ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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I marvel again at the perfection of the interior design. Example: Dorothy's apartment.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn),

Flawless and the shot at the end with the Yello Man enhances the design.

Jacques Rivette was a fan of that bit of design:

I took a long time to appreciate Lynch. In fact, I didn’t really start until Blue Velvet (1986). With Isabella Rossellini’s apartment, Lynch succeeded in creating the creepiest set in the history of cinema. And Twin Peaks, the Film is the craziest film in the history of cinema. I have no idea what happened, I have no idea what I saw, all I know is that I left the theater floating six feet above the ground.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:03 (two years ago) link

as usual rivette otm

devvvine, Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

I have trouble imagining Rivette lifting off the ground.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:04 (two years ago) link

Maybe he took a little levitation pill beforehand to help him with that.

Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link

Doesn’t really track developmentally though.

I know, it's just such an efficient burn tho.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure Rivette lifted a little upon seeing Showgirls iirc.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

I marvel again at the perfection of the interior design. Example: Dorothy's apartment.

― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, October 31, 2021 9:52 AM (twenty-one minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

something from the doc on the dvd that’s always stuck with me: david lynch microadjusting the dust bunnies underneath the chair in dorothy’s apartment, which don’t even show up on film

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link

Pretty sure Rivette lifted a little upon seeing _Showgirls_ iirc.

Heh, was trying to make a similar joke.

Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

I’d put Lost Highway in that slot for Lynch. His most (only?) going-thru-motions movie

hard disagree, but it is a rough draft for mulholland dr.

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Trying to think of one, I meant to say.

Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

Blue Velvet is perfect in every way. So exquisitely repulsive and horrifying. A high-wire act.

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Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

we've all had those Friday nights

maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

that purple-brown is the most disgusting colour.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link

His conception of 80s stand-up comedy in the BV deleted scenes might be weirder than anything in the final cut.

Chris L, Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:26 (two years ago) link

hard disagree, but it is a rough draft for mulholland dr.

I’ll buy that but still don’t rate LH, except for a few scenes.

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43. SANS SOLEIL (Chris Marker, 1983, France) [825.25 points; 8 votes]
S&S: 71 | TSPDT: 101 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "I recall liking Sans Soleil... and don't remember anything from it."

There's no other director on whose wavelength I feel more at home.
― Tarr Yang Preminger Argento Carpenter (Eric H.), Wednesday, January 17, 2018 4:42 PM

fail.
― history mayne, Friday, September 4, 2009 6:27 PM

tried to watch Sans Soleil, but it was boring and Momus-y so I had to turn it off.
― Dan I., Sunday, April 6, 2008 4:01 AM

i could watch sans soleil every day of the year
― clouds, Saturday, September 29, 2012 11:01 AM

i like the zen fry cook in "sans soleil"
― amateur!!!st (amateurist), Monday, October 25, 2004 1:34 AM

i think sans soleil is one of like three movies where ive gone back and watched the bits i fell asleep through
― plax (ico), Friday, January 21, 2011 7:12 PM

I've tried to hack Sans Soleil a couple of times but it always puts me to sleep; I ought to rectify that sometime soon.
― Simon H., Monday, July 30, 2012 12:34 PM

Man, Sans Soleil. I could watch this forever.
― pun lovin criminal (polyphonic), Thursday, September 27, 2012 1:43 AM

ha i felt like i WAS watching it forever the first time but maybe i was in a bad place.
― jed_, Thursday, September 27, 2012 3:48 AM

gygax! once told me his favorite movie was either Sans Soleil or Muriel's Wedding, I have no idea how that fits into all that.
― Steve Shasta (Steve Shasta), Thursday, March 2, 2006 11:20 PM

Sans Soleil is my favorite movie of all time.
― gygax! (gygax!), Thursday, October 21, 2004 3:31 PM

sans soleil is a romantic comedy when you think about it
― noballs (wins), Tuesday, August 12, 2014 1:48 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

Those deleted scenes are p good but it’s better they were cut, particularly the prologue scenes which are like 20 mins I think? & then you look at how perfect the opening is as a piece of storytelling/editing right up to the finding of the ear, there just is no place for those scenes

I guess we aren’t seeing IE but holding out for another lynch

siffleur’s mom (wins), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

Lol at typical NRQ post

Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Yes, but it's the invocation of Momus that's peak chef's kiss ILX there.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:34 (two years ago) link

XPs Mulholland Dr. was #1 in the different '00s polls we did, so it's definitely coming up.

