ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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that sounds like Avatar

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

Wait did jaws appear on todays countdown or are we talking about it just because

siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

This thread has reached the size where zing starts randomly disappearing posts instead of showing you the last 50 or whatever so I keep missing when films show up

siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link

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19. CITIZEN KANE (Orson Welles, 1941, USA) [1,050.32 points; 19 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 2 | TSPDT: 1 | BOXD: 160

MORBS SEZ: "it's kind of impossible for me to think of it as anything but Welles' best both as entertainment and unsullied, unfucked-with tour de force. I see a certain greatness in Lady from Shanghai, Touch of Evil and especially Othello, but only prefer them to CK in fleeting moments … It's great no matter how much people want to rearrange the canonical furniture."

Not that this is a surprise, but o' course I lurv it, though I had the ending ruined when I was small thanks to all the references to it in _Peanuts_, Charles Schulz being another fanatic. And like Schulz's work, CK impresses me over time because it works on different levels, different lines jump out at you over the moons. The acting is brilliant, the script isn't afraid of humor, the cinematography, the lighting...astonishing.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:00 PM

I still haven't gone back to finish this, and I'm not usually put off by hype about the 'classics'. Just feel no compunction to go through with the rest of it on what I've seen so far (Young dude gets old and crusty at a dinner table montage)
― Black IP's (darraghmac), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:07 AM

This film actually lives up to its reputation!
― Tape Store, Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:36 AM

this film has a lot more going on than most top-ten all-time classic snoozefests.
― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:29 PM

just watch citizen kane, it really is awesome, you will love it, the end.
― s1ocki, Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:57 PM

The Ambersons Welles made might have been better than Kane, but the one that survives? No way. (I think I like The Lady from Shanghai and Othello better than either.)
― Dr Morbius, Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:11 PM

Madness! I saw [Lady from Shanghai] again recently and it gets my vote as his worst: mannered, coy.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, December 15, 2007

look who's talking!
― s1ocki, Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:04 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link

This thread has reached the size where zing starts randomly disappearing posts instead of showing you the last 50 or whatever so I keep missing when films show up

Yeah, this thread's moving way too fast for me today to do anything more than just drop slots 11-20.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

This film actually lives up to its reputation!

― Tape Store, Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:36 AM

yeah it kinda rly does. vegetables, but really tasty, well-seasoned and grilled

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link

It's really fucking entertaining.

My students didn't like it much last month until Kane got shouty at Boss Gettis.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link

and my god the three-shots and tracking shot and deep focus in the Charlie-Thatcher-Mrs.Kane sequence.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

I went from a young, arrogant "eh, what's the fuss" stance to admiring its formal qualities after having seen so many films of that era that I could really notice the difference to now actually finding it emotionally resonant as well.

If Morbz was still with us I would ask him why Touch Of Evil is shallow but Lady From Shanghai is better than CK and MA.

xpost Welles is never veggies c'mon

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

Now this is the good shit - Vertigo next, please

Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

really, really, really tasty veggies. battered courgette flowers

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:30 (two years ago) link

apologies for the jaws derail.

usually-unmentioned aspect to Citzen Kane which always grabs me: the sound design & editing. the bit where he takes her for the "picnic" on the beach, "you never get me what I really want" - just stunning.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link

Welles is ice cream and hot dogs and bitchy lunches with Henry Jaglom.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

nah you're right welles is 5-course

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

Anyone saying: "too low"?

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link

If Morbz was still with us I would ask him why Touch Of Evil is shallow but Lady From Shanghai is better than CK and MA.

iirc, he answered "mirrors"

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link

19 is about right.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

Yo check out what's on Susan's dresser at the left!
https://www.yourprops.com/movieprops/default/yp_4f17981fc06f69.69985462/Citizen-Kane-Susan-Alexander-s-Snowglobe-4.jpg

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

always remember that 80's news clip with anchor going "Death came to Orson Welles today as it must to all men...".

getting quoted in the announcement of your own death is king shit

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:38 (two years ago) link

Kane: #1 '40s film in that poll

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:39 (two years ago) link

I like the ridiculously huge hall in Xanadu

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

Welles may be the most entertainingly erudite American filmmaker who ever lived. To read an interview is to see allusions to Conrad and Velazquez, this sculptor he was chums with and that poet he befriended. I try to find the bullshit and can't. The guy read everything.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:43 (two years ago) link

As much as Iggy Pop?

