Dracula is a godfather too if you think about it.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link
Feel like I should clarify the 'vegetables are good' comment: Back when I was getting my feet wet with this stuff, I treated myself to a summer long "History of Film" class taught by a local newspaper critic who used that term to describe certain classics (specifically Battleship Potemkin) that he felt were important historically, but that modern audiences would have a hard time for whatever reason getting into. This has become shorthand for me, and in relation to Andrew's list, I used it referring to Potemkin and Man With A Movie Camera without being specific.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8XbT0QHYKAA
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
Ah ok there is a gap between that and Rome, Open City xp
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmbk17xIcRw
― Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:11 (two years ago) link
Of course different films are vegetables to different ppl as well. I know some silent cinema fiends who love Man With A Movie Camera quite w/o any whiff of homework about it (more difficult to imagine with Potemkin I'll admit)
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
I didn't vote in this because I thought it would be ALL French and Italian movies I hadn't seen, but given what's on the rollout I now feel like I would have been qualified. I may not know Antonioni but I know Jurassic Park placed too high.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link
Man with a Movie Camera is like my definitive "you think its vegetables but its just plain fun" movie tip for when silent-curious ppl have asked me for recommendations
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link
That was Close Up for me. Not a silent, but: expected enigmatic slow cinema social realism, got a fun and touching film about ppl and what happens when you start filming.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link
I saw a screening of Man with a Movie Camera a few years ago accompanied by an improvising jazz/funk group. Hard to imagine that with Potemkin.
― Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link
always feel like films which are essentially collages of images and sounds intended to generate feeling (antonioni, vertov, maybe even malick) are fundamentally easier watches than films where the plot is the important thing, so seems odd that most people have this all the other way round.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link
https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/11/20-dr-strangelove.jpg
20. DR. STRANGELOVE, OR: HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB (Stanley Kubrick, 1964, UK) [1,043.37 points; 19 votes; Morbs silver]S&S: 114 | TSPDT: 46 | BOXD: 124
MORBS SEZ: "That Pauline Kael questioned why the filmmakers didn't supply answers for fixing the endgame of mutually assured destruction just makes me shake my damn head … what would Strangelove need to have aged well, Sarah Palin jokes?"if we were ranking comic performances george c. scott in it would have been my #1.― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:33 AMstrangelove isn't all that funny― the people vs peer gynt (goole), Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:52 PMDr. Strangelove is a comedy, and "should I be laughing at this? what's wrong with me!?!" is exactly what it's about. I guess Kubrick should've done more comedies, perhaps his nihilism would've suited that genre better.― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:17 PMJust such a fantastic little comedic universe and a peerless cast to populate it. Even the music is funny― Number None, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:47 AMthe thing about this movie (and is weirdly similar to Idiocracy for me) is that there aren't a tonne of hard laughs like my other fav comedies. but you're just watching this things grinning, totally thrilled at how brilliant it is. even my crusty-movie hating friends loved this.― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:40 AMI'm almost certain that there's a book, or film or something which has the title: Dr. [something} or how i learned to stop [something} and [something} the [something}― Slump Man (Slump Man), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:22 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglinkIt's a stanley kubrick films starring peter sellars, one of the best films either of them ever made.― Ed (dali), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:26 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglinkOh I don't know...― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:27 PMTMC has Fail-Safe on and so far it's quite a bit more entertaining than Strangelove, although as pointed out by the presenter this would have been a rather improbable opinion to formulate, much less defend, in 1964.― El Tomboto, Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:05 PM
if we were ranking comic performances george c. scott in it would have been my #1.― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:33 AM
strangelove isn't all that funny― the people vs peer gynt (goole), Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:52 PM
Dr. Strangelove is a comedy, and "should I be laughing at this? what's wrong with me!?!" is exactly what it's about. I guess Kubrick should've done more comedies, perhaps his nihilism would've suited that genre better.― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:17 PM
Just such a fantastic little comedic universe and a peerless cast to populate it. Even the music is funny― Number None, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:47 AM
the thing about this movie (and is weirdly similar to Idiocracy for me) is that there aren't a tonne of hard laughs like my other fav comedies. but you're just watching this things grinning, totally thrilled at how brilliant it is. even my crusty-movie hating friends loved this.― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:40 AM
I'm almost certain that there's a book, or film or something which has the title: Dr. [something} or how i learned to stop [something} and [something} the [something}― Slump Man (Slump Man), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:22 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
It's a stanley kubrick films starring peter sellars, one of the best films either of them ever made.― Ed (dali), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:26 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Oh I don't know...― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:27 PM
TMC has Fail-Safe on and so far it's quite a bit more entertaining than Strangelove, although as pointed out by the presenter this would have been a rather improbable opinion to formulate, much less defend, in 1964.― El Tomboto, Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:05 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link
this isn't one of my favorite kubrick films. it's been a while tho
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link
The humor in this film is like GEDDIT GEDDIT GEDDIT *digs elbows into ribs*
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
gentlemen you can't POLL in here this is the POLL POLL
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
there are plenty Marvel movies better than Empire Strikes Back and Jurassic Park
No.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link
yeah that was insane, albeit i'll make an exception for spider-verse
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link
Strangelove: the #1 '60s movie in that old poll
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link
Thor: Ragnarok is better than Jurassic Park, scenery-chewing Jeff Goldblum >>> smug Jeff Goldblum
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
love the moment where the russian ambassador can’t help but commit a lil espionage even after his motherland has been blown to hell
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:31 (two years ago) link
George C. Scott is the real MVP.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:34 (two years ago) link
xp Again, no
― Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
there was a tweet earlier this year that said something like “scott’s performance in dr. strangelove has big tim robinson energy”
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink
I don't see why not. Star Wars is hardly better than Marvel. That generation just needs to grow up and make the same mistakes.
― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:36 (two years ago) link
I don't really get Alfred's criticism of Strangelove. The humor isn't esoteric but it's also not ham-fisted. So much of what makes it a great comedy is just in the performances, these ridiculous characters bouncing off each other toward their doom like pinballs
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:43 (two years ago) link
tbf I haven't seen it in quite a few years but that's how i remember it
watched lots of "classic" family / famous mainstream films in the last couple of years with my kids and wife (who loves European/ art cinema but has never seen most of these) and the two which bombed with everyone were ET and Jaws.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
― Lavator Shemmelpennick,
The War Room conversations b/w the two leaders reeeaallly drag.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
the two which bombed with everyone were ET and Jaws.
uh oh those are two of the ones i'm most excited to show my kids! care to extrapolate on why they didn't translate?
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:47 (two years ago) link
I think they both rely on a kind of Hollywood Magic™ which means nothing to them, to be honest it was difficult for me to see what I had liked about either film while I was watching with them, you know how it is.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
ET is kinda bad-creepy and Jaws is dull?
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:53 (two years ago) link
o my gawd theyre on a boat and theyre trying to kill a FISH
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:54 (two years ago) link
and there is BAD MAYOR
As a group we and my cousin's grade school kids watched Jaws on AMC a few years ago and it terrified them.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
yeah, maybe both films are just not that good? this year I've also realised that I have absolutely zero interest in fight/battle/action sequences of any sort except the most cartoonish Stephen Chow stuff, good to know I suppose, kids are still into it though.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 10:54 AM (five minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
come in, you can reductively describe any film this way
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:00 (two years ago) link
come *on
haha sorry, but it really did mostly bore me
― imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:01 (two years ago) link
Jaws gets better every time i watch it tbh, although every time i look forward more & more to when they get on the boat and it just becomes a loosey-goosey hangout movie
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:02 (two years ago) link
I dunno I find Jaws still resonates pretty strongly politically and culturally plus it's entertaining as hell xp
― ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
again, a.i. >>>>>>>>>>
i love jaws though, saw it for the first time in a theater about six years ago and found it so gripping
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
cant argue w/this but its a feature not a bug in this case imo. definitely fun to watch in a post-Tim Robinson world and see George C Scott inventing that whole deal in it
― nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link
sorry to morbs for another film thread turning into ppl debating the merits of jaws
xps to CaAL, makes sense i guess. I still think of E.T. and Close Encounters as exceptional, if not singular, depictions of a very familiar messy day-to-day suburban life - both in terms of the sets and the way the family members interact with each other. There is something in that, and the supernatural plots overlaid onto it, that I think of as the quintessential Spielberg signature that I so connected with as a kid. But I can see where both pieces of that equation are dated in different ways. We shall see...
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
"A lonely shark comes to terms with his isolation and anxieties during a long summer vacation."
― willem, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
i first saw jaws when i was six and cried at the end because i was sad they blew up the shark
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
the humor in this film is like GEDDIT GEDDIT GEDDIT *digs elbows into ribs*
Mary Ellen Moffat? The crushed styrofoam cup? Chief Brody suddenly telling his son to get out of the water? A++ humour!
― clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 11:54 AM (thirteen minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 11:54 AM (twelve minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
This is where the thread jumped the shark.
― Hannibal Lecture (PBKR), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link
I'm with Alfred, Strangelove is pretty lame. Doesn't help that I've seldom found Sellers funny.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link
Jaws II imo
― Karl Malone, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link