William Friedkin

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I think that first sentence is a pretty good description of what the film is trying to do

Dan S, Monday, 18 October 2021 00:54 (four years ago)

Maybe that was the idea, but I never felt either appalled or excited by Pacino's progress through the film - he's not even an anti-hero, he's a null.

Halfway there but for you, Monday, 18 October 2021 16:48 (four years ago)

ten months pass...

Friedkin had a birthday yesterday; he's 87. This clip is amazing.

HAPPY BIRTHDAY TO THE LEGEND MR. WILLIAM FRIEDKIN. #WilliamFriedkin

ONE OF MY FAVORITE MR. FRIEDKIN INTERVIEW MOMENT AS HE TALKS ABOUT DIFFERENT ACTING METHODS BY DIFFERENT ACTORS (Tommy Lee Jones, Benicio Del Toro and Nick Nolte)@RufusTSuperfly @firstshowing @coenesqued2 pic.twitter.com/CsefIVehlj

— . (@realsagarbhat) August 29, 2022

but also fuck you (unperson), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:41 (three years ago)

I don't like it nearly as much as "Wages of Fear," but it's a ripping, cynical adventure all the same.

OTM. "Wages of Fear" is much, much deeper.

Interestingly, Friedkin denied that "Sorcerer" was a remake. To which, LOL.

immodesty blaise (jimbeaux), Tuesday, 30 August 2022 19:50 (three years ago)

eleven months pass...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mgIDVwdD-M

Can't help but feel bad for the guy having to give up his spankin' new '71 Tempest sedan to Popeye to destroy in the chase.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 August 2023 17:25 (two years ago)

He did so much remarkable work for television. This music video is unbelievable

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RP0_8J7uxhs

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 17:27 (two years ago)

Hah -- I was coming here to post the Branigan video.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 17:36 (two years ago)

He also appears at the end of Wang Chung’s “To Live and Die in L.A.” video!

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 17:39 (two years ago)

Good interview: https://www.vulture.com/2013/05/william-friedkin-interview.html

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 17:46 (two years ago)

It turns out that the only things of his I’ve seen are The Exorcist (when I was far too young) and The French Connection (in the past decade).

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 7 August 2023 17:49 (two years ago)

I've never seen Deal of the Century, starring that glamourous duo Chevy Chase and Sigourney Weaver.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 17:58 (two years ago)

There's your cocaine noir

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:00 (two years ago)

Underrated: "The Hunter." Kind of "First Blood"y, iirc. I remember people making a (small) big deal at the time because it was one of the few action movies where characters actually got tired from fighting.

Handful of classics/masterpieces, handful of impressive minor films (like "Bug," maybe the first time people took notice of Michael Shannon on screen?). And then there's "Jade."

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:12 (two years ago)

right on, The Hunted. That's a good one. i think it's a pretty exceptional thriller, kinda no frills, TLJ and del Toro are both really good.

French Connection gets better over time, Exorcist is still great, Cruising is really something. To Live and Die in L.A. is another masterpiece, I still have friends who haven't seen it and when i convince them to do so they're usually absolutely blown away. they don't make em like that anymore, ever.

omar little, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:30 (two years ago)

I own TLADILA, Cruising, The Hunted and Sorcerer — the first 3 on DVD, the latter on Blu-Ray. They're all amazing. French Connection is solid with a few moments of greatness, but it's not nearly as bugfuck as his best movies. I've never seen The Exorcist. Bug was too terrifying to watch more than once.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 7 August 2023 18:36 (two years ago)

Killer Joe is hilarious and brilliant.

Deal of the Century is one of his worst, and surprisingly visually flat. Script is by Paul Brickman, who wrote the wonderful Citizens Band for Jonathan Demme and wrote/directed Risky Business and Men Don’t Leave, and I adore both of those to death

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:37 (two years ago)

French Connection has the best soundtrack. Even better than Sorcerer. Don Ellis on fire!

stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:42 (two years ago)

French Connection really does get better with repeat viewings, i think it's closer to something like Bullitt in some ways, and Philip D'Antoni produced both. I appreciate how they almost accidentally discover this huge criminal operation. It feels closer to real police work than some other films, something it also partially shares w/Bullitt. It's almost as downbeat as TLADILA, maybe moreso. Feels more tragic.

omar little, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:50 (two years ago)

