ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

Shining>2001>Barry>Strangelove>Paths>ACO>FMJ>EWS>Lolita imo

i like the long goodbye but there's 4-5 altmans that are better. chandler (and imitators) set after the 50s doesn't translate well.

I've only seen one Altman - yikes!

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33. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (Irvin Kershner, 1980, USA) [872.2 points; 10 votes]
S&S: 613 | TSPDT: 283 | BOXD: 24

MORBS SEZ: "the original trilogy was on basic cable a few weekends ago and I couldn't take more than 30 seconds of Mark Hamill's screeching … Empire was on in a bar w/ sound off and "Linus & Lucy" from Peanuts was playing during Vder's first scene. How long did it take for Luke to traiCHRISTGETALIFE"

I recently had the experience of watching Empire with my 28 year old friend who had never seen it before. He'd only watched Star Wars for the first time a few days previously. He was mildly enthusiastic, I'd say he rated it about 6/10 by his reaction. He thought there was too much white plastic in it though.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, December 30, 2010 8:50 AM

another thing i like about "Empire" is how there is a running gag of everything they did in the first movie not working right away and having to try several times to get it right. you see this in everything from the hyperdrive to R2 being unable to open doors (which is something he did easily in SW1). there is a lot of dark humor in Empire.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:19 PM

something great/weird about empire is how it's always pronounced "dark SIDE" ... with the stress on the last syllable, the way english people say "hot SAUCE" or "singaPORE".
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:01 PM

watched Empire with my son yesterday. got a bit choked up at the part where Luke is communicating telepathically with Leia while hanging from the bottom of Cloud City.
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, May 18, 2015 9:51 AM

it pleases me to no end that The Big Sleep, Rio Bravo, The Long Goodbye, and Empire Strikes Back were all written by a lady.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:39 PM

amazingly good, lest we forget.
― chap, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:55 AM

i finally accepted that much of the script and acting in Empire Strikes Back is just as lame as in Episodes 1 & 2
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, June 14, 2003 2:47 PM

Rather amazing that the series' only claim to greatness -- the only reason it has any resonance -- rests on one movie (The Empire Strikes Back) directed by someone not its creator.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 27, 2011 6:15 PM

That's a load of bullshit but whatever.
― polyphonic, Monday, June 27, 2011 6:18 PM

The first Star Wars is fun, Return of the Jedi is as anonymous and terrible as any Bond film released in that era. What else remains?
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 27, 2011 6:21 PM

Willow!
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, June 27, 2011 6:22 PM

Throughout tabulation, I noted if any new incoming ballot was, quote, "an Empire Strikes Back ballot."

xp i've seen three but one of them is downton abbey episode zero which barely counts

omg CALLED IT

ew a star wars

Still stand by my comment.

The film's also beautiful to look at, and all those small, almost vestigial comic touches (R2 on tip-toes peeking into Yoga's yurt) became impossible to find in the other films.

fakeout in the mid-30s, i like it.

(i voted for revenge of the sith)

imagining Morbs rolling his eyes rn

"CHRISTGETALIFE" probably about sums it up from his corner.

one of the 2 good star wars movie and the one that isn't camp

Take it, KJB!

you guys really like altman eh?

Eh, average votes in the high 30s - now Empire, that gets just short of 60!

No Star Wars on my ballot; the first film might sneak into my Top 500.

the star wars movies in order of release:

star wars
esb
the remake of star wars
the crappy remake of star wars
total garbage
boring failure
the nostalgia remake of star wars
the remake of esb
the crappy nostalgia remake of star wars

'total garbage' was indeed where i got off for good

The silent majority is speaking again.

Remake of the ESB def my favourite

Did not vote for any Star War, but obv ESB is The One if you're going to. Good world-building — the first movie really only had Tatooine in terms of giving you a fully realized setting (the Death Star is mostly anonymous hallways and one slimy trash compactor), but this one has the ice planet, Yoda's swamp planet and Lando's cloud city, all distinctive and well designed.

I’m holding out for the crappy nostalgia remake of esb (or was that Rogue One?)

I like ESB well enough, but the original is the only one that is completely free of having to pay fan service, so it's the one I find most watchable.

