And I agree with everyone who says it's Scorsese's best, maybe De Niro's too
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:16 (four years ago)
I like Johnny Guitar, Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown and this movie, but I still don't like Jerry Lewis in general that much, so I guess that makes me...
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:17 (four years ago)
…not like Hippie Johnny Guitar!
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:21 (four years ago)
For one night I'd like to see myself out of my head! Wouldn't you like to see me out of my head?! Wouldn't that be great?! Wouldn't that be fabulous?!?!
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:23 (four years ago)
I didn't often admit that Morbs was right to recommend a movie to me when I didn't think it would be in my wheelhouse, but damn, Morbs was right about The King of Comedy.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:45 (four years ago)
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82. WILD STRAWBERRIES (Ingmar Bergman, 1957, Sweden) [661.5 points; 6 votes]S&S: 86 | TSPDT: 61 | BOXD: 123
MORBS SEZ: "I like Sawdust and Tinsel, Through a Glass Darkly, and Wild Strawberries (Giro, what's not to like in WS?) a whole lot."Dud: Sawdust and Tinsel, The Silence, Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:11 PMWild Strawberries is still my favorite of all of Bergman’s films. It is expansive and kind-hearted. It worries about the regrets we all have over the instances of rejection and distance that take place in the course of our lives but in the end it understands that compassion overrides everything. It is amazing that he made this when he was 39 years old― Dan S, Monday, November 18, 2019 8:28 PM (one year ago)I love when he uses his morbidity or broodingness as a set up for a punch line--in Wild Strawberries (the kids having a fist fight over whether God is dead)― Martin Van Burne, Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AMI've just finished watching Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries, and the same thing still bugs me as the first time I saw it. The scene where Professor Borg returns to his childhood home and begins to reminisce bothers me. Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those events (the strawberry patch, the dinner table) could really be his memories- he was never present when any of those things happened. They even mention how he was fishing with his father? So how does one recall certain events at which one was not present? I've looked over the scenes carefully to make sure I just wasn't looking at it wrong, but if I remember correctly, he specifically uses the term "memories"- not "dreams."― Anthony (Anthony F), Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:09 PMNot only is it still great, but its numerous moments of humour and uplift remind me once again that anyone who calls Bergman's films depressing probably only knows them to the extent that they've read their plot synopses.― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:27 PMI once tried to watch Wild Strawberries when I was on the comedown off Ecstasy. It's a great movie, but dear god, what was I thinking? I will never understand why I thought it would be suitable for that frame of mind. Had to turn it off.― mirostones, Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:41 AM
Dud: Sawdust and Tinsel, The Silence, Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:11 PM
Wild Strawberries is still my favorite of all of Bergman’s films. It is expansive and kind-hearted. It worries about the regrets we all have over the instances of rejection and distance that take place in the course of our lives but in the end it understands that compassion overrides everything. It is amazing that he made this when he was 39 years old― Dan S, Monday, November 18, 2019 8:28 PM (one year ago)
I love when he uses his morbidity or broodingness as a set up for a punch line--in Wild Strawberries (the kids having a fist fight over whether God is dead)― Martin Van Burne, Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AM
I've just finished watching Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries, and the same thing still bugs me as the first time I saw it. The scene where Professor Borg returns to his childhood home and begins to reminisce bothers me. Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those events (the strawberry patch, the dinner table) could really be his memories- he was never present when any of those things happened. They even mention how he was fishing with his father? So how does one recall certain events at which one was not present? I've looked over the scenes carefully to make sure I just wasn't looking at it wrong, but if I remember correctly, he specifically uses the term "memories"- not "dreams."― Anthony (Anthony F), Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:09 PM
Not only is it still great, but its numerous moments of humour and uplift remind me once again that anyone who calls Bergman's films depressing probably only knows them to the extent that they've read their plot synopses.― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:27 PM
I once tried to watch Wild Strawberries when I was on the comedown off Ecstasy. It's a great movie, but dear god, what was I thinking? I will never understand why I thought it would be suitable for that frame of mind. Had to turn it off.― mirostones, Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:41 AM
I like Bergman better after Winter Light, something became more natural and relaxed in his style after his 50s films, even as the tone got darker and darker.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:48 (four years ago)
Saw it again during lockdown. Rather uptight -- he got looser after 1960
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:49 (four years ago)
lol xpost
Is that image from the Rick Linklater remake?
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:50 (four years ago)
saw 4 or 5 Bergman films on TV when I was 16/17 and cannot remember names or which bits are from which film, have been planning a rewatch for ages, must actually do it.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:53 (four years ago)
Now somehow imaging a lost Get Smart episode, "The Day the Claw Cried."
