ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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I do agree that it's a bit sad more nations and styles haven't been represented but that's polls

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:27 (two years ago) link

And I think I got lazy with my ballot/was really blocked, but thought maybe no problem we'd get loads of good stuff instead of...Italy being wiped off the map?!

xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

no experimental shorts but gasp shock anime on the list

i voted for four anime films lol. none of them will make it. totoro and spirited away deserve it

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

I'm not sure of the reputation of the film school auteurs (Fellini, Antonioni, etc) these days tbh

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

there’s a way to lament that without seeming like you’re sneering at the unworthy voting plebes through half-moon glasses

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

xps to imago

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (two years ago) link

Anyway, we've had enough, Eric. Save us. Wipe Italy from the map.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:30 (two years ago) link

*I'm* the one sneering? Have you seen my ballot, I bloody am one of the plebes! There are three animations in my top 25 alone lol

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

Film is much more diverse now. In the olden days, film was a lot less diverse and much more of a 'Western' (in TWO senses!!!) concern

Point of order: this is false, it's just that the stuff that got canonized and #discoursed came from that era. Films have been made all over the world since the medium's inception and with many cinematheques putting silent stuff online these days it's easier to explore than ever.

Again, a way of ensuring more diversity would be to do another poll where you can't vote for anything on the TSDDT list (should perhaps shut up about this unless I volunteer to do it tho).

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

came from those territories, not that era, sorry

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:32 (two years ago) link

I don't like Fellini that much but definitely De Sica, Rosselini, Pasolini, and Antonioni is good but fine whatever.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link

Fair point, I should have said 'Western film discourse was a lot less diverse'

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:33 (two years ago) link

Film funding more unequal then too probably

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:36 (two years ago) link

Antonioni def deserves a mention as just the daddy of a certain kind of cinema, I guess maybe Wong Kar Wai is standing in for him. Would have loved some love for Elio Petri or the Taviani Bros but that's daydreaming.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

Watch three Sembène films make the top fifteen.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link

Antonioni def deserves a mention as just the daddy of a certain kind of cinema, I guess maybe Wong Kar Wai is standing in for him. Would

Really? How so? I'm curious. I'd have thought Jia Zhang-ke or Martel.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:38 (two years ago) link

it's been too long since i've seen red desert to include it on my ballot but that's the antonioni i would've voted for. as many ppl mentioned upthread some of these dudes were hardcore vote split

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

Gorgeous ppl being sad and pensive in gorgeous surroundings? Perhaps I misunderstand WKW, seemed his thing from what I've seen. xpost

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:39 (two years ago) link

I was thinking of form but you're right.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:40 (two years ago) link

*I'm* the one sneering? Have you seen my ballot, I bloody am one of the plebes! There are three animations in my top 25 alone lol

― imago, Wednesday, November 3, 2021 8:32 AM (eleven minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

nonono, sorry to give that impression

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:43 (two years ago) link

i'm just honestly hoping something else from my ballot places, my hopes are dwindling

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:47 (two years ago) link

From my 25 there have been 3 and 3 locks remain but I'm hoping somehow 5

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link

oh i missed that fwwm placed last night. that's probably it for my ballot then

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:48 (two years ago) link

btw everyone should've voted for terminator 2 instead of jurassic park

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:49 (two years ago) link

voted for both of those indie darlings in my unranked section

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

hopeful for my #1 but wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t make the cut

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:51 (two years ago) link

Lotsa votes for The Godfather that could have gone to Bram Stoker's Dracula.

(Full disclosure, I forgot to vote.)

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:53 (two years ago) link

is that a joke, because i like dracula a lot more than the godfather

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:54 (two years ago) link

happy that fwwm placed in a film poll at no. 21, which would've been unimaginable given its reputation when i first saw it in 2008

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

Kind of a joke, but I love Dracula too.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:55 (two years ago) link

critical turnaround on that movie is v vindicating, lynch never made anything better, not even the return xp

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

Dracula is a godfather too if you think about it.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:59 (two years ago) link

Feel like I should clarify the 'vegetables are good' comment: Back when I was getting my feet wet with this stuff, I treated myself to a summer long "History of Film" class taught by a local newspaper critic who used that term to describe certain classics (specifically Battleship Potemkin) that he felt were important historically, but that modern audiences would have a hard time for whatever reason getting into. This has become shorthand for me, and in relation to Andrew's list, I used it referring to Potemkin and Man With A Movie Camera without being specific.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:05 (two years ago) link