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:35 (two years ago) link

Oh I forgot md doh

I love sans soleil

siffleur’s mom (wins), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

When putting in my ballot I hedged and gave Marker two slots in my top 25 (and did the same for a couple other filmmakers), adding Sans soleil. Turns out it was by a good length the more favored CM joint. I'm heartened that he's kind of got two slots in just about any top 100 nailed down.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

idgi this one at all.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

idgtoaa, rather.

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

I haven't been tracking how this poll's placers did in the earlier decade polls, but having taken a fresh look, there are definitely some surprise omissions in store.

This is the good stuff

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

sans soleil was in my top 5 iirc. cannot describe the degree to which it has influenced my work and permeated my conception of life

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 31 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

I only finally watched Sans Soleil recently (thx Criterion Channel) and loved it but I guess it hasn’t yet seeped in enough for me to have thought of it when it came to voting. I could have voted for it, though, probably should have over some of what I did. One line of the narration made me stop the movie just to write it down — “History only tastes bitter to those who expected it to be sugar-coated.”

The first minute alone contains a whole ethos.

jmm, Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:05 (two years ago) link

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42. STOP MAKING SENSE (Jonathan Demme, 1984, USA) [826.7 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 1,176 | TSPDT: 1,258 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "Demme's is my favorite concert film … i'm pretty much not a Talking Heads fan save for Stop Making Sense"

Stop Making Sense will always be one of the top 5 things I have ever experienced. Pure Joy.
― Francisco Monar (fmonar), Wednesday, June 16, 2004 9:20 AM

Stop Making Sense is pretty much perfect.
― gbx (skowly), Thursday, April 6, 2006 10:03 PM

Stop Making Sense. Easily one of the greatest concert films ever.
― nickalicious (nickalicious), Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:53 PM

I love the song in "Stop Making Sense" where Byrne dances with the floor lamp and his shadow gets thrown all over the place. Stop Making Sense rulez.
― n/a (Nick A.), Monday, September 26, 2005 9:19 AM

fat suits aren't funny? Haven't you seen Stop Making Sense?
― Anthony (Anthony F), Sunday, October 5, 2003 9:11 PM

Stop Making Sense is the best movie of '84.
― The Edge of Gloryhole (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, July 24, 2011 8:54 PM

There was a pretty hot guy in Josie. There are no hot guys in Stop Making Sense. I believe this debate has officially ended now with my stunning proof of supremecy.
― Ally, Friday, May 4, 2001 7:00 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:12 (two years ago) link

Will this be the highest placed documentary?

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:15 (two years ago) link

Oh, I also would add Sans soleil to the experimental pile for purposes of the discussion earlier.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:16 (two years ago) link

Guess my vote for Stop Making Senso will get lost in the supermarket.

Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:20 (two years ago) link

^^Take it to the JBR screen names thread

Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

Heh, knew that was coming,

Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 31 October 2021 18:36 (two years ago) link

I was just the right age to essentially discover Talking Heads via SMS, and most of its versions are my favorite versions of those songs (except the ones from Remain in Light, which I did already know from my dad’s LP). I wonder if it works now for people who don’t know the band? Would it hold anyone’s interest more than your average YouTube performance clip?

