ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

not saying I won't love these films

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All Dana Carvey Top 20!

#1 is an SNL ep from '89

Prediction I'll probably end up feeling silly about: based on my own ballot, and based on the near-obsession found in the ILX thread, Zodiac will be in the Top 20.

Is Children of Men still coming?

It'll be pretty funny if Twin Peaks: the Return places. 120 years of movies and we have to pilfer from television.

sorry you feel that way

I love it to death but I'm firmly in the "it's TV" camp.

it's tv

who cares

it's tv

it's about a lonely Parisian woman

:)

it is so much more than tv and more than almost every other movie

It's at #17 in the Shmight & Shmound poll, which overlaps very heavily with this thread

https://letterboxd.com/lifewithnopants/list/shmight-shmound-2019/

Twin Peaks: The Return was one of the most amazing universes ever constructed, with the weight of all of what came before

Still TV

I suspect their top 3 will be the same as ours.

TP:TR shouldn't be on this list because it is only about 40% good, apart from anything else.

whatever

it's about 30% abjectly terrible, fwiw.

Is I'm Thinking of Ending Things TV? Berlin Alexanderplatz? The Wiseman films made for PBS? Etc., etc.

Berlin Alexanderplatz is TV.

Got eight votes in the 2012 S&S poll.

A lot of the Fassbinder TV stuff got retooled as Features and/or was shown theatrically outside Germany.

Berlin Alexanderplatz is TV.

― Chris L, Tuesday, November 2, 2021

that is such a ridiculous idea of what is worthy and what is not

did i'm thinking of ending things air episodically on a television channel over several months?

Right, but Twin Peaks: The Return got theatrical showings too...I just think that's a line that gets blurrier all the time and leads to inconsistency.

If it's multi-episode that's the sticking point, I'd again point to Wiseman's films.

Retooled cuts for cinemas are movies (the Fanny and Alexander rule). There's never been a theatrical cut of TP: TR, although I know it's been played in at least one theater.

I'm also not being completely serious here so I'll stop.

TV shows can also be art btw, I didn't call them television to diminish them.

I know it played in Toronto...I'm not being difficult on purpose. It's a division I'd like to see disappear (reflected on my ballot).

would love to check out the 180min theatrical cut of the return, but i don't think it would work all that well

xxxp it's not a "tv show" and yes you did

I've been watching Wiseman's films on Kanopy, have gotten up through Racetrack (1985)

Those Wiseman films usually get a theatrical release in advance of PBS airing & streaming them.

FWIW, I don't know why I arguing this, as I voted for Carlos--which I saw theatrically in a marathon three-part screening over an afternoon and evening.

Carlos is another good example.

Didn't know that about Wiseman's films--stand corrected on that.

xxp Why would it be an insult if I consider it a TV show? The best of any medium elevates that medium. I got engaged at that hotel from the show, I think I like it well enough.

because you disparaged it as a tv show dude

It'll be pretty funny if Twin Peaks: the Return places. 120 years of movies and we have to pilfer from television.

― Chris L, Tuesday, November 2, 2021

I imagine the Wiseman thing is part of his deal w/PBS.

PBS as of late has been picking up a number of festival-screened docs and running them as episodes of American Masters or Independent Lens (which is how they brand the Wisemans).

I voted for two American Masters!

lol if anything that post is disparaging film by saying it will have to steal from tv to find the best stuff xps

The Trial, Mister America, all the Decker movies and all the Oscar specials just about makes a top 20...

xp Exactly, if I thought there were only 237 good movies that would still be enough to fill out a ballot without stealing television's valor.

Room 237, Freudian slip.

Oh shit.
"You see? It's ok. He saw it on the television."
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wtf is this about stealing "television's valor"?

I put To Catch a Beautician on my list so...

:)

I loved I'm Thinking of Ending Things, it took me a couple of watches to appreciate it. It was a 2 hour 15 minute movie, it did not air over several months

also loved Berlin Alexanderplatz, that got to me in a very visceral way and I had a hard time with it in the end

The Kaufman is an interesting case, because it would most definitely had a theatrical release (or a wider one, if it had one in the first place) were it not for Covid-19.

In the time it took to argue about if x title is TV or film, y'all could have been watching Stan Brakhage's crazy-kinetic, fathomless Black Ice (1994) instead. Check it out here.