ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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of course, you've seen Léaud's Audition for The 400 Blows but in case you haven't:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ULovABBn2ds

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:18 (two years ago) link

I don't know if this sounds weird, but Léaud was an unusually beautiful, austere young man. I find it hard squaring those virtues with the Doinel he played just a few years later. He looked hollowed out, callo.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

Also: I can't recommend Mark Harris' Nichols bio more strongly.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

https://cansesclasseled.files.wordpress.com/2021/10/054-jurassic-park.jpg

54. JURASSIC PARK (Steven Spielberg, 1993, USA) [786 points; 9 votes]
S&S: DNP | TSPDT: 720 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "you ppl are pop-proctologists nonpareil, God save you … I saw it once, and thought all the accomplishments were technical, aside from Goldblum's meta japery."

get with the millennium morbs, we like jurassic park
― denies the existence of dark matter (difficult listening hour), Friday, January 29, 2016 4:02 PM

Has there ever been an ILX poll of Spielberg's films from Duel to Jurassic Park--before he became an artist?
― clemenza, Tuesday, January 30, 2018 5:23 PM

Jurassic Park a towering technical and marketing achievement but heartless.
― Alderweireld Horses (darraghmac), Thursday, February 1, 2018 6:07 PM

I don't actually like Jurassic Park at ALL but Jeff Goldblum dresses fantastically in it so I'll give it a little bit of a pass (THAT FINAL SHOT OF THE T-REX AND THE RAPTORS IS THE ABSOLUTE WORST SHOT IN THE ENTIRE HISTORY OF CINEMATOGRAPHY AND DIRECTION AND THAT IS A STONE COLD FACT PEOPLE).
― Allyzay knows a little German (allyzay), Thursday, July 28, 2005 9:38 AM

I think there are highlights t/o Spielberg's filmography, so i wouldn't want to press the argument too hard. IMO Jurassic Park, Catch Me if You Can, War of the Worlds... these are all peaks of one kind or another. Jurassic Park may be the most emblematic Spielberg achievement.
― I dunno. (amateurist), Friday, February 20, 2015 3:15 PM

really enjoyed "Jurassic Park" but the whole "I know this operating system... it's a UNIX system!" thing killed me with lols and came perilously close to throwing me out of the entire movie.
― DJP, Thursday, June 30, 2011 8:56 AM

all yall complaining about bad hacking scenes in skyfall need to appreciate the master of bad hacking scenes in jurassic park
― Philip Nunez, Tuesday, November 20, 2012 11:52 AM

SLJ smoking in Jurassic Park was one of the last times we saw anyone do it (a) indoors (b) in front of children
― the little prince of inane false binary hype (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, November 20, 2012 4:45 PM

man what a great movie.
― ethan, Tuesday, January 15, 2002 7:00 PM

love this shit
― and what, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:29 PM

ethan wtf is up with your habit of reviving your own threads just to go "yup, i still agree with myself."
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:42 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

Feel like maybe JPL grew tired of playing that particular character, but perhaps just projecting.

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

He was often solid (Morbs and I loved The Death of Louis XIV) but he lost the glow -- the uniqueness -- after 400 Blows.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

Surprised to see this, there’s a good half dozen Spielberg films I’d rate higher and I expect a couple will definitely place.

Dan Worsley, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:35 (two years ago) link

Fair enough, but he was well used by Godard and Eustache, and then later by Assayas and Kaurismäki or Bertolucci, to name several.(xp)

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

Maybe someone could make a claim that all those other roles were comments upon his first character and director.

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:37 (two years ago) link

yeah this is a strange and disappointing choice

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

You voters were so preoccupied with whether or not you could vote for Jurassic Park...

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:45 (two years ago) link

So it was one of the sanctioned nominees? Dang!

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

yeah this is a strange and disappointing choice

― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Friday, October 29, 2021 2:38 PM (nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

You voters were so preoccupied with whether or not you could vote for Jurassic Park...

― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length)

The Joe Biden of Spielberg films.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:48 (two years ago) link

So not likely we see Munich any time soon, I suppose.

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

Oh, yeah. Oooh, aaah. That's how polls always start. Then later there's running and screaming.

