xp anyway, Fargo is great but not in my top 5 Coens. I am hoping there will be at least 2 more though starting to get to that point of explicit awareness that each inclusion is bumping something big out
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:16 (four years ago)
Lavator, don't listen to Soto. Poptimism absolutely exists if only by virtue of him saying it doesn't.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:18 (four years ago)
If you view poptimism as a lack of snobbery - an absence rather than a presence - a willingness to view Mad Max on the same terms as Murnau - then maybe it becomes more of a palatable concept here
― imago, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:20 (four years ago)
If we're gunna port over music terminology I want to hear what the Poppy Bush Interzone films are
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:23 (four years ago)
Heathers and Pump Up the Volume. Probably also Turner & Hooch and Tango & Cash but I never saw them.
― Kevin John Bozelka, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:26 (four years ago)
― Kevin John Bozelka,
Okay. It does exist.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:29 (four years ago)
ok this sounds sick. i might sign up for Metrograph just to see it, since it's available... nowhere else? NV, where did u find it?
sorry i'm late. i have the Bluray
this was very funny and gave great architecture
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:33 (four years ago)
rockism is not akin to liking old european experimental art movies, because classic rock and its modern imitators are in no way the same as experimental / art music, also there is nothing in music really equivalent to either marvel superhero movies or generic Oscar bait, thank god.but also, there is an anti-intellectual suspicion about art cinema now which I didn't feel in the 90s (when for example channel 4 would have a week-long Louis Malle season), it's a related dynamic but also a very different one & worth examining if it isn't too depressing.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:45 (four years ago)
Rockism is the IMDB chart
― jmm, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:47 (four years ago)
So movie rockism is The Shawshank Redemption tunnelling into a human face forever?
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:51 (four years ago)
This thread is fine but it’s nowhere near the top 100 ILX threads about rockism, sorry.
― Alba, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:53 (four years ago)
Surely in this analogy Marveletc is equivalent to imagobait widdlywiddlywoo soulless microtonal rubbish, like "look at the technique involved in this CGI bullshit" to what purpose, I ask ye?
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:54 (four years ago)
fie upon thee
― imago, Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:55 (four years ago)
I kinda play film snob for laughs a bit but tbh the choices on this poll that I roll my eyes at I'm not eye rolling because they're popular movies or whatever
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:59 (four years ago)
xxp if idk poppy was a cultural phenomenon with as much time, money, attention and reach as marvel, then, no sorry that still doesn't work at all.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 October 2021 19:59 (four years ago)
But my pop canon would have Legally Blonde and Mean Girls and The Hidden and stuff that is fun not like big steamrollery spectacle movies that are like theme park rides and just slide straight off me without any engagement whatsoever
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:01 (four years ago)
Ten Things I Hate About You would make my list today.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:02 (four years ago)
Like it's fine summer blockbusters exist and we all like different stuff just a lot of that is increasingly not my thing as I get old and curmudgeonly
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:03 (four years ago)
I have a feeling I completely neglected comedy in my ballot
― siffleur’s mom (wins), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:03 (four years ago)
Those of you not exposed to Film4 and Empire magazine may not appreciate the murderous ennui they stoke in me
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:05 (four years ago)
Oh gods Clueless better turn up on this list ffs
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:07 (four years ago)
I'm pretty sure >20 of my 25 are funny at points, definitely >15. There's one Kim Ki-Duk film I put at 13 that I have no specific memory of but I'm assuming it wasn't a barrel of laughs
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:08 (four years ago)
I have quite a few comedies on my ballot, but none made in my lifetime.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:09 (four years ago)
Actually maybe 18
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:10 (four years ago)
I think using Comedy as a genre label maybe poses unique problems, lots of films are funny but evoking laughter isn't their primary goal maybe? Lots of laughs in Hitchcock or Bunuel for example
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:13 (four years ago)
Like out of the ones that have placed, mind the motel guy in Touch Of Evil? and the way the others start imitating his Autistic bouncing? (haven't actually watched in years so maybe I misremember) maybe ableist bullying decades on but that is definitely improved attempt at humour
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:13 (four years ago)
Not having to decide whether I could include Problem Child 2 with a clear conscience was one excuse for not putting a ballot together
Sorry for my rambling but as well this thread as another
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:15 (four years ago)
Fury Road and Persona both on my long list. I think Fury Road is an astonishing piece of filmmaking and myth-making both. Persona I haven't seen in years so I'm mostly going on how much it affected me 20 years ago, but I know it was mesmerizing then.
