there are plenty Marvel movies better than Empire Strikes Back and Jurassic Park
No.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
yeah that was insane, albeit i'll make an exception for spider-verse
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link
Strangelove: the #1 '60s movie in that old poll
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link
Thor: Ragnarok is better than Jurassic Park, scenery-chewing Jeff Goldblum >>> smug Jeff Goldblum
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
love the moment where the russian ambassador can’t help but commit a lil espionage even after his motherland has been blown to hell
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
George C. Scott is the real MVP.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
xp Again, no
― Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
there was a tweet earlier this year that said something like “scott’s performance in dr. strangelove has big tim robinson energy”
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink
I don't see why not. Star Wars is hardly better than Marvel. That generation just needs to grow up and make the same mistakes.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
I don't really get Alfred's criticism of Strangelove. The humor isn't esoteric but it's also not ham-fisted. So much of what makes it a great comedy is just in the performances, these ridiculous characters bouncing off each other toward their doom like pinballs
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
tbf I haven't seen it in quite a few years but that's how i remember it
watched lots of "classic" family / famous mainstream films in the last couple of years with my kids and wife (who loves European/ art cinema but has never seen most of these) and the two which bombed with everyone were ET and Jaws.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
― Lavator Shemmelpennick,
The War Room conversations b/w the two leaders reeeaallly drag.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
the two which bombed with everyone were ET and Jaws.
uh oh those are two of the ones i'm most excited to show my kids! care to extrapolate on why they didn't translate?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
I think they both rely on a kind of Hollywood Magic™ which means nothing to them, to be honest it was difficult for me to see what I had liked about either film while I was watching with them, you know how it is.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
ET is kinda bad-creepy and Jaws is dull?
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
o my gawd theyre on a boat and theyre trying to kill a FISH
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
and there is BAD MAYOR
As a group we and my cousin's grade school kids watched Jaws on AMC a few years ago and it terrified them.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
yeah, maybe both films are just not that good? this year I've also realised that I have absolutely zero interest in fight/battle/action sequences of any sort except the most cartoonish Stephen Chow stuff, good to know I suppose, kids are still into it though.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 10:54 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
come in, you can reductively describe any film this way
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
come *on
haha sorry, but it really did mostly bore me
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
Jaws gets better every time i watch it tbh, although every time i look forward more & more to when they get on the boat and it just becomes a loosey-goosey hangout movie
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
I dunno I find Jaws still resonates pretty strongly politically and culturally plus it's entertaining as hell xp
― ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
again, a.i. >>>>>>>>>>
i love jaws though, saw it for the first time in a theater about six years ago and found it so gripping
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
The humor in this film is like GEDDIT GEDDIT GEDDIT *digs elbows into ribs*
cant argue w/this but its a feature not a bug in this case imo. definitely fun to watch in a post-Tim Robinson world and see George C Scott inventing that whole deal in it
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
sorry to morbs for another film thread turning into ppl debating the merits of jaws
xps to CaAL, makes sense i guess. I still think of E.T. and Close Encounters as exceptional, if not singular, depictions of a very familiar messy day-to-day suburban life - both in terms of the sets and the way the family members interact with each other. There is something in that, and the supernatural plots overlaid onto it, that I think of as the quintessential Spielberg signature that I so connected with as a kid. But I can see where both pieces of that equation are dated in different ways. We shall see...
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
"A lonely shark comes to terms with his isolation and anxieties during a long summer vacation."
― willem, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
i first saw jaws when i was six and cried at the end because i was sad they blew up the shark
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
the humor in this film is like GEDDIT GEDDIT GEDDIT *digs elbows into ribs*
Mary Ellen Moffat? The crushed styrofoam cup? Chief Brody suddenly telling his son to get out of the water? A++ humour!