Chris L, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:53 (two years ago) link

jurassic park is a fun movie

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link

so much fun

Heavy Messages (jed_), Friday, 29 October 2021 18:55 (two years ago) link

Never saw it until recently streamed it with a 9-year old. He was the perfect age for it I think. I find it baffling that this is considered top tier Spielberg.

o. nate, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:57 (two years ago) link

I mean just in terms of soulless action and special effects wizardry I think it pales in comparison to say "Indiana Jones and the Temple of Doom", but that sort of thing is not really my cup of tea.

o. nate, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

ethan wtf is up with your habit of reviving your own threads just to go "yup, i still agree with myself."
― Alex in Baltimore, Friday, May 11, 2007 2:42 PM

King shit

xyzzzz__, Friday, 29 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

Chris L otm.

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

the people have spoken, Jurassic Park is the #1 film of all time

Karl Malone, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

...and the Golden Boys (xp)

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:00 (two years ago) link

finally a good movie

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

There are many aspects to film mastery, and dinosaurs are one of the most neglected.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:01 (two years ago) link

The only 90s action flick I'm rooting for is The Wrong Trousers

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

don't think i would have voted for jurassic park in a spielberg poll, let alone this one. it slaps though

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

Wouldn't vote for it, but I can't deny that it's in my DNA.

jmm, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

i would like to point out

raw point totals + (average points per vote x 3) + (number of votes x 10)

Prior to weighting, ballots' top 25 got from 100 points down to 76 points (or 88 points if unranked), and the honorable mentions all received 20 points.

the (number of votes x 10) part just gives every vote 10 more points, so a #1 movie = 110 points, etc.

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

Jurassic Park was mind-blowing when I was 9.

jmm, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

there are dinosaurs, they're in a park, whoa!!! perfect, five stars

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

the only spielberg i voted for was a.i. and i am already bitter that it won't place

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

don't think i would have voted for jurassic park in a spielberg poll, let alone this one. it slaps though

― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:02 (thirty-four seconds ago) bookmarkflaglink

this feels fair

how many coens do we think will place btw

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

The Golden Age of Film is Number Nine, Number Nine, Number Nine...

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:04 (two years ago) link

xp
2, joel and ethan

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link

Stencil and Trife?

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

Oh wait, sorry. Mods!

Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

the (number of votes x 10) part just gives every vote 10 more points, so a #1 movie = 110 points, etc.

Sure, but that doesn't get included in the 'average points per vote' calculation, so you get a weird effect where for a given vote total, the boost is higher at high and low numbers of voters than it is in the middle.

I'm guessing that Once Upon a Time in Anatolia was just outside the 100 on unweighted count, and Showgirls was waaay outside?

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

Yes, I believe those were the two that got bumped in based on neither having (to my knowledge) any "honorable mention" votes.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

And yes, I wanted to tilt the balance a bit more toward passion than respect.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

the average points part gives more boost to films with a low number of votes since it's essentially 3 extra votes for everything.

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

The Joe Biden of Spielberg films.

Um, I gave the image the "hope" color scheme for a reason.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link

i thought it was a discoballasaurus

adam t. (abanana), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link

I gave Anatolia a longlist vote so that's not true! xps

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

Some of us reacting now to Jurassic Park being the new de facto Spielberg center-of-gravity the same way Dwight MacDonald reacted to positive reviews of The Birds.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link

xp fair enough; you might have been the only one then ... for sure Showgirls had only super high votes

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Friday, 29 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link

the average points part gives more boost to films with a low number of votes since it's essentially 3 extra votes for everything.

Yeah, but that interacts with the other effect you mentioned, where high numbers of votes means more bonus 10s.

800 points unweighted across 10 voters comes to 1140 points, across 15 voters comes to 1110 points, across 20 voters comes to 1120. Which are obviously not big deals, just mathematically interesting.

If there's any filmmakers out there watching us tonight wondering how to game the system, my advice is to pay this no mind, and just add more dinosaurs.

Andrew Farrell, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:26 (two years ago) link

JP too low obv, spielberg’s most personal film.

difficult listening hour, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link

xp let's see if that advice worked for Tree of Life.

Chris L, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:30 (two years ago) link

Toy Story has a dinosaur...

imago, Friday, 29 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link


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