ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

also voted for another film likely to place which will generate a fair amount of objection / hostility on here.

^stoked for the Booksmart backlash

Wes Anderson would have some vote splitting I'd imagine - Fantastic Mr Fox vs The Royal Tenenbaums, for a start.

Wes Anderson is fine I guess, but didn't vote for any of his films, expect majority of people here feel the same.

Stalker and Beau Travail are sure to come? Hoping for Naked as well.

'vegetables are good for you' way this poll ain't about

'vegetables are good for you' is actually a good way to describe the way I feel about the list so far. Like, I'm sure Sunset Blvd and Rear Window are important for the history of cinema craft and genre formation, but are they among the 100 best things you could watch at any given moment (preferably with friends, significant others or new acquaintances)? Very little "fun" on the list. I know that canonic picks naturally swim out on top, but I'm still surprised by the amount of canon that got significant number of votes.

Vote splitting hasn't stopped Robert Altman (I love a lot of his films, it's just seeing five of his against what has been missed out from the poll that angers me).

"Like, I'm sure Sunset Blvd and Rear Window are important for the history of cinema craft and genre formation, but are they among the 100 best things you could watch at any given moment (preferably with friends, significant others or new acquaintances)?"

They are absolutely not. I mean Rear Window? This is like some half-arsed play put on the screen. You'd only watch it to check out the source of that Simpsons Episode of it.

"voted for one kubrick I expect to place"

2001, The Shining, Strangelove. Eyes Wide Shut has at least a great book behind it, and if you watch with that in mind there's more going for it.

Kane and Casablanca are the ones that will place that I'm good with.

the omission of still working masters like tsai, costa, jia or hou is pretty glaring. disappointing, but i guess not surprising, they've suffered from vote splitting more than english language directors

will be interested to see what the list looks like once you subtract anything that places in the imdb top 50

"Rear Window 50. Rear Window (1954) 8.4 "

exactly

Ok, I get I am a diletante, but it still feels like the list is more insular, individualistic, auteur oriented, as opposed to capturing a moment in time and place, the way people think and act. Sex, humour and politics as opposed to dread, anxiety and boredom. Actually think Altman is the exception so I'm glad he got 4 in. Dunno, just the vibe I'm getting, haven't seen a lot of the list and will remedy that, carry on.

'vegetables are good for you' is actually a good way to describe the way I feel about the list so far. Like, I'm sure Sunset Blvd and Rear Window are important for the history of cinema craft and genre formation, but are they among the 100 best things you could watch at any given moment (preferably with friends, significant others or new acquaintances)?

"I'm cool with these classics but not others"?

Frankly we need people eating more vegetables, not less.

Like, I'm sure Sunset Blvd and Rear Window are important for the history of cinema craft and genre formation, but are they among the 100 best things you could watch at any given moment (preferably with friends, significant others or new acquaintances)? Very little "fun" on the list.

This is a bizarre statement to me. Those are two commercial films made with the primary purpose of entertaining you, I can't even imagine viewing them as something you have to sit through for historical value. There are so many more dour and difficult films on this list - many of which are also great!

fwiw I'm in favour of anti-TV gatekeeping because once we decide TV and film are the same thing fucking prestige dramas will take up even more oxygen than they already do, same reason I'm against putting TV shows on letterboxd

watched Berlin Alexanderplatz and damn thing has opening and closing credits between each episode tho, so def not a movie

I watched a few Wong Kar Wai's in the early to mid 00's and didn't think much of them at the time but I think dodgy copies and Portuguese subtitles may have played a part - what's the consensus, is that Criterion set with the rejigged versions kosher or nah?

you all have got this in my head

Then again, the last time I took hallucinogenic drugs was about five years ago; I took mushrooms in Joshua Tree looking for that Carlos Castaneda kind of experience. I got off, my boyfriend didn't; he fell asleep, left me alone with the TV, turned on PBS, you know what was on? ..."Berlin Alexanderplatz"

So I started watching it, and you know what...? I got really bummed out

xxp That's kind of the point. Are Sunset Blvd and Rear Window still peak entertainment? Tommy Wiseau's The Room strikes me as the deeper and funnier version of Sunset Blvd, for example.

I realize these are two separate criticisms (previous pop movies that I think are surpassed, and difficult and dour art films that I think have "healthier" alternatives) but they sort of coalesce in the auteur cult maybe?

But Akerman made the cut -- hardly a film that induces giggling.

Is Children of Men still coming?

― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Tuesday, November 2, 2021 4:08 PM (seven hours ago)

i hope so too

Saying this one great film made the cut hardly makes up for what else has come up here. xp

Nothing from Iran, Africa or South America. Nothing from India.