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41. A SERIOUS MAN (Joel & Ethan Coen, 2009, USA) [830.4 points; 15 votes]
S&S: 1,176 | TSPDT: 1,510 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "it's the most serious American film about Judaism I can recall since Mazursky's Enemies. Key ambiguous line: 'I didn't do anything.' … This is the film my jobless Irish Catholic ass most related to this year."

i keep thinking about this movie. the two keys for me are the opening scene -- a (fake?) folk tale, supposedly with a meaning and a lesson but providing neither really -- and the second rabbi's lesson of the goy's teeth -- ditto. who cares?. and that's the structure of the whole movie. more things happen. and then, this, and then, another thing. he has a dream. and then, the doctor calls. how does it end? it doesn't.
― goole, Wednesday, December 2, 2009 11:36 AM

This was AWESOME. The younger rabbi + "goy's teeth" sequences = every conversation I ever had with a rabbi. that peculiar kind of avuncular unhelpfulness, stories that go nowhere, etc.
― Wrinkles, I'll see you on the other side (Shakey Mo Collier), Tuesday, February 16, 2010 12:25 PM

Dybbuk, Schmybbuk: I Said "More Ham"
― M. Grissom/DeShields (jaymc), Sunday, October 18, 2009 1:18 PM

no1 is mentioning important thing: this film is hell of funny
― Greatest contributor: (history mayne), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 3:22 AM

probably my favourite cohen bros' film.
― Rave Van Donk (jim in glasgow), Saturday, February 22, 2014 11:26 PM

perfect right to the final frame. I remember watching it and thinking "oh shit how cool would it be if they just cut here" AND THEY DID. No spoilers for the yet-to-enjoy of course.
― attention vampire (MatthewK), Monday, May 15, 2017 10:28 PM

keep going, dudes, now i'll never see this fucking movie.
― by another name (amateurist), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:05 AM

everyone be quiet or amateurist will never see this :(
― sir gaga (s1ocki), Tuesday, May 11, 2010 8:50 AM

I ranked A Serious Man because for me it was like a magic trick, pulling a great movie out of thin air, as unexpected as a live rabbit pulled from a hat. It was crushingly funny and slyly true to life at the same time. Even better, the characters were foolish without ever being imbecilic, allowing for a kind of tenderness and deep understanding of the characters that's rare in a Coens' comedy. Just great stuff from start to finish. But you should have some familiarity with American jews to really appreciate everything they put in it.
― A is for (Aimless), Monday, May 15, 2017 10:15 PM

The quantum mechanics he is writing on the board in the lecture is not just bullshit symbols, so they clearly had some help, but it's wrong in quite a trivial algrebraic way. this must have been so obvious to whoever helped them that i suspect it is deliberate. Like he has gone nuts and forgotten that x - x = 0 (which is one of the mistakes). THANK GOD SOMEBODY ELSE NOTICED THIS especially since the line reading is PERFECT -- he says "bracket (pause) p squared - bracket p (pause) squared" -- so whoever coached him on the dialogue got it right -- but then he writes the wrong thing on the board! note this blackboard is part of a dream sequence -- you also see a graph labelled with an aleph and an ayin, not actually used in physics as far as I know -- so maybe we're being shown that something he thinks is substantive is actually, thanks to his mistakes, zero?
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Friday, July 15, 2011 12:04 AM

so I was totally verklempt. I don't want to spoil it for anyone but remembering the to-and-fro about the goyim neighbours, they may not have been friendly 24/7 but they did challenge the cops who came to hassle the Gopniks - and in one tiny scene you get my town, in a nutshell. School friend who went to film with me lived next door to the Meshbeshers, so we were in LOL heaven. Many of our town's stories end with a bill from that lawyer.
― viagra falls (suzy), Saturday, November 21, 2009 4:16 PM

Oh god, I miss the Lincoln Del.
― really senile old crap shit (Eric H.), Wednesday, December 2, 2009 11:16 AM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

Fred Melamed killed it in this movie, a performance for the ages.

Dan Worsley, Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

Yes!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

And so here's where we are heading into our top 40 ...