Ah ok there is a gap between that and Rome, Open City xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:09 (two years ago) link

Of course different films are vegetables to different ppl as well. I know some silent cinema fiends who love Man With A Movie Camera quite w/o any whiff of homework about it (more difficult to imagine with Potemkin I'll admit)

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link

I didn't vote in this because I thought it would be ALL French and Italian movies I hadn't seen, but given what's on the rollout I now feel like I would have been qualified. I may not know Antonioni but I know Jurassic Park placed too high.

Guayaquil (eephus!), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:24 (two years ago) link

Man with a Movie Camera is like my definitive "you think its vegetables but its just plain fun" movie tip for when silent-curious ppl have asked me for recommendations

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:30 (two years ago) link

That was Close Up for me. Not a silent, but: expected enigmatic slow cinema social realism, got a fun and touching film about ppl and what happens when you start filming.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:35 (two years ago) link

Of course different films are vegetables to different ppl as well. I know some silent cinema fiends who love Man With A Movie Camera quite w/o any whiff of homework about it (more difficult to imagine with Potemkin I'll admit)

I saw a screening of Man with a Movie Camera a few years ago accompanied by an improvising jazz/funk group. Hard to imagine that with Potemkin.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 14:58 (two years ago) link

always feel like films which are essentially collages of images and sounds intended to generate feeling (antonioni, vertov, maybe even malick) are fundamentally easier watches than films where the plot is the important thing, so seems odd that most people have this all the other way round.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:17 (two years ago) link

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20. DR. STRANGELOVE, OR: HOW I LEARNED TO STOP WORRYING AND LOVE THE BOMB (Stanley Kubrick, 1964, UK) [1,043.37 points; 19 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 114 | TSPDT: 46 | BOXD: 124

MORBS SEZ: "That Pauline Kael questioned why the filmmakers didn't supply answers for fixing the endgame of mutually assured destruction just makes me shake my damn head … what would Strangelove need to have aged well, Sarah Palin jokes?"

if we were ranking comic performances george c. scott in it would have been my #1.
― the "intenterface" (difficult listening hour), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:33 AM

strangelove isn't all that funny
― the people vs peer gynt (goole), Tuesday, September 8, 2009 12:52 PM

Dr. Strangelove is a comedy, and "should I be laughing at this? what's wrong with me!?!" is exactly what it's about. I guess Kubrick should've done more comedies, perhaps his nihilism would've suited that genre better.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Tuesday, March 30, 2004 1:17 PM

Just such a fantastic little comedic universe and a peerless cast to populate it. Even the music is funny
― Number None, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:47 AM

the thing about this movie (and is weirdly similar to Idiocracy for me) is that there aren't a tonne of hard laughs like my other fav comedies. but you're just watching this things grinning, totally thrilled at how brilliant it is. even my crusty-movie hating friends loved this.
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 10:40 AM

I'm almost certain that there's a book, or film or something which has the title: Dr. [something} or how i learned to stop [something} and [something} the [something}
― Slump Man (Slump Man), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:22 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

It's a stanley kubrick films starring peter sellars, one of the best films either of them ever made.
― Ed (dali), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:26 PM (seventeen years ago) bookmarkflaglink

Oh I don't know...
― Eric H. (Eric H.), Tuesday, February 24, 2004 12:27 PM

TMC has Fail-Safe on and so far it's quite a bit more entertaining than Strangelove, although as pointed out by the presenter this would have been a rather improbable opinion to formulate, much less defend, in 1964.
― El Tomboto, Thursday, October 4, 2007 9:05 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:19 (two years ago) link

this isn't one of my favorite kubrick films. it's been a while tho

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:21 (two years ago) link

The humor in this film is like GEDDIT GEDDIT GEDDIT *digs elbows into ribs*

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link

gentlemen you can't POLL in here this is the POLL POLL

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link

there are plenty Marvel movies better than Empire Strikes Back and Jurassic Park

No.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:26 (two years ago) link

yeah that was insane, albeit i'll make an exception for spider-verse

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

Strangelove: the #1 '60s movie in that old poll

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 15:29 (two years ago) link


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