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

Anyone saying: "too low"?

Only if Casablanca beats it.

Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:48 (two years ago) link

likely would have been top 5 on my ballot, im happy its at least in the top 20.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link

I was never under the impression that ILX was all that big on Casablanca, but I could be wrong. Only 19/60 ballots had Kane on it, so anything's possible.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:53 (two years ago) link

i liked LS's Strangelove description about pinballs

nxd, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

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18. THE APARTMENT (Billy Wilder, 1960, USA) [1,064.07 points; 14 votes]
S&S: 86 | TSPDT: 59 | BOXD: 63

MORBS SEZ: "that shot is kind of stolen from the ol' silent The Crowd"

i think it might be my favorite movie.
― ethan, Thursday, December 6, 2001 7:00 PM

Assorted new items on task list for the rest of 2014: tapping hesitant dogs, taking the hat off in crowded elevators, buying sock stretchers, trying to recreate a Martini petal.
― the european nikon is here (grauschleier), Monday, December 8, 2014 7:20 PM

The Apartment is a damn near perfect movie. Even the unlikely ending is unexpectedly touching. "That's the way it crumbles, cookie-wise..."
It's easy to say "They don't make 'em like that anymore," but they didn't often make 'em like that even back then.
― Justyn Dillingham, Thursday, December 6, 2001 7:00 PM

Good movie. Shirl = rowr. Unlikely ending: IRL she wd stick as best fwends and break his feckin heart as she twirled thru endless rubbish boyfs (21st-century update: girlfs), before she suddenly lost her looks'n'figure WACK at 41.
― mark s, Thursday, December 6, 2001 7:00 PM

the best soul-price in movie history may be 'the executive washroom'
― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, January 1, 2014 11:54 PM

I don't remember it super-well but I think I'd still like Annie Hall more.
― sund4r subramanian, Thursday, December 6, 2001 7:00 PM

Classic example of director who made three or four indelible things, burn the rest.
― morning wood truancy (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, January 19, 2018 8:48 AM

The "wildly overrated" designation, but with Double Indemnity, Sunset Boulevard, The Seven Year itch, Some Like It Hot and The Apartment in his filmography: I suspect Wilder could probably live with that.
― If Timi Yuro would be still alive, most other singers could shut up, Tuesday, December 9, 2008 3:43 AM

I had never seen this. Wow. I used to watch 'My Three Sons' on Nick-at-Nite; Fred MacMurray is a cold motherfucker.
― poortheatre (poortheatre), Sunday, July 16, 2006 11:33 PM

As someone pointed out in the comments, The Apartment opened in the same week as Psycho, and it beat it to the Best Picture Oscar.
― Foster Twelvetrees (Ward Fowler), Thursday, June 30, 2016 2:37 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

The Apartment opened in the same week as Psycho, and it beat it to the Best Picture Oscar.

And in this poll.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:00 (two years ago) link

Not on Farrell's list...

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:02 (two years ago) link

Oh, and apologies for not giving Strangelove and Kane their fullest due...

