ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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I'm not sure what y'all expected. Has, say, Tsai or Hong ever commanded any plurality on ILX?

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

I didn't expect Tsai, Costa. But I expected something from Sembene or Kiarostami. Definitely something from Ray, Renoir and despite Louie banging on about that fucking film from Bunuel all his life not having anything from him is bad not good.

xps

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:15 (four years ago)

Ok, with regards to entertainment, how does a Bill Murray film rank above any Christopher Guest? How does Singing in the Rain get more consensus than Rocky Horror Picture Show or Hairspray? And yes, there are plenty Marvel movies better than Empire Strikes Back and Jurassic Park. Maybe even better Star Wars movies (Last Jedi?). I get coming of age movies are controversial and generational but it's still weird to see Back to the Future as the consensus (I went with Donnie Darko, Superbad and Breakfast Club).

And where are the good drugs movies? Smiley Face and Easy Rider for example.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:17 (four years ago)

Renoir? I mean he's definitely in, thank goodness

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:19 (four years ago)

Kiarostami surely votesplit alas, although I voted for one of the more popular ones

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:20 (four years ago)

lol Easy Rider is 100% a movie ppl only watch for historical context in 2021

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:21 (four years ago)

List does not include many of my favourites, and misses plenty of important directors, but I'm still happy with the list, lots of interesting stuff to go and watch.

Happy to see BTTF ahead of Breakfast Club and Superbad, a while since I saw Donnie Darko and was sleepy and drunk, but wasn't blown away by it, may watch again one day.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:22 (four years ago)

Yeah there's loads I need to see in this top 100, very happy to use it as a viewing guide for the next year or two

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:23 (four years ago)

Easy Rider, a film I have seen 10+ times, but never sober, and not in the last 20 years.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:23 (four years ago)

Sorry, I watched about a thousand fewer movies than anyone here so be gentle please. The list is already useful to me and I suspect I will get a lot more from individual lists later. Just venting some frustrations in terms of niche representations I'm interested in (which also includes more "global" cinema as others pointed out).

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:25 (four years ago)

lol Easy Rider is 100% a movie ppl only watch for historical context in 2021

Maybe, but historical context is sort of a precious thing in cinema? Like, I want to know how things felt at a time, and Easy Rider is maybe the best 60's film in those terms? There is a scene and a vibe there.

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:32 (four years ago)

Yeah no, nothing against that! I just thought that was what you were accusing Sunset Boulevard and Rear Window lovers of doing in the first place?

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:33 (four years ago)

we have had films from Belgium, Hong Kong, The USSR, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Australia, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan, Japan (x4) and 11 from France - this is probably more than similar polls, to be fair.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:36 (four years ago)

xp Those two feel like individual takes on universal themes, not part of some bigger constellation of feelings if that makes sense. Entertainment movies that have since been surpassed in entertainment and insight on those particular subjects (has been-ism and voyeurism).

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:39 (four years ago)

Being “angry” at a poll is idiotic but I’m surprised by some of these assumed omissions too; I’d have said kiarostami was guaranteed to appear(and I still think varda will)

siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:40 (four years ago)

Cannot wait for the world to burn so we can all get a Children of Men experience, then you can all stop banging on about it.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 10:46 (four years ago)

Those two feel like individual takes on universal themes, not part of some bigger constellation of feelings if that makes sense.

Hmmm, I think Sunset Boulevard, being such a meta film, is totally immersed in its time and its recent past. Rear Window less so, though tbf the vibe of neighbourly cohabitation feels from a different world now even if it was supposed to be highlighting isolation even then.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 11:08 (four years ago)

Rear Window 2021 is like 'a quarantining journalist languishes on his favourite webforum but notices that one of his boardmates has sinister opinions!' amiriiiite

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 11:10 (four years ago)

Incognito Window

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 11:11 (four years ago)

I appreciated and enjoyed the ballots you sent in for my own movie polls, xyzzzz, but this scolding people for picking the wrong movies--this is intended as tribute?

