ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

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omar little otm

i voted for this one

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:33 (two years ago) link

i have butch cassidy on my list and not tGood, tBad, a tUgly, wtf

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

Wicker Man is more like a comedy to me … nothing remotely scary/horrifying about it
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:47 AM

this has always been my experience w/this one as well, i try & try to be scared by it but the camp is just too much for me... scene after scene of that guy getting apoplectic over people drinking alcohol and singing folk songs, and then they torch him... its high regard as a legit scary movie has always baffled me

nobody like my rap (One Eye Open), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:40 (two years ago) link

I love it but don't find it scary at all

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:42 (two years ago) link

scary is a strong word, but i do find the enthusiastic cultishness of the summerilse community eerie, even as (or maybe especially as) i root for the death of the prude

karl...arlk...rlka...lkar..., Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:47 (two years ago) link

didn't vote at all but 'meshes' + 'mulholland drive' = perfectly apposite short + a feature combo

― donna rouge, Monday, October 25, 2021 11:21 AM

Delivered! From the Criterion Channel November titles announcement:

Short + Feature: Trance-Formers
Meshes of the Afternoon and Mulholland Dr.
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 9
Two giants of the American avant-garde speak through the language of the subconscious in a pair of surrealist masterpieces set in the shadow of the Hollywood dream factory.

Profiles in Liquid Courage (WmC), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

sorry, can't make that showing, i have a poll to read

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 16:59 (two years ago) link

whoa whos out there lurking show urself

mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:17 (two years ago) link

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76. DAISIES (Vera Chytilová, 1966, Czechoslovakia) [674.29 points; 7 votes; 1 first-place vote]
S&S: 297 | TSPDT: 292 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "8/10"

It is truly a great work of art, almost certainly the best of the Czech New Wave. Though in recent years I have grown increasingly irritable with people who don't realise/don't want to realise that its superficial absurdist joy masks deeper messages.
― emil.y, Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:44 PM

i doubt i'll ever figure out what half of it 'means' in any literal sense, but such a great, fun, bracing, life-affirming experience.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:51 PM

daisies is fun, but it can be tiring.
― sarahel, Friday, August 20, 2010 9:39 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:19 (two years ago) link

That photo gives me '70s food nightmares.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

TOO LOW

siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:24 (two years ago) link

Surprised (and happy) to see California Split. The Long Goodbye and 3 Women will place higher, and guessing Nashville won't. I left Altman off my list, just to break age-old habits.

clemenza, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:29 (two years ago) link

Never even heard of Daisies!

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:30 (two years ago) link

Daisies is the Daphne and Celeste of surrealist Czech cinema. It's a wonderfully annoying riot and I hope I voted for it.

tangent x (tangenttangent), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

really into Czech films and shamefully have never heard of Daisies, will check it out asap

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

TOO LOW

otm. In my top 20! I love this movie. Rewatched it a few years ago, was still charmed and surprised. (And I agree the whole thing has an implicit dark side, its anarchy is a reaction to oppression.)

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:40 (two years ago) link

...and the anarchy is also condemned as self-indulgence on the part of the main characters, it's not just a celebration of making a mess.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:44 (two years ago) link

The director actually got into trouble with Czech authorities for depicting wasting food and it set back her career.

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:51 (two years ago) link

Or that was the pretext, anyway.

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 17:54 (two years ago) link

daisies is dope

STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

hope we get at least one more Czech film

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:25 (two years ago) link

Gahhhhh, forgot to put the Morbs silver medal on The Good, The Bad, and the Ugly. Just imagine it's there.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

Onto another gold medalist....

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

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75. THE MAN WHO SHOT LIBERTY VALANCE (John Ford, 1962, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; Morbs gold]
S&S: 120 | TSPDT: 93 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "Perhaps the best 'career summation' by a major filmmaker … being a Man of Civilization has its price."

The Man Who Shot Liberty Valence is high in the running for best western film of all time. It puts Shane to shame.
― the unappreciated charisma of cows (Aimless), Monday, November 2, 2020 3:02 PM

Wonderful performance from Wayne, but what a sad ending. Stewart's character has been a good man throughout the film, yet is left with a sense of unfulfilment.
― the pinefox, Tuesday, April 12, 2011 10:01 AM

oh you do not need to see very much ford, honestly. man who shot liberty valance is fucking great tho.
― ghost rider, Wednesday, April 11, 2007 10:33 AM

I recently watched Man Who Shot Liberty Valence... well, ok, there are like 50 racially awkward scenes in every John Ford movie, but the one that really stood out in my mind is when the attorney is teaching the class about the Declaration of Independence and the black guy blanks out on the part about "all men are created equal." Fuck off, John Ford.
― A-ron Hubbard (Hurting), Thursday, January 11, 2007 9:02 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:28 (two years ago) link

My two favourite Westerns show up on the same day!

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

I too can imagine this being my favorite western and maybe one of my favorite movies period once I've gained another 20 or so years.