100. ROSEMARY'S BABY (Roman Polanski, Roman 1968, USA) [620 points; 10 votes]
99. LA JETÉE (Chris Marker, Chris 1962, France) [623.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote; Morbs silver]
98. MY NEIGHBOUR TOTORO (Miyazaki Hayao, 1988, Japan) [623.9 points; 10 votes]
97. SEVEN SAMURAI (Kurosawa Akira, 1954, Japan) [624.67 points; 9 votes]
96. MESHES OF THE AFTERNOON (Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid, 1943, USA) [625.71 points; 7 votes]
95. SHOWGIRLS (Paul Verhoeven, 1995, USA) [628 points; 4 votes]
94. ONCE UPON A TIME IN ANATOLIA (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011, Turkey) [636 points; 6 votes]
93. ERASERHEAD (David Lynch, 1977, USA) [636.9 points; 10 votes]
92. THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972, USA) [643.4 points; 10 votes]
91. LAST YEAR AT MARIENBAD (Alain Resnais, 1961, France) [645.82 points; 11 votes]

90. MANDY (Panos Cosmatos, 2018, USA) [646.5 points; 8 votes]
89. THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Rob Reiner, 1984, USA) [650.91 points; 11 votes]
88. JOHNNY GUITAR (Nicholas Ray, 1954, USA) [651 points; 6 votes]
87. THE SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE (Victor Erice, 1973, Spain) [652 points; 8 votes]
86. A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY (Edward Yang, 1991, Taiwan) [655.5 points; 6 votes; 1 first-place vote]
85. THE LADY EVE (Preson Sturges, 1941, USA) [656.4 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
84. CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING (Jacques Rivette, 1974, France) [658.57 points; 7 votes]
83. THE KING OF COMEDY (Martin Scorsese, 1983, USA) [659.82 points; 11 votes; Morbs gold]
82. WILD STRAWBERRIES (Ingmar Bergman, 1957, Sweden) [661.5 points; 6 votes]
81. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (Frank Capra, 1946, USA) [661.63 points; 8 votes]

80. CALIFORNIA SPLIT (Robert Altman, 1974, USA) [663 points; 6 votes]
79. UNDER THE SKIN (Jonathan Glazer, 2014, UK) [665 points; 12 votes]
78. THE WICKER MAN (Robin Hardy, 1973, UK) [668.5 points; 8 votes]
77. THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY (Sergio Leone, 1966, Italy) [670 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]
76. DAISIES (Vera Chytilová, 1966, Czechoslovakia) [674.29 points; 7 votes; 1 first-place vote]
75. THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE (John Ford, 1962, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]
74. DAYS OF HEAVEN (Terrence Malick, 1978, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; 1 first-place vote]
73. BEING JOHN MALKOVICH (Spike Jonze, 1999, USA) [700.6 points; 10 votes]
72. PIERROT LE FOU (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965, France) [705 points; 6 votes]
71. MIRROR (Andrei Tarkovsky, 1975, USSR) [708.38 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]

70. M (Fritz Lang, 1931, Germany) [708.67 points; 9 votes]
69. THE LIFE AND DEATH OF COLONEL BLIMP (Michael Powell & Emeric Pressburger, 1943, UK) [715.71 points; 7 votes]
68. CRUMB (Terry Zwigoff, 1994, USA) [716.63 points; 8 votes]
67. PULP FICTION (Quentin Tarantino, 1994, USA) [717.5 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote]
66. TOUCH OF EVIL (Orson Welles, 1958, USA) [719.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote]
65. 3 WOMEN (Robert Altman, 1977, USA) [725.3 points; 10 votes]
64. BACK TO THE FUTURE (Robert Zemeckis, 1985, USA) [728.55 points; 11 votes]
63. ALI: FEAR EATS THE SOUL (Rainer Werner Fassbinder, 1974, West Germany) [729.2 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
62. THE MALTESE FALCON (John Huston, 1941, USA) [733.1 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
61. AU HASARD BALTHAZAR (Robert Bresson, 1966, France) [734.91 points; 11 votes]