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:56 (four years ago)
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:50 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol yes, the rosemary's baby image gave me the same thought
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:00 (four years ago)
Catching up in between house move, so no brain energy to comment yet but two of mine have placed already: La Jetée (#8) and Meshes of the Afternoon (#13). Two honorable mention placements too for Rosemary’s Baby and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia. Makes me feel quite consensus at this point.
Most need to see Spirit of the Beehive of those that have placed so far. Most dubious about ever seeing Showgirls.
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:01 (four years ago)
How many Morbs golds are there vs. Morbs silvers?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:09 (four years ago)
It might not mean a lot to you but it means a lot to me
Who, me? I voted for King of Comedy.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:10 (four years ago)
I was just throwing a Rupert Pupkin quote in there
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:21 (four years ago)
Great that the Yang has placed. That was no.9 in my ballot. Probably the most powerful screening I went to before the cinemas shut, so it has that sad association for me.
re: Rivette. Celine and Julie is probably third best after Out 1 (even in its four hour cut) and L'Amou Fou (which has yet to come out on DVD?) Paris on the verge of breakdown...
And yeah saw King of Comedy recently and it's really great and up there with Raging Bull as the Scorcese-De Niro collab. I guess it's the film that led De Niro to make all those comedies but it's great enough to weather that one...
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:22 (four years ago)
never been into Scorcese and only saw King of Comedy for first time this year, knew I loved this film when he turned out to have a pretty good stand up routine after everything, would have been so easy/predictable to have him fail
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:27 (four years ago)
Haven't seen it in a while, but wasn't he kind of terrible at stand-up? I think of those weirdly robotic arm gestures.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:32 (four years ago)
No, he has a genuine rapport with the audience, and reasonably good jokes.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:34 (four years ago)
You're thinking of DeNiro on SNL.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:56 (four years ago)
Found Stanley Kauffmann's review online--I'd agree with this:
He also gets the unrhythmical quality of Rupert’s movement and gesture, epitomized in that one TV appearance. De Niro knows that Rupert has studied Langford and other comics, that he thinks he has learned how to do the stuff. But all Rupert has acquired is some of the mannerisms--the Bob Hope run-on, for instance. He doesn’t have central ease, his delivery is a collection of remembered inflections, he hasn’t a clue about what to do with his arms. Because that scene is the best in the script, De Niro, one of our best film actors, is able to blend Rupert’s imitation of professionals and his residual amateurishness into a spot of horror.
I realize you're not claiming he's great.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:08 (four years ago)
I took his rapport with the audience to be an indictment of the audience.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:09 (four years ago)
(I did rewatch some of his monologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajb8wd7jDFU.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:11 (four years ago)
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81. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (Frank Capra, 1946, USA) [661.63 points; 8 votes]S&S: 200 | TSPDT: 83 | BOXD: 89
MORBS SEZ: "I like it in spite of myself. 'Why'd we hafta have ALL THESE KIDS!?' … very very dark til that sappy finale. this did come out in 1946 after all, the sacrifice theme is just as relevant as were those of The Best Years of Our Lives."That very first glimpse of Clarence is perfect; one of the all-time great character intro shots― piscesx, Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:26 AMthose who complain about the schmaltz kinda miss the point. It's a fairy tale, of course it has schmaltz, but I don't see how that would make it any worse. Would it a better film if George never woke up from his nightmare, or if he'd manage to kill himself? I don't think so.― Tuomas, Tuesday, December 25, 2007 5:08 AMUncle Billy and Harry Bailey are both kinda douchebags in this movie.― ^likes tilt-a-whirls (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:07 PMHow come if George Bailey was never born, his wife would have to wear glasses? Is he a Lasik surgeon? … I mean, ok, if George Bailey wasn't born, so his town turns into like some kind of weird suburban version of the Bronx, and everyone else in his family would die, and the town pharmacy would be murdering people on the sly, that's all fair cop. But why would Donna Reed go nearsighted? Crazy jittery spinster librarian, sure, what the hell, but her eyes?― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, December 8, 2002 8:59 PMwhat can i say, ally, masturbation makes you go blind thus the glasses.― doom-e, Monday, December 9, 2002 9:06 AMI never noticed the glasses thing before. I think I was too busy trying to knock myself senseless by bashing my head against the wall in a futile, desperate attempt to escape the schmaltz.― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, December 9, 2002 9:36 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglinkdesperate attempt to escape the schmaltz of anti masturbation. What??????― doom-e, Monday, December 9, 2002 9:41 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglinkMasturbation is so maudlin.― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, December 9, 2002 9:47 AMHow come if George Bailey was never born, his wife would have to wear glasses? Is he a Lasik surgeon?1) Because George was not there to save brother he died.2) Because brother died, every man on his platoon died.3) One man on the platoon hurled rock upwards in dying action.4) Rock hits exotic bird, disrupting its flight movement.5) Bird lands dead on platform of Navy warship; crew men marvel.6) One of the crew members decides to take dead bird to "Pottersville", where famed taxodermist (not existing in George's regular world) lives.7) One step away from being flattened by a truck driven by callous, heart-hardened Pottersville resident, Mary (walking home from lunch break from the library) pushes the sailor out of the way just in time.8) Mary gets struck by truck in his place; suffers neurological disorder requiring glasses for the rest of her life.Isn't it strange how one man's life affects others...― Joe, Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:36 AM (thirteen years ago)i think what really won me over to theory was my professor's reading of the broken bannister and how it so obviously signifies Freudian castration - and how George kisses it in the end in his acceptance of his fate. It's just such a perfect Hollywood story hero challenges the norm, then embraces it at the end re establishing order (Frederic Jameson theory IIRC).― Spencer Chow, Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:51 AMThe broken bannister is an omen of Ed Asner's character in JFK, Guy Banister; George is a secret agent of history, hurling the country into the Cold War and a turbulent future.― clemenza, Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:50 PM (six years ago)
That very first glimpse of Clarence is perfect; one of the all-time great character intro shots― piscesx, Tuesday, December 24, 2019 10:26 AM
those who complain about the schmaltz kinda miss the point. It's a fairy tale, of course it has schmaltz, but I don't see how that would make it any worse. Would it a better film if George never woke up from his nightmare, or if he'd manage to kill himself? I don't think so.― Tuomas, Tuesday, December 25, 2007 5:08 AM
Uncle Billy and Harry Bailey are both kinda douchebags in this movie.― ^likes tilt-a-whirls (Pancakes Hackman), Tuesday, December 23, 2008 5:07 PM
How come if George Bailey was never born, his wife would have to wear glasses? Is he a Lasik surgeon? … I mean, ok, if George Bailey wasn't born, so his town turns into like some kind of weird suburban version of the Bronx, and everyone else in his family would die, and the town pharmacy would be murdering people on the sly, that's all fair cop. But why would Donna Reed go nearsighted? Crazy jittery spinster librarian, sure, what the hell, but her eyes?― Ally (mlescaut), Sunday, December 8, 2002 8:59 PM
what can i say, ally, masturbation makes you go blind thus the glasses.― doom-e, Monday, December 9, 2002 9:06 AM
I never noticed the glasses thing before. I think I was too busy trying to knock myself senseless by bashing my head against the wall in a futile, desperate attempt to escape the schmaltz.― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, December 9, 2002 9:36 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
desperate attempt to escape the schmaltz of anti masturbation. What??????― doom-e, Monday, December 9, 2002 9:41 AM (eighteen years ago) bookmarkflaglink
Masturbation is so maudlin.― Dan Perry (Dan Perry), Monday, December 9, 2002 9:47 AM
How come if George Bailey was never born, his wife would have to wear glasses? Is he a Lasik surgeon?1) Because George was not there to save brother he died.2) Because brother died, every man on his platoon died.3) One man on the platoon hurled rock upwards in dying action.4) Rock hits exotic bird, disrupting its flight movement.5) Bird lands dead on platform of Navy warship; crew men marvel.6) One of the crew members decides to take dead bird to "Pottersville", where famed taxodermist (not existing in George's regular world) lives.7) One step away from being flattened by a truck driven by callous, heart-hardened Pottersville resident, Mary (walking home from lunch break from the library) pushes the sailor out of the way just in time.8) Mary gets struck by truck in his place; suffers neurological disorder requiring glasses for the rest of her life.Isn't it strange how one man's life affects others...― Joe, Tuesday, December 25, 2007 7:36 AM (thirteen years ago)
i think what really won me over to theory was my professor's reading of the broken bannister and how it so obviously signifies Freudian castration - and how George kisses it in the end in his acceptance of his fate. It's just such a perfect Hollywood story hero challenges the norm, then embraces it at the end re establishing order (Frederic Jameson theory IIRC).― Spencer Chow, Thursday, December 25, 2014 2:51 AM
The broken bannister is an omen of Ed Asner's character in JFK, Guy Banister; George is a secret agent of history, hurling the country into the Cold War and a turbulent future.― clemenza, Thursday, December 25, 2014 7:50 PM (six years ago)
