ILX All-Time Film and Morbsies Poll: RESULTS Thread for ILX's Favorite Movies, Films, Cinema, Flicks & Moving Pictures

Potential side question: did anyone discover or rewatch anything after they sent their ballot that would have made it? Closest for me might be What Happened Was...

i rewatched something that made my top 25 that I wouldn’t even consider now but that’s life

I might've included Velvet Goldmine and PlayTime, both of which I first watched after voting.

Mandy is the only film so far that I've not seen in any canon whatsoever.

Watched Celine and Julie during lockdown, kind of going in with a half-idea of Rivette's rep (long films, serious) without having seen any &… I was startled by how much I loved it - I wasn't expecting to find something that would be a new favourite film, because I'm old and tired. The joy in the thing, the endless games, the fun that they have watching/jumping into the ridiculous time travel Henry james haunted house story, the perpetual feeling of 'let's try this!'.

Watched the full Out 1 after that. Great, but didn't love in the same way - guess I lean to games, films and the occult rather than crime, theatre and conspiracy.

Got Duelle lined up just because the summary sounds p wild.

(non voter, will be working my way through the list)

Histoire de Marie et Julien is along similar lines to Celine and Julie, if you are looking for more of that.

Duelle is my favorite Rivette that I’ve seen. Definitely has more of what you say you’re looking for.

the ilx quotes have been a real highlight of this

― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson),

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80. CALIFORNIA SPLIT (Robert Altman, 1974, USA) [663 points; 6 votes]
S&S: DNP | TSPDT: 1,695 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "never cared for California Split all that much … Segal and Gould are funny, and a little sad. It's worth seeing once."

California Split is barely a movie. I mean this mostly as a compliment
― k*r*n koltrane (Simon H.), Wednesday, May 20, 2020 9:08 PM

california split is great fun and very sad on a level.
― t0dd swiss, Wednesday, February 23, 2005 7:26 PM

he was already one of my favorites and then I saw California Split last year and was blown away. like "whoa how many more of these are there."
― dmr (Renard), Tuesday, November 21, 2006 1:50 PM

California Split is a lot of fun but I don't think its a patch on The Long Goodbye.
― Shakey Mo Collier, Monday, March 26, 2007 12:58 PM

holy shit california split is amazing!!!!!!!!! why is this not altman canon??
― s1ocki, Thursday, March 6, 2008 11:57 AM

one of the best movies about addiction I've ever seen
― flappy bird, Sunday, February 17, 2019 11:31 PM

There's at least one scene in California Split that makes we squirm a little--Gould and Segal drunkenly hamming it up in the parking lot just before they get jumped (I do enjoy their Seven-Dwarts ramblings just before that)--but I think most of it's great, and I think it's a much better film about the rush of gambling than Uncut Gems. (Of which my experience is limited to low-stakes poker games with friends, so I supposed someone with actual experience will disagree with me on that.)
― clemenza, Friday, January 17, 2020 8:02 PM

Damn, california split is so good, tho it undoubtedly fails every variation of the bechdel test ever. But... i am not a big film person -- music has much more of a lasting impact on me. Even novelty songs about valley girls. But CS is one of those films that I couldn't stop thinking about for a long time after I watch(ed) it. The whole gambling thing is obv very fruitful metaphor on its own, w long long legs, but add in male friendships and i guess relationships in general, and damn. The ending is at once depressing, triumphant, and transcendent. There's a lot of ground covered there.
― dell (del), Friday, February 5, 2021 1:33 AM

Rewatched California Split, I didn't remember much about it from years ago except lots of patter. The patter is there and good, but what I really loved this time was friendship of the Gould and Segal characters, the way it springs up around this thing they both love — gambling — but then comes apart in the end because it turns out that thing means different things to them. Also, Gould's lightness in the movie is remarkable, it's like he's floating through it all, including his beatdowns. Nothing really fazes him, he's just there for the love of the chase.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Sunday, May 31, 2020 11:18 AM

Morbs otm

Like Hour of the Wolf tossed into Bergman's epic '60s run, I can't dislike California Split because where Altman was by 1974.

Based on this placing you'd have to expect another, what, 4 Altman's to show up? 3 at least

Can think of 2 more likely to appear and 2 others that wouldn’t surprise me

I knew I was home when ILX seemed to prefer 3 Women to Nashville.

Basically agree with Alfred (and Morbs) here. I gave it a rewatch in the last year and I'm still not on its wavelength but it's part of such a majestic run-up.

I knew I was home when ILX seemed to prefer 3 Women to Nashville M*A*S*H

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79. UNDER THE SKIN (Jonathan Glazer, 2014, UK) [665 points; 12 votes]
S&S: DNP | TSPDT: 1,986 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "this was significantly less dopey than Birth … I don't think this is ambiguous or mysterious enough to demand multiple viewings. At least chewier than "the brilliant Her," though."

