no La Belle Noiseuse coming, I guess.
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:12 (two years ago) link
Tried a few times with Celine and Julie, maybe one day I'll find a way in
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
I don't know if any of you have made it through Tony Judt's 952-page Postwar but he spends a paragraph trashing Celine and Julie as the moment French New Wave cinema devolved into self-parody (I do not agree).
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
If it did, it did so yeeeeeeeeaaaaaaarrrrrrrrssssss earlier.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link
has anyone seen his 13 hour-long "Out 1"?
― Dan S, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:15 (two years ago) link
Oh cmon this is absolutely classic, ofc in my 25. Need to see it again mind, first time might have been a dream innit!! Also it was about 10 years ago
― imago, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link
I like it but have to check whether I voted for it.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:16 (two years ago) link
*checks*
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link
Made it onto unranked section
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:18 (two years ago) link
M
On the long list of canonized classics that put me to sleep.
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link
David Thomson's favourite film incidentally
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:20 (two years ago) link
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:21 (two years ago) link
I think falling asleep in installments is the way to watch this.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:23 (two years ago) link
Looking at my unfamiliar-seeming ballot now, I think Mabuse must have written that as well.
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:32 (two years ago) link
I saw Out 1: noli me tangere over two days at Cinematheque Ontario, and I voted for the short version, Out 1: Spectre. Celine et Julie is good too. What I love about Rivette is how, wherever he sets his camera, he captures both the atmosphere of the actual place and also a sense that anywhere can be framed and transformed into a theatrical location.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:39 (two years ago) link
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Me while watching this movie, or while waiting for the next title to drop?
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:41 (two years ago) link
Up next, our first Morbs gold!
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:48 (two years ago) link
Daphne and Josephine Go Boating?
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
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83. THE KING OF COMEDY (Martin Scorsese, 1983, USA) [659.82 points; 11 votes; Morbs gold]S&S: 324 | TSPDT: 394 | BOXD: DNP
MORBS SEZ: "the Genius inseparable from the Asshole … I find tKoC Kubrickian in that I don't think it matters if you can't identify w/ DeNiro or Lewis beyond the "have-not" and "have" level. It's primarily a cultural critique / anthropological study … my fave Jerry moment might be 'You've got a blank card' … Jerry wanted Sandra to do a pratfall into the glass table full of candles. he rrrreally hated her. … I think the last quarter-century of American culture is proof that Pupkin really became a star. Scorsese's best film."gets scarier the more times you see it.― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:53 PMvery underrated, but damn fine angry and mean― goeff, Saturday, February 2, 2002 7:00 PMBernhard is absolute perfection― lamey g. curtis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:37 PMthe way there's absolutely nothing in the deniro-bernhard "relationship" except their mutual obsession, mutual fantasy, just enough to make them partners, and then when they have captured their obsession's object their fantasies diverge and even that connection is immediately gone, was p harsh― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Friday, January 31, 2014 2:48 PMMan, there’s not a single false step in this movie, so good― Οὖτις, Monday, December 31, 2018 2:26 PMScorsese and DeNiro's best― flappy bird, Monday, December 31, 2018 5:22 PMI think The King of Comedy is Scorsese's, um, masterpiece and is waaaay better than many of the films on this poll, e.g., Cinderfella, Boeing Boeing, etc. But the Scorsese dorks needed to stay off this thread.― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, July 1, 2011 5:20 PM
gets scarier the more times you see it.― (The Other) J.D. (J.D.), Thursday, May 2, 2013 3:53 PM
very underrated, but damn fine angry and mean― goeff, Saturday, February 2, 2002 7:00 PM
Bernhard is absolute perfection― lamey g. curtis (Stevie D(eux)), Wednesday, January 12, 2011 4:37 PM
the way there's absolutely nothing in the deniro-bernhard "relationship" except their mutual obsession, mutual fantasy, just enough to make them partners, and then when they have captured their obsession's object their fantasies diverge and even that connection is immediately gone, was p harsh― i want to say one word to you, just one word:buzzfeed (difficult listening hour), Friday, January 31, 2014 2:48 PM
Man, there’s not a single false step in this movie, so good― Οὖτις, Monday, December 31, 2018 2:26 PM
Scorsese and DeNiro's best― flappy bird, Monday, December 31, 2018 5:22 PM
I think The King of Comedy is Scorsese's, um, masterpiece and is waaaay better than many of the films on this poll, e.g., Cinderfella, Boeing Boeing, etc. But the Scorsese dorks needed to stay off this thread.― Kevin John Bozelka, Friday, July 1, 2011 5:20 PM
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 19:55 (two years ago) link
I got nuttin. But when the donor restrictions on The Day the Clown Cried expire, do you want to carpool down to LOC-Culpeper to see it?