Had no Coens on my list. Fargo was my favorite of theirs for a good while, it's very entertaining and Frances McDormand is great. But these days I'd take Inside Llewyn Davis, A Serious Man and True Grit over it. (NOT No Country for Old Men, which I'm sure is ahead somewhere.)
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:22 (four years ago)
Actually it's just occurred to me that my elegy for Morbs would be Dietrichs's line at the end of of TOE: "he was some kind of man... what does it matter what people say?", maybe that's why I put it high?
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:25 (four years ago)
(or maybe I just watched it the night I wrote the ballot, I dunno)
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:26 (four years ago)
*hurls himself into fetid river*
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:31 (four years ago)
awwww
― imago, Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:31 (four years ago)
― Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:34 (four years ago)
― Fine, Fine, Superfine Career Opportunities (James Redd and the Blecchs), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:35 (four years ago)
I think using Comedy as a genre label maybe poses unique problems
I have just the thread for you: TOP 100 COMEDY FILMS OF ALL TIME NOMINATIONS AND DISCUSSION THREAD
― clemenza, Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:37 (four years ago)
Here's another bullet I took for you, pardner.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:37 (four years ago)
https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/046-spirited-away.jpg46. SPIRITED AWAY (Miyazaki Hayao, 2001, Japan) [811.27 points; 11 votes]S&S: 222 | TSPDT: 159 | BOXD: 10
MORBS SEZ: "I've only seen Spirited Away before [The Wind Rises]."this might be controversial but I find his movies pretty hit-or-miss, tho obv the greats are outstanding― Simon H., Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:19 PM I might go for Miyazaki as best living director. He feels like the kind of artist who will stay timeless.― jmm, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:21 PM Miyazaki does nothing for me. I've tried many times. Probably should again. Never been able to make it thru any of his films.― flappy bird, Wednesday, January 17, 2018 12:40 PM I saw Spirited Away in the theater, and it was my first Miyazaki, so it's hard not to love it - especially since it felt like one of the first truly immersive animated films I'd seen yet. I didn't want it to end, and it felt like I had spent days inside it.― Girolamo Savonarola, Sunday, August 31, 2008 6:19 PM Am I the only one who's intensely annoyed by the music of Spirited Away?― Turangalila, Sunday, August 9, 2009 7:43 PM he's so careful w/ antagonists, at least in his more recent period. either they have good reasons or they're honest within fairy-tale-style rules or they don't exist at all. i love how spirited away is mostly a movie about a girl who gets a job: dealing with weird customers, bitching with co-workers after hours, hating the boss but eventually understanding she has a business to run.― my Sonicare toothbrush (difficult listening hour), Sunday, July 3, 2011 1:51 PM If you try to describe the plot of Spirited Away to someone, they will think you're smoking crack.― Ernest P. (ernestp), Wednesday, July 2, 2003 8:37 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:40 (four years ago)
I love this film so much and fuiud
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:45 (four years ago)
This isn't one of the three animated films I toplisted, but I'm glad we have animated representation, and this movie really does bang iirc (I was about...lol, 17)
(Disney excluded from all the above obv #rockism)
― imago, Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:45 (four years ago)
SPIRITED AWAY is a boring, bad movie.― .ada.m. (nordicskilla)
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:46 (four years ago)
It is so rich, so inventive, so beautiful and full of wonders
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:46 (four years ago)
Yes. And makes no sense. It's bat shit in the best way.
Also: most poignant evocation of Edward Hopper ethos.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:54 (four years ago)
No way I was gunna actually vote for this cus it is PAINFUL, like literally hurts my heart to think about it. Family shit and such, can we not just move on?
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 20:55 (four years ago)
if you mean personal bad connotations, sorry
if you're questioning it as a movie, not at all sorry
― maybe these baps are legends (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:01 (four years ago)
Afraid to think what Grave of the Fireflies would do to you.
― Chris L, Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:02 (four years ago)
uh yeah to both of those, too much shit that hurts my chest
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:05 (four years ago)
Actually GOTF no, I love that it is heartwarming and I think I've forced it on my extended family at Christmas, which one am I thinking of, the one where they all die in a nuke, that one upsets me Watership Down/ Plague Dogs level
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:08 (four years ago)
Dammit that is the one I was thinking fucksake
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:09 (four years ago)
Barefoot Jin?
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:09 (four years ago)
What's the one with the homeless thruple at Christmas? that was great
― The Speak Of The Mearns (Jonathan Hellion Mumble), Saturday, 30 October 2021 21:10 (four years ago)