ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

I love Mon Oncle, with Playtime the whimsy becomes heavy-handed and laboured. It's bad when the big scene where "everybody kicks back and gets spontaneous" looks as stilted as the rest.

Gene Kelly's smile can be terrifying, so I get plax's antipathy to a degree.

I was skeptical of Johnny Guitar based on the color of Crawford's scarf. Downhill from there. (I like it fine now).

xp
the stylization was the point though and was more alien-seeming than whimsical to me

Saw Johnny Guitar when I was doing Film Studies at uni, was not that impressed, but it was the wrong environment for enjoying films, actually the course put me off films for a good decade or so. Should revisit.

what about the film?

never revisiting that course, they made us watch laura mulvey films

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34. THE LONG GOODBYE (Robert Altman, 1973, USA) [865.38 points; 16 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 418 | TSPDT: 412 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I always forget David Carradine's cameo as Socrates the cellmate ('Someday the pigs are gonna be in here and the people are gonna be out there') … people who think this is a 'travesty' don't get it … increasingly think his two great films are Nashville & The Long Goodbye"

ALTMAN POLL
Poll Results
The Long Goodbye (1973) 12
McCabe & Mrs. Miller (1971) 12

God, I love The Long Goodbye. I can't express in words how deep my love for that film truly is.
― Nordicskillz (Nordicskillz), Tuesday, April 29, 2003 12:40 AM

I could watch it forever.
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 7:19 PM

just the greatest movie
― the clodding of the american mind (darraghmac), Friday, March 9, 2018 7:11 PM

I think this may latterly have become my favourite movie ever.
― "Taste's very strange!" (stevie), Thursday, November 30, 2017 4:39 AM

goddamn great movie. best director/best actor combined in one perfect story.
― ddd, Sunday, April 29, 2007 10:28 PM

There's one shot in The Long Goodbye--where the Russian (?) girl is waiting outside in the car for her gangster boyfriend, and as she reaches up from the back seat to turn up the radio, the camera gently tracks with her. There's something slyly humorous about that moment, where Altman is teasingly highlighting that ridiculous motif of hearing "The Long Goodbye" performed by 1,000 different singers, in the middle of one of the tensest moments in the film. I like stuff like that.
― amateurist (amateurist), Wednesday, May 7, 2003 10:28 AM

I feel this is the most accurate screen Marlowe, most like the character in the novels. Bogey be damned.
― Ask The Answer Man (sexyDancer), Saturday, March 16, 2013 7:53 PM

Movie most overrated by people with decent taste? I think both director and actor are wrong for the movie, and the song gets really tiresome after a while.
― Moo Vaughn, Thursday, March 29, 2018 11:08 AM

you guys really like altman eh?

Some days, my fave Altman. Sterling Hayden has one line reading in it that may be the funniest in cinematic history (won't spoil for those who haven't seen).

There's one shot in The Long Goodbye--where the Russian (?) girl is waiting outside in the car for her gangster boyfriend, and as she reaches up from the back seat to turn up the radio, the camera gently tracks with her. There's something slyly humorous about that moment, where Altman is teasingly highlighting that ridiculous motif of hearing "The Long Goodbye" performed by 1,000 different singers, in the middle of one of the tensest moments in the film. I like stuff like that.
― amateurist (amateurist),

otm

I personally could've for sure done without California Split in this 100, but that's the way the chips fell.

Nash-ville! Nash-ville!

Presumably yet to come.

Needless to say, Altman became the first director in the countdown to have three films ... and then immediately became the first director here to have four.

OK, so this is the '70s Altman I watched recently for the first time. Pretty good, actually. I didn't love the ending.

I liked how grimy the '70s looked.

It's true. And just about every indoor public place smelled of stale cigarette smoke.

you guys really like altman eh?

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can you even begin to imagine how much we like kubrick tho

no wait ofc you can

According to the ILX directors poll:

3. Stanley Kubrick (1920 points; 21 votes; 4 first-place votes)
12. Robert Altman (1546 points; 19 votes)

My favorite Altmans, back to back. With McCabe, honestly I think it's the set and setting that I love as much as anything else. I also like what a fundamental fuck-up McCabe is, it's an admirably non-narcissistic performance by Beatty. On the flipside, Gould's Marlowe gets knocked down a lot but he always manages to give a sense of control or at least equanimity. I don't think you could have updated noir cool more perfectly for the '70s.

kubrick is ok

i like eyes wide shut and barry lyndon

I don't watch him of my own volition.

Shining>2001>Barry>Strangelove>Paths>ACO>FMJ>EWS>Lolita imo

i like the long goodbye but there's 4-5 altmans that are better. chandler (and imitators) set after the 50s doesn't translate well.