I was very lucky to see the original 1987 cut of Rampage at the New Beverly a few years ago. Profoundly sad and distressing film

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 18:52 (two years ago)

You know, without posting spoilers for those who haven't seen it, I can't think of a thriller that yanks the rug out from under the viewer the way To Live and Die in L.A. does. I mean, the first time you see it, you'll fall right off the couch.

but also fuck you (unperson), Monday, 7 August 2023 19:29 (two years ago)

That’s one I’ve meant to see for a long while. Gotta see if it’s streaming somewhere…

The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 7 August 2023 19:34 (two years ago)

Ha, didn't know this re: Rey & The French Connection:

Fernando Rey was cast by mistake; William Friedkin wanted an actor he remembered seeing in Belle de Jour (1967), and the casting director thought it was Fernando Rey - who was hired. Only upon arriving at the airport to meet Rey did Friedkin see that it was not the actor he had been thinking of; he also learned, to his great dismay, that Rey was Spanish and spoke no French. Once at Rey's hotel (the same one he stays at in the film), Friedkin called the casting director, who realized he had confused Rey's name with that of the correct actor, Francisco Rabal. Friedkin considered firing Rey, but changed his mind once it was learned that Rabal wasn't available and didn't speak any English.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 August 2023 19:36 (two years ago)

French Connection II is astonishingly underrated. The late 10 minutes are like edging to a great, well-deserved orgasm

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 19:37 (two years ago)

And Rabal would turn up in Sorcerer.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

Rabal's French in Belle de Jour is dreadful fwiw

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 19:45 (two years ago)

That’s one I’ve meant to see for a long while. Gotta see if it’s streaming somewhere…

It ain't official but...

https://archive.org/details/7.3-to-live-and-die-in-l.-a.-1985

Ned Raggett, Monday, 7 August 2023 19:58 (two years ago)

Yeah it's good, not discussed in that interview. Sadly not seen anything bar the big hits xxxp

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 August 2023 19:59 (two years ago)

French Connection II is a Frankenheimer joint, but it's good, definitely just don't recommend anyone to go in expecting anything like the first film.

omar little, Monday, 7 August 2023 20:06 (two years ago)

Digging into the Friedkin WTF episode from '16: he originally wanted Jackie Gleason or Peter Boyle for Popeye Doyle!

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:09 (two years ago)

xp

same with the Blatty directed Exorcist 3

vodkaitamin effrtvescent (calzino), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:11 (two years ago)

hat’s one I’ve meant to see for a long while. Gotta see if it’s streaming somewhere…

― The Triumphant Return of Bernard & Stubbs (Raymond Cummings),

I always tell people to check their public libraries for DVDs and Blu-rays.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 20:20 (two years ago)

Oh, I know it’s a Frankenheimer film. Same screenwriter who wrote his absolutely crazy and hilarious 99 and 44/100% Dead. Hackman is just as good in it.

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 20:21 (two years ago)

Friedkin bribing a transit authority guy so he can do The French Connection chase, who took the money, left his job, then retired to Jamaica. No one making dreams come true like Billy Friedkin pic.twitter.com/VmOjtY4UnR

— John Frankensteiner (@JFrankensteiner) April 14, 2022

xyzzzz__, Monday, 7 August 2023 20:27 (two years ago)

Took me quite awhile to parse that he didn’t mean Jamaica, Queens.

Tommy Gets His Consoles Out (James Redd and the Blecchs), Monday, 7 August 2023 21:00 (two years ago)

RIP to an absolute legend. pic.twitter.com/cx0RuPZ44d

— kevin l. lee (@Klee_FilmReview) August 7, 2023

mookieproof, Monday, 7 August 2023 21:41 (two years ago)

I interview him years ago, and here's what he said about Wang Chung:

I was in England, and the music from their first album was all over British radio. It was a terrific sound, very unique for pop music. I contacted them, Jack Hues, we met, and I told him we were about to make the film. I gave him the script and told him to write the music based on your impressions of the script. I didn’t want him to write the score after he had seen the film. I wanted the score to influence the picture. I would talk to him at length about each scene and the characters, and he went out and wrote a couple of hours of music and mailed it to me. So I cut the movie to the score, instead of vice versa. I think it’s different when you have someone score the film after it’s done. It’s kind of upbeat! It grew on me. They play it now at basketball games, whenever the Lakers play. Even the Chicago Bulls used some of the instrumental music for two or three seasons, as their bumper music, whenever they went to a time out. Whether they were playing the Lakers or not!