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 11:54 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 11:54 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is where the thread jumped the shark.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
I'm with Alfred, Strangelove is pretty lame. Doesn't help that I've seldom found Sellers funny.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
Jaws II imo
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
I don't find it lame, it's not a film I want to watch often.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link
yeah a lot of the feedback was "why don't they leave the poor shark alone? they can just go to another beach"
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:18 (two years ago) link
a: bad mayor
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
would like to see a film about a group of sharks taking down a finning boat
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link
HULLS
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
that sounds like Avatar
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
Wait did jaws appear on todays countdown or are we talking about it just because
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
This thread has reached the size where zing starts randomly disappearing posts instead of showing you the last 50 or whatever so I keep missing when films show up
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
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19. CITIZEN KANE (Orson Welles, 1941, USA) [1,050.32 points; 19 votes; Morbs silver]S&S: 2 | TSPDT: 1 | BOXD: 160
MORBS SEZ: "it's kind of impossible for me to think of it as anything but Welles' best both as entertainment and unsullied, unfucked-with tour de force. I see a certain greatness in Lady from Shanghai, Touch of Evil and especially Othello, but only prefer them to CK in fleeting moments … It's great no matter how much people want to rearrange the canonical furniture."Not that this is a surprise, but o' course I lurv it, though I had the ending ruined when I was small thanks to all the references to it in _Peanuts_, Charles Schulz being another fanatic. And like Schulz's work, CK impresses me over time because it works on different levels, different lines jump out at you over the moons. The acting is brilliant, the script isn't afraid of humor, the cinematography, the lighting...astonishing.― Ned Raggett, Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:00 PMI still haven't gone back to finish this, and I'm not usually put off by hype about the 'classics'. Just feel no compunction to go through with the rest of it on what I've seen so far (Young dude gets old and crusty at a dinner table montage)― Black IP's (darraghmac), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:07 AMThis film actually lives up to its reputation!― Tape Store, Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:36 AMthis film has a lot more going on than most top-ten all-time classic snoozefests.― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:29 PMjust watch citizen kane, it really is awesome, you will love it, the end.― s1ocki, Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:57 PMThe Ambersons Welles made might have been better than Kane, but the one that survives? No way. (I think I like The Lady from Shanghai and Othello better than either.)― Dr Morbius, Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:11 PMMadness! I saw [Lady from Shanghai] again recently and it gets my vote as his worst: mannered, coy.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, December 15, 2007look who's talking!― s1ocki, Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:04 PM
Not that this is a surprise, but o' course I lurv it, though I had the ending ruined when I was small thanks to all the references to it in _Peanuts_, Charles Schulz being another fanatic. And like Schulz's work, CK impresses me over time because it works on different levels, different lines jump out at you over the moons. The acting is brilliant, the script isn't afraid of humor, the cinematography, the lighting...astonishing.― Ned Raggett, Thursday, September 27, 2001 7:00 PM
I still haven't gone back to finish this, and I'm not usually put off by hype about the 'classics'. Just feel no compunction to go through with the rest of it on what I've seen so far (Young dude gets old and crusty at a dinner table montage)― Black IP's (darraghmac), Wednesday, May 12, 2010 10:07 AM
This film actually lives up to its reputation!― Tape Store, Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:36 AM
this film has a lot more going on than most top-ten all-time classic snoozefests.― That one guy that hit it and quit it, Saturday, December 15, 2007 12:29 PM
just watch citizen kane, it really is awesome, you will love it, the end.― s1ocki, Saturday, December 15, 2007 1:57 PM
The Ambersons Welles made might have been better than Kane, but the one that survives? No way. (I think I like The Lady from Shanghai and Othello better than either.)― Dr Morbius, Saturday, December 15, 2007 4:11 PM
Madness! I saw [Lady from Shanghai] again recently and it gets my vote as his worst: mannered, coy.― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Saturday, December 15, 2007
look who's talking!― s1ocki, Saturday, December 15, 2007 8:04 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:23 (two years ago) link
Yeah, this thread's moving way too fast for me today to do anything more than just drop slots 11-20.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link
This film actually lives up to its reputation!
― Tape Store, Sunday, December 16, 2007 1:36 AM
yeah it kinda rly does. vegetables, but really tasty, well-seasoned and grilled
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
It's really fucking entertaining.
My students didn't like it much last month until Kane got shouty at Boss Gettis.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:27 (two years ago) link
and my god the three-shots and tracking shot and deep focus in the Charlie-Thatcher-Mrs.Kane sequence.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
I went from a young, arrogant "eh, what's the fuss" stance to admiring its formal qualities after having seen so many films of that era that I could really notice the difference to now actually finding it emotionally resonant as well.
If Morbz was still with us I would ask him why Touch Of Evil is shallow but Lady From Shanghai is better than CK and MA.
xpost Welles is never veggies c'mon
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
Now this is the good shit - Vertigo next, please
― Andrew Farrell, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link