The Long Bad-Fakeout

i love boring failure

actually kinda does describe my taste

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ESB is relieved of the burden of a happy ending, it gets to end with everything totally fucked. It's unusual in that sense, you don't often get the big slambang popcorn epic that also leaves you bummed out. (Avengers: Infinity War obviously stole the trick.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25GKkfXJUVU

i dare any scene in esb to contend with ppl looking through windows and crying

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32. CHINATOWN (Roman Polanski, 1974, USA) [873.43 points; 14 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 73 | TSPDT: 55 | BOXD: 155

MORBS SEZ: "Chinatown is the apotheosis of the period piece commenting on contemporary sordidness and guilt … It diagnoses what's most wrong with America; when it's set, when it was made, now."

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Kind of surprised Chinatown is so loved.
― Alex in SF, Thursday, October 16, 2008 6:02 PM

Chinatown was enjoyable but I wish they'd kept Towne's original ending.
― Anthony Miccio (Anthony Miccio), Saturday, December 13, 2003 12:44 PM

if you haven't seen chinatown see chinatown
― groovy groovy jazzy funky pounce bounce dance (special guest stars mark bronson), Wednesday, February 18, 2009 4:21 AM

chinatown isn't as hilarious as zatoichi.
― RJG (RJG), Thursday, March 25, 2004 6:51 AM

All the people in Chinatown are actually Mickey Rooney in makeup.
― jaymc (jaymc), Thursday, December 15, 2005 2:34 PM

could he have still made chinatown if he HADNT sodomized a 13 yr old? im not so sure
― deej, Sunday, September 27, 2009 11:26 PM

Chinatown is all about totally unscrupulous people so being directed by Captain Rapey adds a layer; sometimes the only thing of value an ethical douchebag leaves is art.
― pow! right in the kisser (suzy), Wednesday, September 30, 2009 5:21 AM

never seen chinatown
― i like to fart and i am crazy (gbx), Thursday, April 16, 2009 2:53 PM

waht?
― the table is the table, Thursday, April 16, 2009 3:02 PM

A film that for most of its run time you think is about the merely sordid, criminal and unscrupulous, but in the final reel takes a hard swerve and crashes into a wall of pure evil. In the form of John Huston.

i'm not convinced playtime will dazzle me. but who knows

No, you are wrong about this!

I've seen 5 Altman films but neither of those that placed today. Should probably remedy that. How many films did he make? 35! I wonder if Short Cuts is yet to place.

Chinatown feels like the least auteurish of Polanski's golden period films.

As in, it is the most out of sync with his other films in the surrounding decade. It looks fantastic, but it falls a little hollow for me.

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31. DUCK SOUP (Leo McCarey, 1933, USA) [874.64 points; 14 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 265 | TSPDT: 146 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "results officially terminate after Duck Soup IS PLACED, btw"

I think one of the main things that makes them so enjoyable for me is the rapid pace of the jokes; they just spit them out constantly and if you don't think one is funny then wait for 2 seconds and another will be right up. So even if you think 1/2 the jokes are actually funny then you're still laughing the whole movie. It's like they aren't even telling jokes for the sake of an audience, they're just being the biggest wise-asses they could possibly be. Oh, and Groucho & Miss Dumont = a match made in heaven. They should've done a spinoff together.
― Adam Bruneau, Thursday, September 18, 2008 9:51 AM

For some reason last night before I went to sleep I was thinking about the end of Duck Soup when they throw tomatoes at the fat lady singing the Land of Freedonia song.
― CaptainLorax, Tuesday, August 5, 2008 4:25 PM

for Harpo at his best see the Peanut Seller scene in Duck Soup.
― Horace Mann (Horace Mann), Thursday, July 31, 2003 2:09 PM

I like the bit in "Duck Soup" when the villainous Trentino, having asked his spies (Harpo & Chico) to gather information about President Rufus T. Firely, demands "Give me his record!" Naturally, Harpo instantly produces an old record (shellac, not vinyl; big deal)from inside his coat. Trentino tosses it away in disgust, only to have Harpo then produce a shotgun and blast the airborne record into a million pieces, thereby winning one of Trentino's cigars.
― Myonga Von Bontee (Myonga Von Bontee), Monday, June 13, 2005 11:12 AM

Duck Soup is genuinely the best (if I had voted I may well have put it at #1), but I feel like Day at the Races is the most underrated Marx Brothers.
― justfanoe (Greg Fanoe), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:44 AM

I'm kind of harrumphing over the fat jokes in that last clip. Jesus, man, just how thin do you need to be to avoid that kind of shit?
― emil.y, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:46 AM

why is he being such a dick to her? why doesn't she slap him unconscious?
― Porto for Pyros (The Cursed Return of the Dastardly Thermo Thinwall), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:51 AM

she's Margaret Dumont.
― Exile in lolville (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:58 AM

