HBO's Succession - Season 2 and Beyond

kendall sent his assistant the “shopping list” to buy the speakers, the empty speaker boxes were in his office

Thanks, I totally missed all this

That scene actually did make me think "I wonder what the vibe is with just general mid-level employees at Waystar/Royco" but probably I would not actually enjoy it if the show went more this way.

that scene w Roman & Logan is so good. Culkins subtle movements are so tellin the way he lowers his head slightly, and without really doing much just somehow pulls himself ~inward~ ….but even with his gaze lowered, he’s constantly watching Logan like he’s on high alert waiting for a stray backhand

Roman’s deal will never been completely explicated but it feels less like a “who hurt you?” situation — obviously, the answer is that everyone in his family is just constantly trying to wear each other down — but “who never paid attention to you as a human, with needs” which is also everyone

the fact he repurposed a fishing story to give a dad anecdote, and it was fishing with Connor of all people, jesus christ

All I was thinking is server rooms are very loud and hot and that is probably not a comfortable environment in that corduroy bomber jacket.

Yeah, that bugged me too.

So glad I stuck it out with S1. Bachelor party in the club episode was great television . And what an epic closing to the season

:D

the greg/logan private meeting went exactly as I’d guessed it would. amazing to just spring that on us, as everything in life seems to just spring up at greg

“what do you want?”
“what can i get?”
logan, somehow not contorting in frustration:
“that is not how this works”

S2 e1 starts too fast
Ken doll decompressing in the infinity pool for less than two days ?

christ this episode

i keep thinking about the poor chef/caterer and all the wasted food for that fuckin cliff-top summit.

Kendall and Logan hugging #Succession #Successionhbo pic.twitter.com/NYycu88hrJ

— tommy1211 (@wehaveagronk) November 8, 2021

i keep thinking about the poor chef/caterer and all the wasted food for that fuckin cliff-top summit.

This! But also, Adrien Brody was perfectly cast for the type of rich dbag that would expect that. "We're not lost... YOU'RE LOST!"

I like the way there was just this whole unspoken thing of the Roys obviously not believing the kid was really sick and Aaronson knowing they didn't believe him but also knowing and enjoying that they couldn't say they didn't believe him

and rubbing it in their faces by going into the city right after

Also, as they got further and further from the house, Kendall and Logan each not being sure if they had been set up by the other.

I loved this episode for showing both Kendall AND Logan getting played for absolute fools at the same time. Obviously Logan knew it going in, so he was going to play along, no matter what - it's part of the territory for him. Watching it slowly dawn on Kendall was great tho.

the weighted silences in this episode were even more intense than normal, its wild to watch logan & kendall, and the brody character too, all gaming what they *think* should be said but no one really coming out and saying anything real for fear it will hurt their standing, power etc

even logan saying what he says about kendall, which while likely somewhat genuine is also the sharpest knife possible given all that kendall is giving up to hold his current position. saying THAT now, that is like the emotional soap in the sock beating and you can see in the moment how much he does AND doesnt want to acknowledge it without saying a word about it

seems like were headed for tom turning government witness

yeah it would seem thats coming

naw, he's going to jail and converting to Judaism

or that

Matthew Macfadyen is just light-years ahead of all the other actors in this show

i do v much want him to go to jail, primarily for reasons involving the production and imbibing of toilet wine

xpost but there are literally no bad actors in the main cast

i really felt it when he was talking about how good the cold wine is

xpost but there are literally no bad actors in the main cast

― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Monday, November 8, 2021 2:41 PM (two minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

That's the thing about this show, there are a million thinkpieces about "what makes it so compelling" and "do people like or hate these characters" or whatever but I think it is extremely simple, we are watching a bunch of actors who are extremely good at acting and that is inherently enjoyable.

hard disagree!