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

What a strange way of calling me old!

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:47 (two years ago) link

unused MORBS SEZ (because it was more about Ford as a whole) from the ILX directors poll:

"who are the 27 clowns who don't think Ford is one of the 50 best filmmakers, Christ on a cracker"

followed almost immediately by:

"i really don't get ulcers over what a bunch of ahistorical anime wankers pull out of their hairless butts"

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

Hoping that's all the John Wayne westerns to show up

ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link

What about all the John Waters westerns?

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

Fine by me

ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:10 (two years ago) link

I voted for this and it did make me feel old tbh.

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link

Still, Daisies followed by this; that's variety.

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link

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74. DAYS OF HEAVEN (Terrence Malick, 1978, USA) [683.63 points; 8 votes; 1 first-place vote]
S&S: 121 | TSPDT: 152 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "wd've been much better as a silent … his most overrated. needs a fan cut with music and intertitles, no dialogue"

overblown poesy. Attractively attired doggerel.
― gypsy mothra (gypsy mothra), Monday, December 5, 2005 8:08 PM

"Days Of Heaven" is ALL surface in a way that few films actually are. It's an achievement of some kind, but not necessarily that great for an audience.
― @d@ml (nordicskilla), Friday, January 2, 2004 6:06 PM

all films should be "all surface"
― amateur!!st, Wednesday, September 29, 2004 1:27 AM

i think it was pretty (definitely NOT the prettiest movie ever, maybe because nothing in it is ugly, stupid as that sounds) but i got tired of it always being in the late afternoon. the story was incredibly weak, the little girl was charming but unconvincing at times (too charming), i've just realized i don't think anyone in the movie had a name! i wasn't sure about the way-close-up nature shots (plants growing, locusts eating). didn't work for me. also i think the music was wrong for the movie. there were just things that didn't belong, too obsessed with prettiness. yes, all surface! no amateurist i don't think all films should be all surface but who am i to argue.
i would watch this again, if i had to, though.
― caitlin oh no (caitxa1), Monday, December 5, 2005 7:42 PM

By European sensibility, I just meant the pacing of his films. Outside of the famous car chase in Days of Heaven, they tend to be slow.
― clemenza, Saturday, June 5, 2010 12:43 PM (eleven years ago)

theres a car chase in days of heaven???????
― has mia ever been so far as to go even do what more like? (Lamp), Tuesday, June 8, 2010 12:06 AM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:27 (two years ago) link

Worst Morbs comment yet? Also, too low.

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:36 (two years ago) link

Morbs otm.

Not otm re Liberty Vallance, which frightens me.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link

How could you want to get rid of the Linda Manz narration. It's like outsider narration.

Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:44 (two years ago) link

I disagree with caitlin about the plants and locusts, in my top 25. Also the only good voiceover xp

ignore the blue line (or something), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:45 (two years ago) link

I don't love Days of Heaven, but it has one of the best (open) endings ever - life continues in a different direction while the film ends simply because we the viewers aren't following that way.

Halfway there but for you, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 19:51 (two years ago) link

Not a big Malick fan, but I like DoH well enough.

Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 20:14 (two years ago) link

Please no late Malick everyone!

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 20:15 (two years ago) link

Potential side question: did anyone discover or rewatch anything after they sent their ballot that would have made it? Closest for me might be What Happened Was...

― Chris L

Pontecorvo's Burn!

gospodin simmel, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link

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73. BEING JOHN MALKOVICH (Spike Jonze, 1999, USA) [700.6 points; 10 votes]
S&S: 1,176 | TSPDT: 1,105 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: (asked about what his recent-ish nominees for the ILX comedy films poll would be) "I'll give you freebies: Groundhog Day, Being John Malkovich, Eternal Sunshine"

Malkovich hasn't aged well.
― milo z (mlp), Saturday, May 6, 2006 4:39 PM

Charlie Kaufman scripts are never quite as good as you want them to be for the simple reason that movies, like most stories, operate best from inside the heart, and Kaufman's anti-romances are really only concerned with your mind. But before the plot kicks in, and before things start making "sense," Jonze sets up a brilliant showcase for the plot's built-in disorientation, and Catherine Keener's Stanwyck-on-steroids turn.
-- Pete Scholtes

And Being John Malkovich I downright loved. I thought that movie was underrated even by a lot of people who liked it -- it got a lot of, "Oh, it's so zany, so fresh, so FUN" reviews, when I actually thought it was an intensely philosophical and deeply considered film. I think that movie grapples with some things (about the nature of existence and identity, the perennial struggle for transcendence via the Other, blah blah blah) that don't turn up in many films this side of Bergman. And it's funnier than Bergman.
-- JesseFox