I wasn't moved by Under the Skin at all. This kind of mystery-of-women subject tends to make me fidget.
― guess that bundt gettin eaten (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, December 13, 2014 8:46 AM

I would have happily watched an entire film like the first 5 minutes of this, but then it turned into Killer Of Neds, oh well.
― めんどくさい (Matt #2), Wednesday, April 2, 2014 5:48 PM

I'm getting sick of asides suggesting that the film presents the protagonist as "constantly subjected to the predatory behavior of men". This is simply not true. The truck driver who appears at the end is really the only male character who fits this description.
― deliberately clunky, needlessly arty, (contenderizer), Thursday, January 22, 2015 11:29 AM

like how this reminds everyone of a different alien-vampire movie. Species, Liquid Sky, The Man Who Fell to Earth, Cat People whatever
― Οὖτις, Monday, September 22, 2014 11:51 AM

incredible film. was utterly absorbed at every moment and wished it wouldn't end - love films where you're in this bubble of seeing the world differently, it feels disorientating coming back to reality.
― lex pretend, Wednesday, January 7, 2015 3:56 AM

I love this movie cuz besides being aesthetically clobbering, there was a lot to think about afterwards. plus I'm a fan of stuff like taxi driver and gardner's grendel, monster movies where you're trapped with the monster for the duration. sympathy for lady predator. I'd call it deceptively meandering, the laissez-faire approach gives it that open ended feel, but there isn't a sequence in the latter half that doesn't contribute to the themes of desire and appearance, hidden motivations, gender dynamics, and our constant fucked attempts to connect w/ each other. it puts you so close to johannssen's character it's as though her wandering uncertainty infects the viewer, but this is a highly controlled piece of work.
― a hard dom is good to find (Edward III), Monday, June 16, 2014 10:02 AM

seriously who the fuck does this a hard dom is good to find cunt think he is
― conrad, Thursday, June 26, 2014 1:16 PM

oh man, what an incredible movie. had i gone beyond my top 25 it would've been on my ballot

I'm still sort of lol'ing at Killer Of Neds.

Very worthy inclusion. There's not a lot that phases me in movies anymore but I found the beach scene in particular very unsettling.

Never seen anything like it. It’s just searingly singular and extremely weird to watch if you’re from Glasgow.

Incredible, unlike morbs I also love Birth and voted for both

For a horrible moment there I thought Birth of a Nation had made its way into the 100.

78 slots left for that to still happen

eric, if you put a dw griffith in as a fakeout I am afraid I cannot be responsible for my actions

I had Under the Skin on my long list, it has an indelible atmosphere. It has a lot of reference points, but I don't think it feels like anything else. And like Matt Damon's roles where he's supposed to seem fake, I think ScarJo makes a virtue of some of her usual weaknesses — her blank affect is perfect.

Love California Split, that and The Long Goodbye are the only Altmans to have truly clicked for me so far.

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78. THE WICKER MAN (Robin Hardy, 1973, UK) [668.5 points; 8 votes]
S&S: 1,176 | TSPDT: 645 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "The Wicker Man is extra special to heathens … at least The Wicker Man is better than The Shining."

Wicker Man is more like a comedy to me … nothing remotely scary/horrifying about it
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:47 AM

I guess I should rewatch The Wicker Man again. Like, when I'm not actively dozing off throughout it's runtime, maybe.
― Quiet Desperation, LLC (Deric W. Haircare), Tuesday, May 22, 2012 5:15 PM

Wicker Man rules, fuck y'all
― Simon H., Thursday, May 24, 2012 2:28 PM

whoa crazy according to wikipedia the wicker man opened its us run in...minneapolis? now i have to try and find a way to like it out of hometown pride. plus i really dig anthony schaffer.
― I want L'interieur chicken, not Hausu chicken (jjjusten), Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:00 PM

with the wicker man there is the sense that the usual movie rules don't apply and anything could happen. this is a key ingredient for horror imo.
― the acquisition and practice of music is unfavourable to the health of (abanana), Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:01 PM

is everyone just ignoring that half of its creepiness... well, we actually did that shit (still do, in some cases/places)? Maypoles and morris men and animal costumes and fertility dances are real, and they tap into a sense of England that is both pastoral and primal, bucolic and highly dangerous... We're a strange people in an ancient land.
― emil.y, Thursday, May 24, 2012 3:10 PM

I think my favourite thing about the film is that the hot air currents have failed so that the island is dying / it's not even an unbroken chain back to the pagan past, because it was Lord Summerisle's grandfather who instigated the paganism - so it's about pagan reconstructionism, not just paganism. Neither the island's way or the policeman's way 'work'. So viewed in terms of 'Environmental Cinema', that edge is what keeps the film from being a regressive fantasy like Avatar or LotR.
― cardamon, Tuesday, July 23, 2013 1:10 AM

It was interesting and fine and everything, but the protagonist was SO unlikeable that I really just didn't give a shit that he died. And when it's him vs. Christopher Lee, I mean who am I supposed to be cheering for? Chris Lee needs to be eating puppies or some shit before I stop rooting for him.
― Jessie the Monster (scarymonsterrr), Sunday, July 30, 2006 6:00 PM

Christopher Lee is one actor from whom I'd tolerate puppy eating.
― Tab Hunter loves to take his shirt off (kenan), Sunday, July 30, 2006 6:10 PM

The apoplexy over The Wicker Man's 5th place finish in the ILX horror poll (over Psycho, Carrie, NotLD, Texas Chainsaw, etc.) was probably the biggest headline from that thread.