Saying this one great film made the cut hardly makes up for what else has come up here. xp

― xyzzzz__, Wednesday, November 3, 2021

I'm not sure what y'all expected. Has, say, Tsai or Hong ever commanded any plurality on ILX?

That's kind of the point. Are Sunset Blvd and Rear Window still peak entertainment?

I don't think entertainment really has a sell-by date. I'll readily admit tho that yer average film from 2021 feels more like hard work to me than yer average film from 1941* so this is personal taste. But it's def nowt to do with forcing myself to watch and "appreciate" them.

* the 1941 selection's less likely to be two and a half hours long, for one

Making out like Rear Window isn't fun is probably the most insane thing posted to this thread tbh

Oh wait

Tommy Wiseau's The Room strikes me as the deeper and funnier version of Sunset Blvd, for example.

it is ye trollinge

I'm not sure what y'all expected. Has, say, Tsai or Hong ever commanded any plurality on ILX?

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 3 November 2021 bookmarkflaglink

I didn't expect Tsai, Costa. But I expected something from Sembene or Kiarostami. Definitely something from Ray, Renoir and despite Louie banging on about that fucking film from Bunuel all his life not having anything from him is bad not good.

xps

Ok, with regards to entertainment, how does a Bill Murray film rank above any Christopher Guest? How does Singing in the Rain get more consensus than Rocky Horror Picture Show or Hairspray? And yes, there are plenty Marvel movies better than Empire Strikes Back and Jurassic Park. Maybe even better Star Wars movies (Last Jedi?). I get coming of age movies are controversial and generational but it's still weird to see Back to the Future as the consensus (I went with Donnie Darko, Superbad and Breakfast Club).

And where are the good drugs movies? Smiley Face and Easy Rider for example.

Renoir? I mean he's definitely in, thank goodness

Kiarostami surely votesplit alas, although I voted for one of the more popular ones

lol Easy Rider is 100% a movie ppl only watch for historical context in 2021

List does not include many of my favourites, and misses plenty of important directors, but I'm still happy with the list, lots of interesting stuff to go and watch.

Happy to see BTTF ahead of Breakfast Club and Superbad, a while since I saw Donnie Darko and was sleepy and drunk, but wasn't blown away by it, may watch again one day.

Yeah there's loads I need to see in this top 100, very happy to use it as a viewing guide for the next year or two

Easy Rider, a film I have seen 10+ times, but never sober, and not in the last 20 years.

Sorry, I watched about a thousand fewer movies than anyone here so be gentle please. The list is already useful to me and I suspect I will get a lot more from individual lists later. Just venting some frustrations in terms of niche representations I'm interested in (which also includes more "global" cinema as others pointed out).

lol Easy Rider is 100% a movie ppl only watch for historical context in 2021

Maybe, but historical context is sort of a precious thing in cinema? Like, I want to know how things felt at a time, and Easy Rider is maybe the best 60's film in those terms? There is a scene and a vibe there.

Yeah no, nothing against that! I just thought that was what you were accusing Sunset Boulevard and Rear Window lovers of doing in the first place?

we have had films from Belgium, Hong Kong, The USSR, Germany, Denmark, Sweden, Australia, Italy, Czechoslovakia, Spain, Turkey, Taiwan, Japan (x4) and 11 from France - this is probably more than similar polls, to be fair.

xp Those two feel like individual takes on universal themes, not part of some bigger constellation of feelings if that makes sense. Entertainment movies that have since been surpassed in entertainment and insight on those particular subjects (has been-ism and voyeurism).

Being “angry” at a poll is idiotic but I’m surprised by some of these assumed omissions too; I’d have said kiarostami was guaranteed to appear(and I still think varda will)

Cannot wait for the world to burn so we can all get a Children of Men experience, then you can all stop banging on about it.

Those two feel like individual takes on universal themes, not part of some bigger constellation of feelings if that makes sense.

Hmmm, I think Sunset Boulevard, being such a meta film, is totally immersed in its time and its recent past. Rear Window less so, though tbf the vibe of neighbourly cohabitation feels from a different world now even if it was supposed to be highlighting isolation even then.

Rear Window 2021 is like 'a quarantining journalist languishes on his favourite webforum but notices that one of his boardmates has sinister opinions!' amiriiiite

Incognito Window

I appreciated and enjoyed the ballots you sent in for my own movie polls, xyzzzz, but this scolding people for picking the wrong movies--this is intended as tribute?

i know you all love children of men but if cuarón makes the cut i’ll turn into xyz

xyzzzz__ gonna xyzzzz__

In fairness people did vote for a lot of middlebrow snooze material

rear window is an awesome movie and it’s hilarious to watch ppl complain about it specifically though

Being “angry” at a poll is idiotic

Might go with pointless instead, but agree with this. It’d be like getting worked up over Henry Flynt or Liliput not making the Rolling Stone Top 500.