Being John Malkovich was even better, and I think in both cases the PoMo games are not empty flourishes but ways that make very good sense to me as ways of addressing some genuinely interesting subjects.
-- Martin Skidmore

malkovich is maybe a 5 on the comedy scale, feel like it has cohen brothers syndrome where its more just a weirdo mindspace w/elements of black comedy w/o being an actual comedy, they try to say too much abt life to be an actual comedy, the end of malkovich is srsly p dire and not funny too for the record
― lag∞n, Tuesday, March 6, 2012 12:59 PM

guys, I could drop the screenplay for malkovich on the table and point to every other line as a joke. one of the few movies I laugh out loud at. Not only is it a comedy by definition & intended as a comedy by it's creators, but it is hilarius and has tons of classic scenes like the monkey flashback, the dude punching cusack, "let's have sex on the table an make malkovich eat eggs off it." "NOOOOOOOOOOOOO", "Think fast, Malkovich.", or the whole Charlie Sheen scene.
― (he did what!) (Austerity Ponies), Tuesday, March 6, 2012 1:16 PM

I also loved "Being John Malkovich" and I'm not emo.
― Dan (Bah) Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, May 8, 2006 9:22 AM

malkovich was just way too dark for me. as in: i had trouble actually seeing what was going on at times.
― scott seward (scott seward), Monday, May 8, 2006 10:10 AM

really though this movie is way too much concept not enough heart
― HOOS next aka won't get steened again (Hurting 2), Friday, August 9, 2013 9:47 AM

the first half of Being John Malkovich is ingenious. Although based on an extraordinary premise, the film doesn't just indulge in it, but instead uses it to explore themes such as identity, manipulation and celebrity. Strangely, much of this is thrown into the trashcan after we hear the explanation why there is a portal into Malkovich's mind (in my opinion, there was no need for explanation, and the one given was stupid and incoherent). After that, the film is nothing more than a battle of who controls John Malkovich; it suffers the exact fate it kept avoiding for its first half. The last 30 minutes of the film are nothing more than an intellectual masturbation with no direction nor a deeper meaning. The ending, albeit quirky, is unsatisfying and does little to save the movie. A minor letdown in the film is John Cusack. His literary lines and over-the-top acting would work well if Being John Malkovich were just a comedy. But when he tries to play the tragic character and display inner conflicts he simply isn't credible. This is hardly Cusack's fault, though; the dialogue, the characters and their emotional reactions are not crafted in a believable way (the only exception being John Malkovich himself). Whether this is deliberate or not, it ruins much of the films dramatic tension.
― Tuomas (Tuomas), Monday, February 21, 2005 4:51 PM

[after BJM landed #21 in the ILX comedy movie poll]
LOL looking forward to ILX's #1 Comedy of All Time, Eraserhead.
― I will transmit this information to (Viceroy), Tuesday, April 3, 2012 12:03 PM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link

malkovich, malkovich, malkovich

it made my list!

Karl Malone, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link

classic scott seward comment

It's the Final Cluntdiwn (Spottie), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 21:13 (two years ago) link

Malkatraz! MaSheen!

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link

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72. PIERROT LE FOU (Jean-Luc Godard, 1965, France) [705 points; 6 votes]
S&S: 56 | TSPDT: 63 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "God, I hate this board … I'd think you guys could at least bond w/ him over how much he hates Spielberg and Truffaut"

pierrot le fou is hilarious if you're a misanthrope like me
― dean! (deangulberry), Thursday, March 18, 2004 3:36 PM

I rewatched Pierrot recently, and it was definitely longer than I'd remembered, and tougher to get through. A thing I think is important to remember re: France/Vietnam is that they themselves were thrown out of Indochina in the fifties. You know: History repeats itself, as tragedy, then comedy. There is a certain cynicism on Vietnam, which I don't think is there when they discuss Algiers.
― Frederik B, Monday, February 3, 2014 4:52 AM

JLG's 60s run has some very strong use of colour, when he decides to use it.
― xyzzzz__, Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:06 AM (one year ago) bookmarkflaglink

Overdoes it a bit in "Pierrot le Fou" tbh. Overdoes everything a bit in "Pierrot le Fou" tbf.
― Frozen Mug (Tom D.), Thursday, January 23, 2020 4:58 AM

Other than Breathless and Band of Outsiders and maybe Pierrot le Fou, his films have as many dull or awful moments as wondrous ones.
― Alfred, Lord Sotosyn, Tuesday, October 23, 2007 6:16 PM

Pierrot le Fou: So wonderful. A Jules Verne fantasyland.
― -8-(*_*)-8-, Tuesday, March 4, 2003 9:27 AM

would rather watch the Lost Boys than Pierrot le Fou again tbqh
― whyte mayne (corey), Tuesday, September 7, 2010 10:26 AM

Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:04 (two years ago) link

my god is Belmondo sexy here

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link

xposty but days of heaven was my #1 and i *like* how surfacey it is. it's distilled cinema and it's incredibly breezy for malick all things considered. the movie ends up feeling almost like an accident and i love that about it -- you can just feel how they found it in the editing process

Clay, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 22:13 (two years ago) link


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