of course, you've seen Léaud's Audition for The 400 Blows but in case you haven't:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULovABBn2ds
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link
I don't know if this sounds weird, but Léaud was an unusually beautiful, austere young man. I find it hard squaring those virtues with the Doinel he played just a few years later. He looked hollowed out, callo.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link
Also: I can't recommend Mark Harris' Nichols bio more strongly.
https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/054-jurassic-park.jpg
54. JURASSIC PARK (Steven Spielberg, 1993, USA) [786 points; 9 votes]S&S: DNP | TSPDT: 720 | BOXD: DNP
MORBS SEZ: "you ppl are pop-proctologists nonpareil, God save you … I saw it once, and thought all the accomplishments were technical, aside from Goldblum's meta japery."get with the millennium morbs, we like jurassic park― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, January 29, 2016 4:02 PMHas there ever been an ILX poll of Spielberg's films from Duel to Jurassic Park--before he became an artist?― clemenza, Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:23 PMJurassic Park a towering technical and marketing achievement but heartless.― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:07 PMI don't actually like Jurassic Park at ALL but Jeff Goldblum dresses fantastically in it so I'll give it a little bit of a pass (THAT FINAL SHOT OF THE T-REX AND THE RAPTORS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST SHOT IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF CINEMATOGRAPHY AND DIRECTION AND THAT IS A STONE COLD FACT PEOPLE).― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:38 AMI think there are highlights t/o Spielberg's filmography, so i wouldn't want to press the argument too hard. IMO Jurassic Park, Catch Me if You Can, War of the Worlds... these are all peaks of one kind or another. Jurassic Park may be the most emblematic Spielberg achievement.― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, February 20, 2015 3:15 PM really enjoyed "Jurassic Park" but the whole "I know this operating system... it's a UNIX system!" thing killed me with lols and came perilously close to throwing me out of the entire movie.― DJP, Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:56 AMall yall complaining about bad hacking scenes in skyfall need to appreciate the master of bad hacking scenes in jurassic park― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:52 AMSLJ smoking in Jurassic Park was one of the last times we saw anyone do it (a) indoors (b) in front of children― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:45 PMman what a great movie.― ethan, Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:00 PMlove this shit― and what, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:29 PMethan wtf is up with your habit of reviving your own threads just to go "yup, i still agree with myself."― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:42 PM
get with the millennium morbs, we like jurassic park― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, January 29, 2016 4:02 PM
Has there ever been an ILX poll of Spielberg's films from Duel to Jurassic Park--before he became an artist?― clemenza, Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:23 PM
Jurassic Park a towering technical and marketing achievement but heartless.― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:07 PM
I don't actually like Jurassic Park at ALL but Jeff Goldblum dresses fantastically in it so I'll give it a little bit of a pass (THAT FINAL SHOT OF THE T-REX AND THE RAPTORS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST SHOT IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF CINEMATOGRAPHY AND DIRECTION AND THAT IS A STONE COLD FACT PEOPLE).― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:38 AM
I think there are highlights t/o Spielberg's filmography, so i wouldn't want to press the argument too hard. IMO Jurassic Park, Catch Me if You Can, War of the Worlds... these are all peaks of one kind or another. Jurassic Park may be the most emblematic Spielberg achievement.― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, February 20, 2015 3:15 PM
really enjoyed "Jurassic Park" but the whole "I know this operating system... it's a UNIX system!" thing killed me with lols and came perilously close to throwing me out of the entire movie.― DJP, Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:56 AM
all yall complaining about bad hacking scenes in skyfall need to appreciate the master of bad hacking scenes in jurassic park― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:52 AM
SLJ smoking in Jurassic Park was one of the last times we saw anyone do it (a) indoors (b) in front of children― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:45 PM
man what a great movie.― ethan, Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:00 PM
love this shit― and what, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:29 PM
ethan wtf is up with your habit of reviving your own threads just to go "yup, i still agree with myself."― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:42 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
Feel like maybe JPL grew tired of playing that particular character, but perhaps just projecting.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link
He was often solid (Morbs and I loved The Death of Louis XIV) but he lost the glow -- the uniqueness -- after 400 Blows.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link
Surprised to see this, there’s a good half dozen Spielberg films I’d rate higher and I expect a couple will definitely place.