It's Duck Soup...
― clemenza, Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:56 AM

100. ROSEMARY'S BABY (Roman Polanski, Roman 1968, USA) [620 points; 10 votes]
99. LA JETÉE (Chris Marker, Chris 1962, France) [623.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote; Morbs silver]
98. MY NEIGHBOUR TOTORO (Miyazaki Hayao, 1988, Japan) [623.9 points; 10 votes]
97. SEVEN SAMURAI (Kurosawa Akira, 1954, Japan) [624.67 points; 9 votes]
96. MESHES OF THE AFTERNOON (Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid, 1943, USA) [625.71 points; 7 votes]
95. SHOWGIRLS (Paul Verhoeven, 1995, USA) [628 points; 4 votes]
94. ONCE UPON A TIME IN ANATOLIA (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011, Turkey) [636 points; 6 votes]
93. ERASERHEAD (David Lynch, 1977, USA) [636.9 points; 10 votes]
92. THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972, USA) [643.4 points; 10 votes]
91. LAST YEAR AT MARIENBAD (Alain Resnais, 1961, France) [645.82 points; 11 votes]

90. MANDY (Panos Cosmatos, 2018, USA) [646.5 points; 8 votes]
89. THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Rob Reiner, 1984, USA) [650.91 points; 11 votes]
88. JOHNNY GUITAR (Nicholas Ray, 1954, USA) [651 points; 6 votes]
87. THE SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE (Victor Erice, 1973, Spain) [652 points; 8 votes]
86. A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY (Edward Yang, 1991, Taiwan) [655.5 points; 6 votes; 1 first-place vote]
85. THE LADY EVE (Preson Sturges, 1941, USA) [656.4 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
84. CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING (Jacques Rivette, 1974, France) [658.57 points; 7 votes]
83. THE KING OF COMEDY (Martin Scorsese, 1983, USA) [659.82 points; 11 votes; Morbs gold]
82. WILD STRAWBERRIES (Ingmar Bergman, 1957, Sweden) [661.5 points; 6 votes]
81. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (Frank Capra, 1946, USA) [661.63 points; 8 votes]

80. CALIFORNIA SPLIT (Robert Altman, 1974, USA) [663 points; 6 votes]
79. UNDER THE SKIN (Jonathan Glazer, 2014, UK) [665 points; 12 votes]
78. THE WICKER MAN (Robin Hardy, 1973, UK) [668.5 points; 8 votes]
77. THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY (Sergio Leone, 1966, Italy) [670 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]
76. DAISIES (Vera Chytilová, 1966, Czechoslovakia) [674.29 points; 7 votes; 1 first-place vote]
75. THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE (John Ford, 1962, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]
74. DAYS OF HEAVEN (Terrence Malick, 1978, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; 1 first-place vote]
73. BEING JOHN MALKOVICH (Spike Jonze, 1999, USA) [700.6 points; 10 votes]
72. PIERROT LE FOU (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965, France) [705 points; 6 votes]
71. MIRROR (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975, USSR) [708.38 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]

70. M (Fritz Lang, 1931, Germany) [708.67 points; 9 votes]
69. THE LIFE AND DEATH OF COLONEL BLIMP (Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger, 1943, UK) [715.71 points; 7 votes]
68. CRUMB (Terry Zwigoff, 1994, USA) [716.63 points; 8 votes]
67. PULP FICTION (Quentin Tarantino, 1994, USA) [717.5 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote]
66. TOUCH OF EVIL (Orson Welles, 1958, USA) [719.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote]
65. 3 WOMEN (Robert Altman, 1977, USA) [725.3 points; 10 votes]
64. BACK TO THE FUTURE (Robert Zemeckis, 1985, USA) [728.55 points; 11 votes]
63. ALI: FEAR EATS THE SOUL (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1974, West Germany) [729.2 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
62. THE MALTESE FALCON (John Huston, 1941, USA) [733.1 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
61. AU HASARD BALTHAZAR (Robert Bresson, 1966, France) [734.91 points; 11 votes]

60. SUNRISE: A SONG OF TWO HUMANS (F.W. Murnau, 1927, USA) [752.6 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote]
59. SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK (Charlie Kaufman, 2008, USA) [768.67 points; 9 votes]
58. GROUNDHOG DAY (Harold Ramis, 1993, USA) [772.46 points; 13 votes]
57. IMITATION OF LIFE (Douglas Sirk, 1959, USA) [774 points; 6 votes]
56. THE 400 BLOWS (François Truffaut, 1959, France) [779.33 points; 9 votes]
55. THE GRADUATE (Mike Nichols, 1967, USA) [783.33 points; 9 votes]
54. JURASSIC PARK (Steven Spielberg, 1993, USA) [786 points; 9 votes]
53. THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE (Tobe Hooper, 1974, USA) [788.13 points; 8 votes]
52. NOTORIOUS (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946, USA) [793.63 points; 8 votes]
51. PSYCHO (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960, USA) [793.75 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]