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:05 (two years ago)

Digging into the Friedkin WTF episode from '16: he originally wanted Jackie Gleason or Peter Boyle for Popeye Doyle!

...and Jimmy Breslin, who actually got to read with the just-cast Roy Scheider.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 August 2023 22:21 (two years ago)

More from my archives, about casting "To Live and Die..."

That was a kind of movie god situation. I didn’t set out to hire two Chicagoans. I had a great casting director, who had cast “The French Connection.” He brought me Roy Scheider and Tony Lo Bianco. He was not really a casting director by profession. He wrote for the Village Voice, a theater critic, so he knew almost every actor and actress who were working around the country. He would go to plays everywhere, and he had a photographic memory. Well, after the "French Connection" he moved to France. When I wrote the script for "To Live and Die," I called him in France and asked him to come back and find all new people. So he went out and found Petersen, who was working at the Stratford Theatre Festival, in Stratford, Ontario, doing "Streetcar Named Desire." I flew up to see it and there were all these young women there, for him! His performance owed absolutely nothing to Brando’s, and I thought the guy was a real original. He had never done a movie. And then there was Johnny Pankow, who was recommended and who had also never done a movie.

Josh in Chicago, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:43 (two years ago)

"Listen.. I ripped everything outta there except the rocker panels."
"C'mon Irv, what the hell's that?!"

piscesx, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:50 (two years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B8dKnFU5LUE

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 August 2023 22:53 (two years ago)

I called TLADILA the ultimate "frog boiling in water" movie, Peterson becomes the actual villain of the film in such a narratively clever and seamless fashion, it's a real crafty and smart trick. Everyone's used to the "cop/agent/etc who breaks all the rules to get his man" movie but this pushes it into absolute corruption and casts all of this guy's relationships in the film in an appropriately ugly light. You see how he infects everyone around him.

omar little, Monday, 7 August 2023 22:53 (two years ago)

What’s amazing about To Live and Die in L.A. is that it completely flips the conclusion of its source novel but still arrives at essentially the same place. Novelist/co-screenwriter Gerald Petievich hates the opening of the film, as he thought that there was no need to show the job most commonly associated with secret service agents. I do have some reservations about that sequence, though, but they pertain to how Hollywood demonizes Muslims

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:00 (two years ago)

I'm amazed that so many of you have familiarity with To Live and Die in L.A. when it hasn't been released on streaming in the US. It's recently available through Kino Lorber on DVD for $27, but that is a price I'm not willing to pay.

Dan S, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:14 (two years ago)

it's on youtube, at least in the uk. has been up for 2 years so seemingly nobody cares.

stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:20 (two years ago)

It's easy to find in public libraries here; that's how I saw it years ago.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 23:20 (two years ago)

What’s amazing about To Live and Die in L.A. is that it completely flips the conclusion of its source novel but still arrives erat essentially the same place. Novelist/co-screenwriter Gerald Petievich hates the opening of the film, as he thought that there was no need to show the job most commonly associated with secret service agents. I do have some reservations about that sequence, though, but they pertain to how Hollywood demonizes Muslims

― beamish13

I noticed on Wiki and my memories of Friedkin's commentary track that he claims main scriptwriting credit. I tend to forget he had a hand in writing or re-writing most of his material.

the dreaded dependent claus (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 7 August 2023 23:20 (two years ago)

"Listen.. I ripped everything outta there except the rocker panels."
"C'mon Irv, what the hell's that?!"

all time! up there with "Picking your feet in Poughkeepsie".

stirmonster, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:21 (two years ago)

TLADILA was available on a cheap "Special Edition" DVD from MGM for ages, and it was a cable staple for decades.

an icon of a worried-looking, long-haired, bespectacled man (C. Grisso/McCain), Monday, 7 August 2023 23:23 (two years ago)

To Live and Die in L.A. is available in beautiful 35mm prints from Park Circus. Ask your independent cinematheque to screen it

beamish13, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:25 (two years ago)

On a shout factory Blu-ray which was released a few years ago.

As far as the opening, it's a little bit awkward and has aged poorly if only for the specific Ronald Reagan aspect, but it's absolutely fantastic as being a bit of audience misdirection regarding the William Petersen character.

omar little, Monday, 7 August 2023 23:56 (two years ago)


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