― Dan Worsley, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link
Fair enough, but he was well used by Godard and Eustache, and then later by Assayas and Kaurismäki or Bertolucci, to name several.(xp)
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link
Maybe someone could make a claim that all those other roles were comments upon his first character and director.
yeah this is a strange and disappointing choice
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
You voters were so preoccupied with whether or not you could vote for Jurassic Park...
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link
So it was one of the sanctioned nominees? Dang!
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, October 29, 2021 2:38 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length)
The Joe Biden of Spielberg films.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link
So not likely we see Munich any time soon, I suppose.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link
Oh, yeah. Oooh, aaah. That's how polls always start. Then later there's running and screaming.
― Chris L, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link
jurassic park is a fun movie
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
so much fun
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link
Never saw it until recently streamed it with a 9-year old. He was the perfect age for it I think. I find it baffling that this is considered top tier Spielberg.
― o. nate, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link
I mean just in terms of soulless action and special effects wizardry I think it pales in comparison to say "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", but that sort of thing is not really my cup of tea.
― o. nate, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
King shit
― xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link
Chris L otm.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link
the people have spoken, Jurassic Park is the #1 film of all time
― Karl Malone, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link
...and the Golden Boys (xp)
finally a good movie
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link
There are many aspects to film mastery, and dinosaurs are one of the most neglected.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link
The only 90s action flick I'm rooting for is The Wrong Trousers
― imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
don't think i would have voted for jurassic park in a spielberg poll, let alone this one. it slaps though
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
Wouldn't vote for it, but I can't deny that it's in my DNA.
― jmm, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
i would like to point out
raw point totals + (average points per vote x 3) + (number of votes x 10)
Prior to weighting, ballots' top 25 got from 100 points down to 76 points (or 88 points if unranked), and the honorable mentions all received 20 points.
the (number of votes x 10) part just gives every vote 10 more points, so a #1 movie = 110 points, etc.
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
Jurassic Park was mind-blowing when I was 9.
― jmm, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
there are dinosaurs, they're in a park, whoa!!! perfect, five stars
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link
the only spielberg i voted for was a.i. and i am already bitter that it won't place
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (thirty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink
this feels fair
how many coens do we think will place btw
― imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
The Golden Age of Film is Number Nine, Number Nine, Number Nine...
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link
xp2, joel and ethan
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
Stencil and Trife?
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link
Oh wait, sorry. Mods!
Sure, but that doesn't get included in the 'average points per vote' calculation, so you get a weird effect where for a given vote total, the boost is higher at high and low numbers of voters than it is in the middle.
I'm guessing that Once Upon a Time in Anatolia was just outside the 100 on unweighted count, and Showgirls was waaay outside?
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
Yes, I believe those were the two that got bumped in based on neither having (to my knowledge) any "honorable mention" votes.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
And yes, I wanted to tilt the balance a bit more toward passion than respect.
the average points part gives more boost to films with a low number of votes since it's essentially 3 extra votes for everything.
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
Um, I gave the image the "hope" color scheme for a reason.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
i thought it was a discoballasaurus
― adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link
I gave Anatolia a longlist vote so that's not true! xps
― imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
Some of us reacting now to Jurassic Park being the new de facto Spielberg center-of-gravity the same way Dwight MacDonald reacted to positive reviews of The Birds.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
xp fair enough; you might have been the only one then ... for sure Showgirls had only super high votes
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link
Yeah, but that interacts with the other effect you mentioned, where high numbers of votes means more bonus 10s.
800 points unweighted across 10 voters comes to 1140 points, across 15 voters comes to 1110 points, across 20 voters comes to 1120. Which are obviously not big deals, just mathematically interesting.
If there's any filmmakers out there watching us tonight wondering how to game the system, my advice is to pay this no mind, and just add more dinosaurs.
― Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link
JP too low obv, spielberg’s most personal film.
― difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
xp let's see if that advice worked for Tree of Life.
― Chris L, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link
Toy Story has a dinosaur...
― imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link