting the Labour party out of pure hatred.

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 11:47 (four years ago)

Same

plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 12:31 (four years ago)

If as they say it’s a third party who lost the data would labour still be liable?

siffleur’s mom (wins), Friday, 5 November 2021 13:42 (four years ago)

heard somewhere they have to keep yr info for five years if you donated to them?

Daniel_Rf, Friday, 5 November 2021 13:51 (four years ago)

Not what data protection law says AFAIK

"as long as is reasonable" is something like the wording - membership ceases and they don't have a case to keep it I think

it isn't even a Fraktion (Noodle Vague), Friday, 5 November 2021 14:44 (four years ago)

Thing is, there are lots of arguments to be made for what is ‘reasonable’. For example, Gift Aid can be claimed on donations for up to four years, so an organisation could argue that it’s a reasonable policy to retain details for four years in case someone comes back within that time and signs a Gift Aid declaration. There may well be a claim for damages based on how the party has handled peoples data, but I’d be surprised if there was much value in the ‘they should have deleted my data as soon as I left’ argument.

crisp, Friday, 5 November 2021 15:10 (four years ago)

i suspect that they were handing data over to third parties to do social media surveillance but obviously this is just speculation based on them being awful wankers

plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 15:16 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FDblhBzWUAEvNHu?format=jpg&name=900x900

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/person/image/4499/s465_lord-wolfson960.jpg

maybe I'm too much of a prudish catholic boy, but I don't even want to know what "family pornography" is nor ever want anyone to have to suffer the long term psychological damage from witnessing video images of this incredibly ugly looking man's naked arse bobbing up and down.

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 21:47 (four years ago)

It’s trash reporting.

Wolfson was raising a very basic point around the ambiguity of the wording of the law, as far as I can tell, and the ‘family pornography’ example he gave was a husband taking a photo of his wife in a bikini in a public space.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 5 November 2021 21:58 (four years ago)

"for his own sexual gratification"

plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 21:59 (four years ago)

the wording of law is always such a complex minefield but perhaps he should used something a bit less problematic sounding than "family pornography" because that was always going to be the headline.

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 22:31 (four years ago)

He didn’t say it, tbf, it was the interpretation of the Times diarist, not a quote.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 5 November 2021 22:43 (four years ago)

ah, a bit of journalistic mischief!

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 22:53 (four years ago)

hey SV can I pick your legal brain on the chances of individual or group actions against the Labour Party data breach doing some serious damage?

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 23:08 (four years ago)

His actual words were bizarre and unsettling (I watched the clip) already

plax (ico), Friday, 5 November 2021 23:10 (four years ago)

as if we haven't already had enough David Lynch in the last couple of days. joek obv - not Lynch mobbing!

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 23:19 (four years ago)

tbh, I don’t know much about data breaches at all. I’d guess a lot would depend on whether the data they were holding was legitimately kept and the efforts they took to keep it safe.

His actual words were bizarre and unsettling (I watched the clip) already

The point he was raising was fairly important imo, albeit it in a law exam ‘scenario unlikely to happen’ way.

A couple of the other Lords, Paddick in particular, clearly thought he was being difficult for the sake of it, though, and perhaps he was.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 5 November 2021 23:30 (four years ago)

once my mum was breastfeeding on a bus in the 80's and some weird septuagenarian posh perv followed her off the bus to complement her on what a great mother she was. And she abruptly ended the exchange with "how would you know?". I guess the new version of this is "could you possibly give me consent take a pic of your lactating tits" or mayne not

calzino, Friday, 5 November 2021 23:40 (four years ago)


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