Fun double bill these last two would make.

i think that just as with its many-flowered 21st-century analogue, we are definitely meant to be in some sense cheered by the final conflagration

scarymonsterrr in 2006, yes it is more than OK to be on Christopher Lee's side in this fil.

love the image for this one

Been meaning to watch this one forever.

Under the Skin and The Wicker Man are both "interesting enough to watch once" movies, for me.

skewing kinda more culty than canon thus far, nothing i voted for but im here for it

the last three were on my list, all three create their own very specific sense of place that i have to revisit every once in a while

Did not vote for Wicker Man, but I love it. The best parts are just the depictions of daily life on the island. Seems influenced by The Prisoner? Or maybe they were both products of that particular time, channeling a lot of paranoia and instability.

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77. THE GOOD, THE BAD AND THE UGLY (Sergio Leone, 1966, Italy) [670 points; 12 votes; Morbs silver]
S&S: 136 | TSPDT: 138 | BOXD: 23

MORBS SEZ: "Leone > ultraviolent-phase Peckinpah … I need Ford, Hawks, Mann and Boetticher along with Leone, tho. 'Johnny Guitar' too."

The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly gets better with each viewing. And what is often forgotten is that it contains one of cinema's more inexplicably haunting depictions of war. Aside from the battle between a couple of liquored-up armies fighting over a useless bridge, the war is nothing but retreating armies, dead bodies, military cemeteries, and prisoner-of-war camps.
― Gear! (can Jung shill it, Mu?) (Gear!), Wednesday, March 9, 2005 1:31 AM

The more I watch it, the more I am convinced that is my favorite movie.
― Leon the Fatboy (Ex Leon), Wednesday, March 9, 2005 10:45 AM

it's hardly ever noted how Eastwood gives such a good performance, and he's so understated throughout that it's hard to miss next to Wallach and Van Cleef and the more colorful supporting turns. And he's very good with the low-key comedy
― omar little, Thursday, October 11, 2018 11:12 AM

Tuco is better in A Few Dollars More.
― CaptainLorax, Thursday, November 29, 2007 10:15 PM

Wicker Man is my #16, first of my 25 to place. Agreed about sense of place, think that sums up about half of my balot.

skewing kinda more culty than canon thus far

To me this list is more "100 films that ILX likes" rather than a definitive take on film history, it's that balance between canon and cult that I'm interested in seeing.

omar little otm

i voted for this one

i have butch cassidy on my list and not tGood, tBad, a tUgly, wtf

Wicker Man is more like a comedy to me … nothing remotely scary/horrifying about it
― Roger Barfing (Shakey Mo Collier), Thursday, May 24, 2012 11:47 AM

this has always been my experience w/this one as well, i try & try to be scared by it but the camp is just too much for me... scene after scene of that guy getting apoplectic over people drinking alcohol and singing folk songs, and then they torch him... its high regard as a legit scary movie has always baffled me

I love it but don't find it scary at all

scary is a strong word, but i do find the enthusiastic cultishness of the summerilse community eerie, even as (or maybe especially as) i root for the death of the prude

didn't vote at all but 'meshes' + 'mulholland drive' = perfectly apposite short + a feature combo

― donna rouge, Monday, October 25, 2021 11:21 AM

Delivered! From the Criterion Channel November titles announcement:

Short + Feature: Trance-Formers
Meshes of the Afternoon and Mulholland Dr.
TUESDAY, NOVEMBER 9
Two giants of the American avant-garde speak through the language of the subconscious in a pair of surrealist masterpieces set in the shadow of the Hollywood dream factory.

sorry, can't make that showing, i have a poll to read

whoa whos out there lurking show urself

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76. DAISIES (Vera Chytilová, 1966, Czechoslovakia) [674.29 points; 7 votes; 1 first-place vote]
S&S: 297 | TSPDT: 292 | BOXD: DNP

MORBS SEZ: "8/10"

It is truly a great work of art, almost certainly the best of the Czech New Wave. Though in recent years I have grown increasingly irritable with people who don't realise/don't want to realise that its superficial absurdist joy masks deeper messages.
― emil.y, Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:44 PM

i doubt i'll ever figure out what half of it 'means' in any literal sense, but such a great, fun, bracing, life-affirming experience.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, March 12, 2014 3:51 PM

daisies is fun, but it can be tiring.
― sarahel, Friday, August 20, 2010 9:39 PM