60. SUNRISE: A SONG OF TWO HUMANS (F.W. Murnau, 1927, USA) [752.6 points; 10 votes; 1 first-place vote]
59. SYNECDOCHE, NEW YORK (Charlie Kaufman, 2008, USA) [768.67 points; 9 votes]
58. GROUNDHOG DAY (Harold Ramis, 1993, USA) [772.46 points; 13 votes]
57. IMITATION OF LIFE (Douglas Sirk, 1959, USA) [774 points; 6 votes]
56. THE 400 BLOWS (François Truffaut, 1959, France) [779.33 points; 9 votes]
55. THE GRADUATE (Mike Nichols, 1967, USA) [783.33 points; 9 votes]
54. JURASSIC PARK (Steven Spielberg, 1993, USA) [786 points; 9 votes]
53. THE TEXAS CHAIN SAW MASSACRE (Tobe Hooper, 1974, USA) [788.13 points; 8 votes]
52. NOTORIOUS (Alfred Hitchcock, 1946, USA) [793.63 points; 8 votes]
51. PSYCHO (Alfred Hitchcock, 1960, USA) [793.75 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]

50. PERSONA (Ingmar Bergman, 1966, Sweden) [805.69 points; 13 votes; 1 first-place vote]
49. MAD MAX: FURY ROAD (George Miller, 2015, Australia) [808.73 points; 11 votes]
48. POSSESSION (Andrzej Żuławski, 1981, France-West Germany) [810 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote]
47. FARGO (Joel & Ethan Coen, 1996, USA) [811.1 points; 10 votes]
46. SPIRITED AWAY (Miyazaki Hayao, 2001, Japan) [811.27 points; 11 votes]
45. THE THING (John Carpenter, 1982, USA) [815 points; 10 votes]
44. BLUE VELVET (David Lynch, 1986, USA) [822 points; 15 votes]
43. SANS SOLEIL (Chris Marker, 1983, France) [825.25 points; 8 votes]
42. STOP MAKING SENSE (Jonathan Demme, 1984, USA) [826.7 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]
41. A SERIOUS MAN (Joel & Ethan Coen, 2009, USA) [830.4 points; 15 votes]

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

i've seen it claimed that a serious man is about how judaism doesn't have answers to modern moral questions. is this what people get out of it? it just seemed like a shaggy dog story to me.

adam t. (abanana), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link

the people who claimed that are blockheads who should be banned from watching anything but Marvel movies and cartoons.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

Stop Making Sense and A Serious Man were both on my list, doubling my representation so far - I'll be amazed if I make it to 10

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:46 (two years ago) link

Left the Coens off my ballot entirely because I knew they'd be plenty high enough without my help, but Fargo and A Serious Man are my two favorites.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link

Will this be the highest placed documentary?

― Dan Worsley,

SMS is a documentary?

Heavy Messages (jed_), Sunday, 31 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link

It's a rockumentary!

Andrew Farrell, Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link

Inside Llewyn Davis has quietly become my favourite Coens but loved A Serious Man.

Vanishing Point (Chinaski), Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:06 (two years ago) link

I probably voted for 4 or 5 Coen's, but A Serious Man wasn't one of them, largely owing to the fact that I've still only seen it once.

Gotta add Possession and Sans Soleil to my watchlist from this weekend's entries.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link

The only other Zulawski I've seen besides Possession is <i>On the Silver Globe,</i> one of the most unrelenting movies I've ever seen in a theater; people screaming for 3 hours on an alien planet.

Chris L, Sunday, 31 October 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link

I've only seen Possession once and need at least one more viewing to sort out thoughts about it. It sure is something. Thought of it while watching Titane this weekend, how much Cannes loves those extreme performances.


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