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:12 (four years ago)
Here we are so far:
100. ROSEMARY'S BABY (Roman Polanski, Roman 1968, USA) [620 points; 10 votes]99. LA JETÉE (Chris Marker, Chris 1962, France) [623.33 points; 9 votes; 1 first-place vote; Morbs silver]98. MY NEIGHBOUR TOTORO (Miyazaki Hayao, 1988, Japan) [623.9 points; 10 votes]97. SEVEN SAMURAI (Kurosawa Akira, 1954, Japan) [624.67 points; 9 votes]96. MESHES OF THE AFTERNOON (Maya Deren & Alexander Hammid, 1943, USA) [625.71 points; 7 votes]95. SHOWGIRLS (Paul Verhoeven, 1995, USA) [628 points; 4 votes]94. ONCE UPON A TIME IN ANATOLIA (Nuri Bilge Ceylan, 2011, Turkey) [636 points; 6 votes]93. ERASERHEAD (David Lynch, 1977, USA) [636.9 points; 10 votes]92. THE GODFATHER (Francis Ford Coppola, 1972, USA) [643.4 points; 10 votes]91. LAST YEAR AT MARIENBAD (Alain Resnais, 1961, France) [645.82 points; 11 votes]
90. MANDY (Panos Cosmatos, 2018, USA) [646.5 points; 8 votes]89. THIS IS SPINAL TAP (Rob Reiner, 1984, USA) [650.91 points; 11 votes]88. JOHNNY GUITAR (Nicholas Ray, 1954, USA) [651 points; 6 votes]87. THE SPIRIT OF THE BEEHIVE (Victor Erice, 1973, Spain) [652 points; 8 votes]86. A BRIGHTER SUMMER DAY (Edward Yang, 1991, Taiwan) [655.5 points; 6 votes; 1 first-place vote]85. THE LADY EVE (Preson Sturges, 1941, USA) [656.4 points; 10 votes; Morbs silver]84. CELINE AND JULIE GO BOATING (Jacques Rivette, 1974, France) [658.57 points; 7 votes]83. THE KING OF COMEDY (Martin Scorsese, 1983, USA) [659.82 points; 11 votes; Morbs gold]82. WILD STRAWBERRIES (Ingmar Bergman, 1957, Sweden) [661.5 points; 6 votes]81. IT'S A WONDERFUL LIFE (Frank Capra, 1946, USA) [661.63 points; 8 votes]
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:13 (four years ago)
good list so far
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:20 (four years ago)
Christ, I thought that was Sin City for a second
― Andrew Farrell, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:20 (four years ago)
it's a waking life
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:20 (four years ago)
True womanly love means never having to say "I see what you did there."
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:24 (four years ago)
I really hope I remembered to vote for It's a Wonderful Life.
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:52 (four years ago)
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:16 (four years ago)
The dog that ate your birthday cake.
― Heavy Messages (jed_), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:38 (four years ago)
the ilx quotes have been a real highlight of this
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:44 (four years ago)
this list rules, only seen like 20% of these but KING OF COMEDY is in my personal top 10, the kind of film that only makes more and more sense as the years go on
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 23:47 (four years ago)
Lots of enticing movies added to my Letterb*xd watchlist today.
Speaking of LB, has anybody started putting together a list of our results over there? I'd be glad to make one if not.
― davey, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:57 (four years ago)
I wouldn't have expected Wonderful Life in the top 100, interesting. The scenes in Potterville are the highlight, right? I feel like that's kind of the crux of the movie.
― a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 02:58 (four years ago)
I just found two ILX instances of maybe my favorite quote from Preston Sturges’s The Lady Eve, neither from me, one on tcm alert thread and ten other on Barbara Stanwyck: An ILX Film Snobs Thread:I need him like the axe needs the turkey
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:04 (four years ago)
Ten = the
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:05 (four years ago)
i don't think i voted for IAWL but i'll always defend it.
― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:07 (four years ago)
Oh, I meant to say I had a conversation today IRL that went from a mention of yet another TLE quote, “Who do you think you are, Houdini?” to a discussion of the Tony Curtis movie Houdini and then to Some Like It Hot, so I guess this thread is working its magic somehow.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:09 (four years ago)
https://boxd.it/dPPzw
here's a letterboxd list, i'll update it with the rollout
― Clay, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:20 (four years ago)
thank u sir
― mens rea activist (k3vin k.), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:39 (four years ago)
now with correct title
― Clay, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 03:45 (four years ago)
nice! thanks, Clay
― davey, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 04:08 (four years ago)
The Lady Eve was my Number Two, The Spirit of the Beehive Number Twelve, Last Year at Marienbad Number Nineteen, and La Jeteé Number Twenty-Four.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 27 October 2021 04:15 (four years ago)
Potential side question: did anyone discover or rewatch anything after they sent their ballot that would have made it? Closest for me might be What Happened Was...
― Chris L, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 05:25 (four years ago)
i rewatched something that made my top 25 that I wouldn’t even consider now but that’s life
― Clay, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 05:40 (four years ago)
I might've included Velvet Goldmine and PlayTime, both of which I first watched after voting.
― davey, Wednesday, 27 October 2021 07:46 (four years ago)