50. PERSONA (Ingmar Bergman, 1966, Sweden) [805.69 points; 13 votes; 1 first-place vote]
49. MAD MAX: FURY ROAD (George Miller, 2015, Australia) [808.73 points; 11 votes]
48. POSSESSION (Andrzej Żuławski, 1981, France-West Germany) [810 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote]
47. FARGO (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1996, USA) [811.1 points; 10 votes]
46. SPIRITED AWAY (Miyazaki Hayao, 2001, Japan) [811.27 points; 11 votes]
45. THE THING (John Carpenter, 1982, USA) [815 points; 10 votes]
44. BLUE VELVET (David Lynch, 1986, USA) [822 points; 15 votes]
43. SANS SOLEIL (Chris Marker, 1983, France) [825.25 points; 8 votes]
42. STOP MAKING SENSE (Jonathan Demme, 1984, USA) [826.7 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
41. A SERIOUS MAN (Joel & Ethan Coen, 2009, USA) [830.4 points; 15 votes]

40. THE PASSION OF JOAN OF ARC (Carl Theodor Dreyer, 1928, Denmark) [833.36 points; 14 votes; Morbs silver]
39. LATE SPRING (Ozu Yasujirō, 1949, Japan) [835.45 points; 11 votes]
38. SINGIN' IN THE RAIN (Stanley Donen & Gene Kelly, 1952, USA) [841.82 points; 11 points]
37. CONTEMPT (Jean-Luc Godard, 1963, France) [845.71 points; 7 votes]
36. PLAYTIME (Jacques Tati, 1967, France) [853.27 points; 11 votes; 1 first-place vote; Morbs silver]
35. McCABE & MRS. MILLER (Robert Altman, 1971, USA) [855.6 points; 15 votes]
34. THE LONG GOODBYE (Robert Altman, 1973, USA) [865.38 points; 16 votes; Morbs silver]
33. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (Irvin Kershner, 1980, USA) [872.2 points; 10 votes]
32. CHINATOWN (Roman Polanski, 1974, USA) [873.43 points; 14 votes; Morbs silver]
31. DUCK SOUP (Leo McCarey, 1933, USA) [874.64 points; 14 votes; Morbs silver]

The old maestro.

I voted for this, also I also used the same picture as my cover art for this, so overall I am very much on board with this one.

Who are the Margaret Dumonts of ILX?

I'd rather have Hellzapoppin', The Gang's All Here, or Stage Door with the final reel gone missing.

I AM the Margaret Dumont in my life.
― hot and brothered (Eric H.), Wednesday, April 4, 2012 8:44 AM

All good bar Empire, and I've never seen 🦆

Hell yeah Duck Soup. One of two Leo McCareys on my long list, but of course you don't really think of Duck Soup as a Leo McCarey movie first. Or I don't.

Who are the Margaret Dumonts of ILX?

Same. Which is why I didn’t say “I’d rather Make Way for Tomorrow,” which IS the greatness of McCarey incarnate

My Polanski vote was for Repulsion, a mindfuck psychological horror film. Knife In the Water was also really good

still haven’t seen The Tenant

the tenant is a step down from those two but still good

at this point wondering if Buñuel, Kiarostami, Martel, Fellini, Visconti, Akerman, Rohmer, Weerasethakul, or Varda will show up

Not so far, and I'd say the odds are thin for the Dardennes, Von Trier, Tarr, Tsai, Wenders, Antonioni, Hou (not all of whom are my picks).

yah v lowbrow

Oh btw I remembered why I put Touch Of Evil 3rd, I was just stressing out and messaged My Brother "what's the third best film of all time?" he said that and I wrote it with no further conversation. I do rate it tho.
M&MM and The Long Goodbye are surely my favourite two Altmans, in frequently alternating order, somehow California Split was my choice which yeah I think is amazing in a clemenza-film way, but baffled why I picked that ahead of these others.
Doesn't appear to be any Polanski on my ballot, which is either forgetfulness or a moral standpoint when I did it, either way it's not honesty

Morality def is dishonesty in matters like this.