boyfriends and girlfriends is indeed a banger. moments where the whole film seems to exist for rohmer to play with colour blocking using clothing.
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:33 (four years ago)
Delphine is one of the most relatable characters in film to me - her reticence and indecisiveness, the way she shuts down or opens up depending on how she thinks she's perceived by the people around her, the hilarious awkwardness of the vegetarianism scene. Marie Rivière conveys it all perfectly.
The simplicity of scale is wonderful too, how much you can accomplish with such a basic setup.
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:34 (four years ago)
Love Barry Lyndon, it and the shining were the only Kubrick I liked until I saw the early noirs recently
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:36 (four years ago)
Rivière unafraid to be churlish too.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:36 (four years ago)
In addition to everything else it's a very funny film about Ireland in quotes
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:37 (four years ago)
I prefer Hong sangsoo to rohmer
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:38 (four years ago)
i haven't seen the green ray. let's look up a description.
"A lonely Parisian woman comes to terms with her isolation and anxieties during a long summer vacation."
zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz
― adam t. (abanana), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:40 (four years ago)
Noted.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:40 (four years ago)
― plax (ico), Tuesday,
Interesting comparison. More goes on in a Hong film as they also chatter about nothing.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:41 (four years ago)
It's funnier than that description makes it sound. Basically a series of aborted attempts to take a vacation when nowhere is good enough.
― jmm, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:44 (four years ago)
Judging by the list so far I definitely see how they could lose you at "woman."
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:47 (four years ago)
Why watch a film when you can read a description?
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:48 (four years ago)
There's action, too! She invents a green ray, which she uses to secure world domination as a super-villain.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:48 (four years ago)
re hong / rohmer. rohmer is def his daddy, but i think main difference is where rohmer was exploring the way cinema could advance existing literary traditions of narrative, particularly a sort of 19th c philosophical novel, hong is wrapped up in new possibilities of narrative engagement that can only exist in the moving image, and having the philosophy embodied in the structure rather than content.
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:49 (four years ago)
I've been slow to check out Hong for the petty reason that so many of the protagonists seem to work in the film business, but I guess I should finally remedy that.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:55 (four years ago)
he's great
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:00 (four years ago)
devvvine’s comment about hong / rohmer seems otm to me
― Dan S, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:07 (four years ago)
<<"A lonely Parisian woman comes to terms with her isolation and anxieties during a long summer vacation."
Judging by the list so far I definitely see how they could lose you at "woman.">>
Ha! Please let me know of the existence of any films that fit the description of nothing but "a lonely Parisian woman."
This reminds me of one of my favorite Simpsons exchanges.
Homer: You can always write a depressing Broadway play of some kind.Lisa: You think so?Marge: Sure! It could be a story about people coming to terms with things.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:18 (four years ago)
more movies about lonely Parisian women plz
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:36 (four years ago)
Sorry all, Zing is refusing my post of #28. Gonna be an hour before I get back in front of a desktop.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:37 (four years ago)
is it 'Jobs'?
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:41 (four years ago)
well since there's time to kill...
S tier: green ray, tree mayor and the mediatheque, l'amie de mon amie, marquis of o, aviators wife, last night at mauds, percevalA tier: tale of autumn, reinette and mirabelle, love in the afternoon, claire's knee, suzannes career, pauline on the beach, astree & celadonB tier: triple agent, tale of winter, tale of summer full moon in paris, rendezvous in parisC tier: the lady and the duke, a good marriage, sign of leo, collectioneuse, tale of springtime, bakery girl
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:45 (four years ago)
and appearance as 'the balzacien' in out 1 is, of course, essential
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:49 (four years ago)
What does the S in S tier mean? I know it's good, but...
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:51 (four years ago)
^^^Same Question. Shay d'oovre?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:52 (four years ago)
star, i've always assumed. idk it's a video game thing
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:53 (four years ago)
Smasterpiece.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:54 (four years ago)
<<star, i've always assumed. idk it's a video game thing>>
Wait - what does that mean? A star is better than an A?
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:55 (four years ago)
The Hague
Meh
Sound, Solid
Good to Great
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:56 (four years ago)
didnt want to infringe upon yr trademark alfred
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:58 (four years ago)
"s tier" has always meant "shit tier" afaia
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:58 (four years ago)
Tiers are not enough.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 16:59 (four years ago)
Shittier than what?
