ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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Or Showgirls

Vinnie, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:59 (four years ago)

I will be very miffed if it's the merely-good Phantom Thread and not the one I mean

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:59 (four years ago)

ah shit did i miss the snob off?

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:04 (four years ago)

Ive been assuming The Master will be the consensus Anderson pick

still trying to wrap my brain around how a list with Stop Making Sense, Mad Max Fury Road, Groundhog Day, ESB, Jurassic Park, Alien, NxNW, etc can be described as "wheres the fun?"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:04 (four years ago)

hope it's phantom thread and not the master and absolutely not magnolia

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:08 (four years ago)

it me, the guy who’s shocked that a bunch of dudes from the us and uk are mostly voting for films made by americans and europeans

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:10 (four years ago)

I didn't mean any PT Anderson but fwiw I shortlisted The Master and that was all

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

Longlisted even

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

Would rather see Wes tbh

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:14 (four years ago)

Italy is wildly underrepresented in this list, btw

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:15 (four years ago)

It's kinda funny how many film fans I see simultaneously saying movies have gotten too chaste and safe while dismissing Fellini as a sexist dinosaur and showing little interest in a master like Bunuel.

Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:19 (four years ago)

it me, the guy who’s shocked that a bunch of dudes from the us and uk are mostly voting for films made by americans and europeans

My experience with cinephiles in Portugal as well as best films ever lists from film mags around the world suggests you'll have mostly US and European films dominating no matter where you poll, tbh. Cultural imperalism's a hell of a drug.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:22 (four years ago)

anyway whining about lists and polls is a time honoured ILX tradition. xyzz complaining that there'd been no experimental shorts but gasp shock anime on the list when in reality there'd been one of each should be the tip off that mostly he's just bored, and more power to him.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:23 (four years ago)

we've had two experimental shorts

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:24 (four years ago)

Maybe I need to check the year end polls before the pandemic but we really had a pretty diverse set of films in those polls.

xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:25 (four years ago)

Film is much more diverse now. In the olden days, film was a lot less diverse and much more of a 'Western' (in TWO senses!!!) concern, so a poll drawing from across film history sacrifices diversity for chronological scope

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:26 (four years ago)

Italy is wildly underrepresented in this list, btw


Ya I think it’s too late at this point but Bicycle Thieves? I can imagine people lobbying the “eat your vegetables“ argument at it, but the actual experience of the film is an easy to watch, moving pleasure

To say nothing of the Antonioni/Visconti/Fellini/etc. shut out (have we had a single Fellini?)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:27 (four years ago)

I do agree that it's a bit sad more nations and styles haven't been represented but that's polls

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:27 (four years ago)

And I think I got lazy with my ballot/was really blocked, but thought maybe no problem we'd get loads of good stuff instead of...Italy being wiped off the map?!

xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (four years ago)

no experimental shorts but gasp shock anime on the list

i voted for four anime films lol. none of them will make it. totoro and spirited away deserve it

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (four years ago)

I'm not sure of the reputation of the film school auteurs (Fellini, Antonioni, etc) these days tbh

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (four years ago)

there’s a way to lament that without seeming like you’re sneering at the unworthy voting plebes through half-moon glasses

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (four years ago)

xps to imago

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:29 (four years ago)

Anyway, we've had enough, Eric. Save us. Wipe Italy from the map.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:30 (four years ago)

*I'm* the one sneering? Have you seen my ballot, I bloody am one of the plebes! There are three animations in my top 25 alone lol

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:32 (four years ago)

Film is much more diverse now. In the olden days, film was a lot less diverse and much more of a 'Western' (in TWO senses!!!) concern

Point of order: this is false, it's just that the stuff that got canonized and #discoursed came from that era. Films have been made all over the world since the medium's inception and with many cinematheques putting silent stuff online these days it's easier to explore than ever.

Again, a way of ensuring more diversity would be to do another poll where you can't vote for anything on the TSDDT list (should perhaps shut up about this unless I volunteer to do it tho).

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:32 (four years ago)

came from those territories, not that era, sorry

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:32 (four years ago)

I don't like Fellini that much but definitely De Sica, Rosselini, Pasolini, and Antonioni is good but fine whatever.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:33 (four years ago)

Fair point, I should have said 'Western film discourse was a lot less diverse'

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:33 (four years ago)

Film funding more unequal then too probably

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:36 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIUzVGtxQCY

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:36 (four years ago)

Antonioni def deserves a mention as just the daddy of a certain kind of cinema, I guess maybe Wong Kar Wai is standing in for him. Would have loved some love for Elio Petri or the Taviani Bros but that's daydreaming.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:37 (four years ago)

Watch three Sembène films make the top fifteen.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:37 (four years ago)

Antonioni def deserves a mention as just the daddy of a certain kind of cinema, I guess maybe Wong Kar Wai is standing in for him. Would

Really? How so? I'm curious. I'd have thought Jia Zhang-ke or Martel.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:38 (four years ago)

it's been too long since i've seen red desert to include it on my ballot but that's the antonioni i would've voted for. as many ppl mentioned upthread some of these dudes were hardcore vote split

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:39 (four years ago)

Gorgeous ppl being sad and pensive in gorgeous surroundings? Perhaps I misunderstand WKW, seemed his thing from what I've seen. xpost

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:39 (four years ago)

I was thinking of form but you're right.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:40 (four years ago)

*I'm* the one sneering? Have you seen my ballot, I bloody am one of the plebes! There are three animations in my top 25 alone lol

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nonono, sorry to give that impression

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:43 (four years ago)

i'm just honestly hoping something else from my ballot places, my hopes are dwindling

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:47 (four years ago)

From my 25 there have been 3 and 3 locks remain but I'm hoping somehow 5

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:48 (four years ago)

oh i missed that fwwm placed last night. that's probably it for my ballot then

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:48 (four years ago)

btw everyone should've voted for terminator 2 instead of jurassic park

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:49 (four years ago)

voted for both of those indie darlings in my unranked section

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:51 (four years ago)

hopeful for my #1 but wouldn’t be surprised if it doesn’t make the cut

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:51 (four years ago)

Lotsa votes for The Godfather that could have gone to Bram Stoker's Dracula.

(Full disclosure, I forgot to vote.)

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:53 (four years ago)

is that a joke, because i like dracula a lot more than the godfather

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:54 (four years ago)

happy that fwwm placed in a film poll at no. 21, which would've been unimaginable given its reputation when i first saw it in 2008

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:55 (four years ago)

Kind of a joke, but I love Dracula too.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:55 (four years ago)

critical turnaround on that movie is v vindicating, lynch never made anything better, not even the return xp

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:56 (four years ago)

Dracula is a godfather too if you think about it.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:59 (four years ago)


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