The funny part (which I hope continues to evolve) is that Tom is so anxious in a masochistic way to play his role and sacrifice himself, but no one around him really cares or wants to fit this desire into the family's strategies.

lol yeah theyre all in denial about the investigation, totally focused on their power struggle

Yeah, agree that the whole investigation is treated as a minor issue/collateral damage, something for the wage slave mortals to deal with, the godly Roy's are busy throwing thunderbolts at each other, from remote islands and helicopters in the sky. I think the acting has always been the draw here as the characters are often unpleasant, but weirdly fun. I wince at and yet adore the nastiness on show, in this corperate backstabathon...as mentioned Tom's unloved masochism, Connor's sneering conservatism, Roman vicious childish tongue, Shiv's cold, transactional demands, Kendell's vacant social media greasiness....it's 6d chess with the divil himself, Logan. I like that they revisited Logan's infirmness and ill health again, it's a key driver in the succession story, the clocks always ticking and the pieces are having to move accordingly

Greg meeting Logan was almost unwatchable, like I can't fathom them being in the same universe let alone Greg trying to casually have a drink with his uncle. It was sublime, obviously.

so good

i rewatched this ep at lunchtime & noticed the weird dynamic between kendall & logan when logan is clearly having difficulty but keeps refusing help and kendall keeps letting it go & making excuses -
but it’s not to put him under.
i think it’s instinctive, like he’s weirdly protecting his dad from any appearance of weakness. in their family the “caring” thing to do is to help keep up the charade

like brody takes all of that to mean the family dynamic is broken and as an outsider he’s right, but in the fucked up, upside down world of the Roys, if anything it shows that kendall still cares? lol. its so crazy.

the irl island mansion

Logan and Kendall visited this Wainscott, NY home on tonight’s episode of Succession. It was mostly recently listed for $49.5 million but was taken off the market.

6 bd, 11 ba
11,000 sf
2.55 acreshttps://t.co/mcR6F9t16A pic.twitter.com/uzIAwVYUES

— Zillow Gone Wild (@zillowgonewild) November 8, 2021

love to spend 49.5 million dollars on a house that looks like a hospital

most of the $50m houses out there look like this https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/232-Gibson-Ln-Sagaponack-NY-11962/142505411_zpid/

they had to show you just how much of an asshole brody is

i have noticed with these mamsions there are often at least 2 bathrooms for every 1 bedroom, ratio wise. SO many bathrooms

mansions, even

rich people like to let their toilets rest a while after taking a shit in them

Why did they need to fly to the hamptons? Can’t a helicopter do that?

ever heard of an air transportation flex

the meeting scene was some crazy good acting and writing, I absolutely could not tell if Brody was lying about his kid being sick, could not tell if he and logan had colluded first, could not tell if logan was faking a heart attack (at first). amazing.

the three registers of Brody relationships we saw - to the supplicant (Kendall), to the serious-person-he-is-attempting-to-force-treat-as-a-peer (Logan), to the one he wants something from (Stewy) - were superbly done.

this show is somehow both sublime and totally trashy at the same time

the sweet spot

So the creator has talked about 1-2 more seasons and the fact that *someone* has to step up.

So who do we think is going to "succeed" Logan

*maybet Kendall? though there have been too many close ups this season of watching his face sink (closing shot this week, him walking down the hallway last week).
*Shiv got iced this week by Logan, though she gets shit done.
*Not Roman, right? It would almost be too funny.
*Same w/Greg
*I hope it's not some outsider. Gotta be one of the kids.

I almost think Shiv, though she's gonna have to get through Karl and Frank and that might be hilarious

Maybe it will be Kendall?

Also this season needs more Stewey because I hate him so much

greg will definitely be CEO in the last scene of the series - the opening of the series demands it

but i find it hard to justify a real plot arc around this, so most likely it's a last-minute lol at the end

narrative demands mean that Roman will get the chance to be CEO but will make "the wiser choice"

which leaves Shiv and Kendall, battling it out in the show's final episodes (after logan dies). probably shiv gets it but then ends up somehow being humiliated/defeated for her hubris?

and then, yeah, greg

Kendall also has that security guard who last week was all I know what you did in England at that wedding

Yeah what's the explanation for why Logan hasn't exposed Kendall as a murderer? Is the idea that it would kill their ability to survive Stewy? But if that's the reason, doesn't Kendall know he's dead meet once/if the Roys win the shareholder vote?

Yeah, I think it's just that a serious murder investigation will definitely trump *allegations*, which the Roy family thinks they can just handwave away and evade, as per usual. A murder investigation would almost certainly chase the shareholders away immediately.