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:00 (four years ago)
(some zings from ILX's own Northern Lights right there)
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:02 (four years ago)
I'm lost so I'll move on to say that this thread inspired me to watch Pierrot le Fou for the first time in eons and I loved every nanosecond of it, Belmondo's slip-on shoes most of all. S for Sexy Tier!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:09 (four years ago)
(xpost) Speaking of which...I think Cronenberg (and therefore Canada) is going to be shut out. I'd be surprised if he shows up this high.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:12 (four years ago)
Is there a consensus Cronenberg? I voted for The Dead Zone, but I don't see that placing how.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:13 (four years ago)
*now
Maybe Dead Ringers? The Dead Zone is my favourite too, but I didn't vote for it.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:15 (four years ago)
Yes, the consensus is that Crash is one of the ten best films of the 1990s. I agree!
― Kevin John Bozelka, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:15 (four years ago)
― devvvine, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 15:49 (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink
this is a great post that only leaves out how much funnier hong is
― plax (ico), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:16 (four years ago)
xp Would have to be Videodrome.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:17 (four years ago)
Crash is solidly S Tier--silly!
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:18 (four years ago)
I definitely didn't vote for anything named Crash.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:19 (four years ago)
Maybe Videodrome, maybe even The Fly. That's why he won't place--there isn't one.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:20 (four years ago)
― plax (ico), Tuesday, November 2, 2021
I agree -- terrific post.
I won't rank them on a laugh-o-meter, but Hong's humor is as situational as Rohmer's, maybe even more reliant on po-faced characters taking their addled observations as seriously?
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:20 (four years ago)
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28. DOG DAY AFTERNOON (Sidney Lumet, 1975, USA) [901.25 points; 12 votes] S&S: 418 | TSPDT: 286 | BOXD: 159
MORBS SEZ: "Watched Dog Day for the first time in eons on Friday -- really amazing neorealist texture, the quintessence of '70s New York (ie, better than Mean Streets or Taxi Driver). Possibly Pacino's peak, and I didn't realize Judith Malina and Lance Henriksen had small meaty roles."search: dog day afternoondestroy: the rest― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:14 PMdog day afternoon x10000000― and what, Friday, April 6, 2007 1:44 PMI rewatched Dog Day Afternoon last weekend and it is perfect― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, June 30, 2019 1:35 AMawesome story, Pacino's best role, John Cazale v. good as well, shocking ending too.― Ludo, Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:07 AMWent with Dog Day Afternoon without thinking about it. Having thought about it, I stand by that choice.― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:13 PMDog Day Afternoon is one of Lumet's better efforts. Not saying much but voila.― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:54 AMDog Day Afternoon is kinda a Marx Brothers movie for the 70s.― fistula pumping action (sarahel), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:50 PMasthma inhalers in moviesThe bank manager in Dog Day Afternoon has an asthma attack, I can't remember if there's an inhaler though.― sandy, Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 PMI'm enjoying his book Making Movies and how much he hates teamsters.― flappy bird, Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:01 PM
search: dog day afternoondestroy: the rest― cinniblount (James Blount), Thursday, February 26, 2004 3:14 PM
dog day afternoon x10000000― and what, Friday, April 6, 2007 1:44 PM
I rewatched Dog Day Afternoon last weekend and it is perfect― Squeaky Fromage (VegemiteGrrl), Sunday, June 30, 2019 1:35 AM
awesome story, Pacino's best role, John Cazale v. good as well, shocking ending too.― Ludo, Sunday, June 21, 2009 2:07 AM
Went with Dog Day Afternoon without thinking about it. Having thought about it, I stand by that choice.― Gerard (Le Bateau Ivre), Sunday, June 21, 2009 4:13 PM
Dog Day Afternoon is one of Lumet's better efforts. Not saying much but voila.― Kevin John Bozelka, Sunday, June 21, 2009 11:54 AM
Dog Day Afternoon is kinda a Marx Brothers movie for the 70s.― fistula pumping action (sarahel), Tuesday, June 23, 2009 3:50 PM
asthma inhalers in moviesThe bank manager in Dog Day Afternoon has an asthma attack, I can't remember if there's an inhaler though.― sandy, Wednesday, March 29, 2006 9:40 PM
I'm enjoying his book Making Movies and how much he hates teamsters.― flappy bird, Saturday, June 29, 2019 6:01 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:21 (four years ago)
had a Cronenberg film not yet mentioned ITT at #12, it will not place
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:22 (four years ago)
i like Dog Day Afternoon fine but really?
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:23 (four years ago)
Didn't vote for it--I think it really tails off the last half-hour or so--but I like that it's this high. Right there with Almost Famous for the best use of Elton John in a movie.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 2 November 2021 17:27 (four years ago)