― Infanta Terrible (j.lu), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
I'm not commodity!
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:01 (two years ago) link
ah man i forgot to vote for this one
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:02 (two years ago) link
My one thing I think people should know about this movie is that in the scene where Bernhard is on the street calling bystanders "street trash" you can see Joe Strummer crouching down saying "Oi!" on the VHS but not in current versions.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:03 (two years ago) link
It might not mean a lot to you but it means a lot to me
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:11 (two years ago) link
And I agree with everyone who says it's Scorsese's best, maybe De Niro's too
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:16 (two years ago) link
I like Johnny Guitar, Women on the Verge of a Nervous Breakdown and this movie, but I still don't like Jerry Lewis in general that much, so I guess that makes me...
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:17 (two years ago) link
…not like Hippie Johnny Guitar!
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:21 (two years ago) link
For one night I'd like to see myself out of my head! Wouldn't you like to see me out of my head?! Wouldn't that be great?! Wouldn't that be fabulous?!?!
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:23 (two years ago) link
I didn't often admit that Morbs was right to recommend a movie to me when I didn't think it would be in my wheelhouse, but damn, Morbs was right about The King of Comedy.
― Milm & Foovies (Eric H.), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link
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82. WILD STRAWBERRIES (Ingmar Bergman, 1957, Sweden) [661.5 points; 6 votes]S&S: 86 | TSPDT: 61 | BOXD: 123
MORBS SEZ: "I like Sawdust and Tinsel, Through a Glass Darkly, and Wild Strawberries (Giro, what's not to like in WS?) a whole lot."Dud: Sawdust and Tinsel, The Silence, Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:11 PMWild Strawberries is still my favorite of all of Bergman’s films. It is expansive and kind-hearted. It worries about the regrets we all have over the instances of rejection and distance that take place in the course of our lives but in the end it understands that compassion overrides everything. It is amazing that he made this when he was 39 years old― Dan S, Monday, November 18, 2019 8:28 PM (one year ago)I love when he uses his morbidity or broodingness as a set up for a punch line--in Wild Strawberries (the kids having a fist fight over whether God is dead)― Martin Van Burne, Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AMI've just finished watching Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries, and the same thing still bugs me as the first time I saw it. The scene where Professor Borg returns to his childhood home and begins to reminisce bothers me. Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those events (the strawberry patch, the dinner table) could really be his memories- he was never present when any of those things happened. They even mention how he was fishing with his father? So how does one recall certain events at which one was not present? I've looked over the scenes carefully to make sure I just wasn't looking at it wrong, but if I remember correctly, he specifically uses the term "memories"- not "dreams."― Anthony (Anthony F), Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:09 PMNot only is it still great, but its numerous moments of humour and uplift remind me once again that anyone who calls Bergman's films depressing probably only knows them to the extent that they've read their plot synopses.― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:27 PMI once tried to watch Wild Strawberries when I was on the comedown off Ecstasy. It's a great movie, but dear god, what was I thinking? I will never understand why I thought it would be suitable for that frame of mind. Had to turn it off.― mirostones, Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:41 AM
Dud: Sawdust and Tinsel, The Silence, Through a Glass Darkly, Wild Strawberries― Girolamo Savonarola, Saturday, March 12, 2005 4:11 PM
Wild Strawberries is still my favorite of all of Bergman’s films. It is expansive and kind-hearted. It worries about the regrets we all have over the instances of rejection and distance that take place in the course of our lives but in the end it understands that compassion overrides everything. It is amazing that he made this when he was 39 years old― Dan S, Monday, November 18, 2019 8:28 PM (one year ago)
I love when he uses his morbidity or broodingness as a set up for a punch line--in Wild Strawberries (the kids having a fist fight over whether God is dead)― Martin Van Burne, Monday, July 30, 2007 10:35 AM
I've just finished watching Ingmar Bergman's Wild Strawberries, and the same thing still bugs me as the first time I saw it. The scene where Professor Borg returns to his childhood home and begins to reminisce bothers me. Maybe I'm missing something, but none of those events (the strawberry patch, the dinner table) could really be his memories- he was never present when any of those things happened. They even mention how he was fishing with his father? So how does one recall certain events at which one was not present? I've looked over the scenes carefully to make sure I just wasn't looking at it wrong, but if I remember correctly, he specifically uses the term "memories"- not "dreams."― Anthony (Anthony F), Sunday, August 10, 2003 10:09 PM
Not only is it still great, but its numerous moments of humour and uplift remind me once again that anyone who calls Bergman's films depressing probably only knows them to the extent that they've read their plot synopses.― some sad trombone Twilight Zone shit (cryptosicko), Sunday, April 30, 2017 9:27 PM
I once tried to watch Wild Strawberries when I was on the comedown off Ecstasy. It's a great movie, but dear god, what was I thinking? I will never understand why I thought it would be suitable for that frame of mind. Had to turn it off.― mirostones, Sunday, April 13, 2014 9:41 AM
I like Bergman better after Winter Light, something became more natural and relaxed in his style after his 50s films, even as the tone got darker and darker.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:48 (two years ago) link
Saw it again during lockdown. Rather uptight -- he got looser after 1960
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:49 (two years ago) link
lol xpost
Is that image from the Rick Linklater remake?