I've only seen one Altman - yikes!

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33. THE EMPIRE STRIKES BACK (Irvin Kershner, 1980, USA) [872.2 points; 10 votes]
S&S: 613 | TSPDT: 283 | BOXD: 24

MORBS SEZ: "the original trilogy was on basic cable a few weekends ago and I couldn't take more than 30 seconds of Mark Hamill's screeching … Empire was on in a bar w/ sound off and "Linus & Lucy" from Peanuts was playing during Vder's first scene. How long did it take for Luke to traiCHRISTGETALIFE"

I recently had the experience of watching Empire with my 28 year old friend who had never seen it before. He'd only watched Star Wars for the first time a few days previously. He was mildly enthusiastic, I'd say he rated it about 6/10 by his reaction. He thought there was too much white plastic in it though.
― A brownish area with points (chap), Thursday, December 30, 2010 8:50 AM

another thing i like about "Empire" is how there is a running gag of everything they did in the first movie not working right away and having to try several times to get it right. you see this in everything from the hyperdrive to R2 being unable to open doors (which is something he did easily in SW1). there is a lot of dark humor in Empire.
― AdamVania (Adam Bruneau), Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:19 PM

something great/weird about empire is how it's always pronounced "dark SIDE" ... with the stress on the last syllable, the way english people say "hot SAUCE" or "singaPORE".
― illegal economic migration (Tracer Hand), Sunday, January 17, 2016 2:01 PM

watched Empire with my son yesterday. got a bit choked up at the part where Luke is communicating telepathically with Leia while hanging from the bottom of Cloud City.
― too young for seapunk (Moodles), Monday, May 18, 2015 9:51 AM

it pleases me to no end that The Big Sleep, Rio Bravo, The Long Goodbye, and Empire Strikes Back were all written by a lady.
― espring (amateurist), Tuesday, February 18, 2014 2:39 PM

amazingly good, lest we forget.
― chap, Wednesday, March 19, 2008 10:55 AM

i finally accepted that much of the script and acting in Empire Strikes Back is just as lame as in Episodes 1 & 2
― stevem (blueski), Saturday, June 14, 2003 2:47 PM

Rather amazing that the series' only claim to greatness -- the only reason it has any resonance -- rests on one movie (The Empire Strikes Back) directed by someone not its creator.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 27, 2011 6:15 PM

That's a load of bullshit but whatever.
― polyphonic, Monday, June 27, 2011 6:18 PM

The first Star Wars is fun, Return of the Jedi is as anonymous and terrible as any Bond film released in that era. What else remains?
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, June 27, 2011 6:21 PM

Willow!
― winoa ryder sexes creatures of the night (Shakey Mo Collier), Monday, June 27, 2011 6:22 PM

Throughout tabulation, I noted if any new incoming ballot was, quote, "an Empire Strikes Back ballot."

xp i've seen three but one of them is downton abbey episode zero which barely counts

omg CALLED IT

ew a star wars

Still stand by my comment.

The film's also beautiful to look at, and all those small, almost vestigial comic touches (R2 on tip-toes peeking into Yoga's yurt) became impossible to find in the other films.

fakeout in the mid-30s, i like it.

(i voted for revenge of the sith)

imagining Morbs rolling his eyes rn

"CHRISTGETALIFE" probably about sums it up from his corner.

one of the 2 good star wars movie and the one that isn't camp

Take it, KJB!

you guys really like altman eh?

Eh, average votes in the high 30s - now Empire, that gets just short of 60!

No Star Wars on my ballot; the first film might sneak into my Top 500.

the star wars movies in order of release:

star wars
esb
the remake of star wars
the crappy remake of star wars
total garbage
boring failure
the nostalgia remake of star wars
the remake of esb
the crappy nostalgia remake of star wars

'total garbage' was indeed where i got off for good

The silent majority is speaking again.

Remake of the ESB def my favourite

Did not vote for any Star War, but obv ESB is The One if you're going to. Good world-building — the first movie really only had Tatooine in terms of giving you a fully realized setting (the Death Star is mostly anonymous hallways and one slimy trash compactor), but this one has the ice planet, Yoda's swamp planet and Lando's cloud city, all distinctive and well designed.

I’m holding out for the crappy nostalgia remake of esb (or was that Rogue One?)

I like ESB well enough, but the original is the only one that is completely free of having to pay fan service, so it's the one I find most watchable.

The Long Bad-Fakeout

i love boring failure

actually kinda does describe my taste

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ESB is relieved of the burden of a happy ending, it gets to end with everything totally fucked. It's unusual in that sense, you don't often get the big slambang popcorn epic that also leaves you bummed out. (Avengers: Infinity War obviously stole the trick.)