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:19 (four years ago)

i know you all love children of men but if cuarón makes the cut i’ll turn into xyz

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:23 (four years ago)

xyzzzz__ gonna xyzzzz__

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:24 (four years ago)

In fairness people did vote for a lot of middlebrow snooze material

plax (ico), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:25 (four years ago)

rear window is an awesome movie and it’s hilarious to watch ppl complain about it specifically though

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:27 (four years ago)

Being “angry” at a poll is idiotic

Might go with pointless instead, but agree with this. It’d be like getting worked up over Henry Flynt or Liliput not making the Rolling Stone Top 500.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:36 (four years ago)

There's one recent-years film that I've already predicted to make the top 20. Fingers crossed

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:42 (four years ago)

is it? think its more akin to being disappointed there's no music from africa on such a list. also i think it's legitimate to hope that an ilx list might be more distinct from other lists on the internet; with less stuff voted for purely because it's regarded elsewhere as part of the canon.

devvvine, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:46 (four years ago)

Disappointed, sure; I wouldn´t categorize the tone of these complaints as disappointment.

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:49 (four years ago)

We can properly recriminate when everyone reveals their ballots (longlists spoilertagged please)

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:51 (four years ago)

this list seems to reflect what i’ve always thought of as “ilx’s taste in film” idk. v few people here are as genre-damaged as me

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:53 (four years ago)

There's one recent-years film that I've already predicted to make the top 20.

Depending upon how recently you mean, my best guess would be Phantom Thread (based on its support in various ILX threads).

clemenza, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:55 (four years ago)

And yes, there are plenty Marvel movies better than Empire Strikes Back and Jurassic Park

however…. what

you have an argument maybe for one of the raimi spider-men but otherwise absolutely not

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:56 (four years ago)

If there's anything distinctively ILX-ish about the list, it might be the high placement for Stop Making Sense.

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:57 (four years ago)

Or Showgirls

Vinnie, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:59 (four years ago)

I will be very miffed if it's the merely-good Phantom Thread and not the one I mean

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 12:59 (four years ago)

ah shit did i miss the snob off?

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:04 (four years ago)

Ive been assuming The Master will be the consensus Anderson pick

still trying to wrap my brain around how a list with Stop Making Sense, Mad Max Fury Road, Groundhog Day, ESB, Jurassic Park, Alien, NxNW, etc can be described as "wheres the fun?"

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:04 (four years ago)

hope it's phantom thread and not the master and absolutely not magnolia

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:08 (four years ago)

it me, the guy who’s shocked that a bunch of dudes from the us and uk are mostly voting for films made by americans and europeans

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:10 (four years ago)

I didn't mean any PT Anderson but fwiw I shortlisted The Master and that was all

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

Longlisted even

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

Would rather see Wes tbh

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:14 (four years ago)

Italy is wildly underrepresented in this list, btw

jmm, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:15 (four years ago)

It's kinda funny how many film fans I see simultaneously saying movies have gotten too chaste and safe while dismissing Fellini as a sexist dinosaur and showing little interest in a master like Bunuel.

Chris L, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:19 (four years ago)

it me, the guy who’s shocked that a bunch of dudes from the us and uk are mostly voting for films made by americans and europeans

My experience with cinephiles in Portugal as well as best films ever lists from film mags around the world suggests you'll have mostly US and European films dominating no matter where you poll, tbh. Cultural imperalism's a hell of a drug.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:22 (four years ago)

anyway whining about lists and polls is a time honoured ILX tradition. xyzz complaining that there'd been no experimental shorts but gasp shock anime on the list when in reality there'd been one of each should be the tip off that mostly he's just bored, and more power to him.

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:23 (four years ago)

we've had two experimental shorts

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:24 (four years ago)

Maybe I need to check the year end polls before the pandemic but we really had a pretty diverse set of films in those polls.

xp

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:25 (four years ago)

Film is much more diverse now. In the olden days, film was a lot less diverse and much more of a 'Western' (in TWO senses!!!) concern, so a poll drawing from across film history sacrifices diversity for chronological scope

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:26 (four years ago)

Italy is wildly underrepresented in this list, btw


Ya I think it’s too late at this point but Bicycle Thieves? I can imagine people lobbying the “eat your vegetables“ argument at it, but the actual experience of the film is an easy to watch, moving pleasure

To say nothing of the Antonioni/Visconti/Fellini/etc. shut out (have we had a single Fellini?)

Lavator Shemmelpennick, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:27 (four years ago)

I do agree that it's a bit sad more nations and styles haven't been represented but that's polls

imago, Wednesday, 3 November 2021 13:27 (four years ago)


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