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
saw 4 or 5 Bergman films on TV when I was 16/17 and cannot remember names or which bits are from which film, have been planning a rewatch for ages, must actually do it.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:53 (two years ago) link
Now somehow imaging a lost Get Smart episode, "The Day the Claw Cried."
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 20:56 (two years ago) link
― Through with “What’s the Buzz” (James Redd and the Blecchs), Tuesday, October 26, 2021 3:50 PM (eight minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
lol yes, the rosemary's baby image gave me the same thought
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:00 (two years ago) link
Catching up in between house move, so no brain energy to comment yet but two of mine have placed already: La Jetée (#8) and Meshes of the Afternoon (#13). Two honorable mention placements too for Rosemary’s Baby and Once Upon a Time in Anatolia. Makes me feel quite consensus at this point.
Most need to see Spirit of the Beehive of those that have placed so far. Most dubious about ever seeing Showgirls.
― tangent x (tangenttangent), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
How many Morbs golds are there vs. Morbs silvers?
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:09 (two years ago) link
Who, me? I voted for King of Comedy.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:10 (two years ago) link
I was just throwing a Rupert Pupkin quote in there
― ignore the blue line (or something), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
Great that the Yang has placed. That was no.9 in my ballot. Probably the most powerful screening I went to before the cinemas shut, so it has that sad association for me.
re: Rivette. Celine and Julie is probably third best after Out 1 (even in its four hour cut) and L'Amou Fou (which has yet to come out on DVD?) Paris on the verge of breakdown...
And yeah saw King of Comedy recently and it's really great and up there with Raging Bull as the Scorcese-De Niro collab. I guess it's the film that led De Niro to make all those comedies but it's great enough to weather that one...
― xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
never been into Scorcese and only saw King of Comedy for first time this year, knew I loved this film when he turned out to have a pretty good stand up routine after everything, would have been so easy/predictable to have him fail
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
Haven't seen it in a while, but wasn't he kind of terrible at stand-up? I think of those weirdly robotic arm gestures.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
No, he has a genuine rapport with the audience, and reasonably good jokes.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:34 (two years ago) link
You're thinking of DeNiro on SNL.
― Chris L, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link
Found Stanley Kauffmann's review online--I'd agree with this:
He also gets the unrhythmical quality of Rupert’s movement and gesture, epitomized in that one TV appearance. De Niro knows that Rupert has studied Langford and other comics, that he thinks he has learned how to do the stuff. But all Rupert has acquired is some of the mannerisms--the Bob Hope run-on, for instance. He doesn’t have central ease, his delivery is a collection of remembered inflections, he hasn’t a clue about what to do with his arms. Because that scene is the best in the script, De Niro, one of our best film actors, is able to blend Rupert’s imitation of professionals and his residual amateurishness into a spot of horror.
I realize you're not claiming he's great.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:08 (two years ago) link
I took his rapport with the audience to be an indictment of the audience.
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
(I did rewatch some of his monologue: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ajb8wd7jDFU.)
― clemenza, Tuesday, 26 October 2021 22:11 (two years ago) link