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/020-dr-strangelove.jpg

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/019-citizen-kane-1.jpg

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

yeah this is good of course, suspect the ending is not as upbeat as claimed in the comments above, it's just that the film ends at the happiest moment in their story, bear in mind what the doctor says to him, sorry if that's too bleak.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:09 (two years ago) link

that mark s comment is a real trip huh

devvvine, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

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17. THE BIG LEBOWSKI (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1998, USA) [1,095.83 points; 18 votes; 1 first-place vote]
S&S: 200 | TSPDT: 212 | BOXD: DNP

Lebowski backlash in full effect I'd imagine
― Number None, Monday, May 15, 2017 9:43 AM

MORBS SEZ: "is there a reason why Turturro doing a cartoonish Latino accent would not be considered contemptible minstrelsy in the current culture? or do i not know all the rules? … Even less funny than I remembered, has its strange charms though. I am wondering if Goodman's Walter was meant as a cartoony rip of David Mamet -- similar beard, crazed Zionist etc … in a nutshell: The Big Sleep is funnier."

oh great, I'm going to be hearing every Morbius post in Stewie Grifin's voice from here on out
― THIS TRADE SERVES ZERO FOOTBALL PURPOSE (DJP), Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:22 PM

hey y'all if i get to dr morbius age and i'm posting like that someone take me out back and shoot me
― the late great, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 12:50 PM

I did enjoy Lebowski, despite not being a stoner. Go figure.
― Aimless, Tuesday, March 3, 2015 7:57 PM

Lebowski is awful.
― milo z, Tuesday, April 3, 2007 7:28 PM

borderline unwatchable bc of cultural saturation and worn out jokes & wayyyyyy too long.
― flappy bird, Monday, June 5, 2017 7:14 PM

I've seen Lebowski a bunch of times and it has its moments, but I never understood the immense praise it receives.
― Unheimlich Manouevre (dog latin), Wednesday, March 4, 2015 4:03 AM

the cultural phenomenon surrounding lebowski is irritating if you pay attention, but the movie itself is wonderful.
― tylerw, Wednesday, March 4, 2015 10:22 AM

I think the coens hit their peaks when they get to tell shaggy dog stories
― iatee, Monday, May 15, 2017 12:41 PM

*skateboards into thread*
Sorry brahs, but if you hate Lebowski, you basically hate fun. HANG LOOSE!
*skateboards off into sunset*
― walid foster dulles (man alive), Wednesday, March 4, 2015 8:43 AM

Lebowski ran away with that old poll. I suppose the cult has lowered its status in the meantime.
― duped and used by my worst Miss U (President Keyes), Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:10 AM

From the comments itt, they've aged into A Serious Man.
― insidious assymetrical weapons (Eric H.), Tuesday, May 16, 2017 8:14 AM

www.louisville.edu/a-s/cchs/lebowski/index.html
― Pete W (peterw), Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:43 AM

fucking plagiarists!!!!!
― Bashment Jakes (Enrique), Thursday, August 10, 2006 3:44 AM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

is this one the fake out?

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:38 (two years ago) link

rewatched this a few years ago and was surprised at how much I still enjoyed it, especially compared to fargo. not one of the best 20 films of all time though.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

i love the big lebowski

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:41 (two years ago) link

lemmon cheerfully opening maclaine’s compact and seeing himself in the cracked glass is like a payoff on page 500 of a henry james

difficult listening hour, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:42 (two years ago) link

I've steadfastly refused to let the cult ruin Big Lebowski for me.

Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

Was just thinking the other day about how they switched the post-WWII hangover that looms in noir for the comically lopsided first Gulf War.

Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:49 (two years ago) link

if this is a fakeout it's had the effect of making everyone too depressed to respond

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

lemmon cheerfully opening maclaine’s compact and seeing himself in the cracked glass is like a payoff on page 500 of a henry james

― difficult listening hour, Wednesday, November 3, 2021

The Golden Duh

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:53 (two years ago) link

xpost Eric de facto yelled at us for posting too much so...

Kevin John Bozelka, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

I don't do fakeouts.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

im a big coen apologist but ive never been able to get on board with lebowski, has always felt like a lazy collection of sketches strung together. plus turturro is just excruciating.

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

Nice marmot, ILX

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

But I DO do passive-aggressive non-images on occasion.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link

apart from that Star Wars fakeout that you let run on for a week ... lol that was a classic

calzino, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:57 (two years ago) link

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.) at 5:55 3 Nov 21
I don't do fakeouts.
sounds suspiciously like what a fakeout-doer would say

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link


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