YEPPERS YEPPERS CARLY RAE JEPPERS is an instant classic
― Linda and Jodie Rocco (map), Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:49 (two years ago) link
thank you for expanding whiney as i agree with most of that
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:52 (two years ago) link
the other side of that is that none out of BTS, Bad Bunny, Lil Durk and Wizkid would likely have the same level of monster success without that shift
― ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
its just a loser's game trying to keep up with everything. It becomes homework and it's not fun.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:56 (two years ago) link
In 2021, I would be willing to bet hard money that there are grown adults on this website full of absolute music freaks have never **heard** billion selling monster successes like BTS and Bad Bunny and Lil Durk and Wizkid.
I used to spend a significant amount of my time and money in pursuit of new music, did college radio for years, Napstered and Limewired the shit out of stuff, took road trips just to hit record stores, etc.
Now I'm 47 and have heard BTS because my 6 year old loved them for a bit, have heard of Bad Bunny but don't know if it's a band or a person and no idea what type of music it would be, and have never heard of the last two.
― joygoat, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link
I like this and I like that, when it’s cold I wear a hat
― brimstead, Sunday, 17 October 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link
--Carly Rae Jeppers
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:00 (two years ago) link
Never heard of those four (thank god) and I only recognize bts
― calstars, Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:01 (two years ago) link
i can definitely understand missing the mass culture aspect, certainly something i was never around for
"there's too much to keep up with" is true but i don't really feel like it's a problem
music obsessives not keeping up with what's new & popular as they get older surely isn't anything though certainly it's even easier to be in your own out-of-touch bubble now than before
― ufo, Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:05 (two years ago) link
xps to whiney: the funny thing is that you listen to more music than i do and likely know more about music than i do so it's strange to me that you find a roving ear a "losers game". I am pretty sure that's just self loathing.
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:13 (two years ago) link
forks you are a born content absorber
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link
Ha, yeah, how is this possible?
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:14 (two years ago) link
i “keep up” but devote more and more time to my own personal deep listening projects and never write about new music anymore wonder why
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:15 (two years ago) link
xp multiple ply
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:16 (two years ago) link
For me, MCU is a far bigger blight than any of these others, and I like a lot of the movies! It's just that it crowds out everything else to such a degree that most cinema is rapidly dying off.
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Sunday, 17 October 2021 03:17 (two years ago) link
Though Whiney did listen through the whole John Zorn catalog, so that's no small potatoes.
BTS only makes me think of the BTK serial killer. Get a new name guys!
― Typo? Negative! (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 17 October 2021 04:47 (two years ago) link
I don't think the fracturing of the monoculture can be attributed to streaming, though; it started in the Soundscan era, when we first learned what records people were actually buying. Pantera fans generally didn't give a shit about Garth Brooks, and vice versa, but both hit #1.
Personally, I hate generalist music criticism — glib fuckers pretending they know something about everything. I'm glad to see that kind of thing dying out. It's much better to have a galaxy of specialists out there. If I want to really learn something about electronic music, there are three or four writers I know I can read. If I want to really learn something about metal, same deal. If I want to learn something about country...well, that will never happen, but you get the idea.
― but also fuck you (unperson), Sunday, 17 October 2021 12:08 (two years ago) link
Voted NFL. It is not the one that creates the most harm (that would be social media.) Like social media, the harms it imposes (not just to NFL players but to many, many more younger people who aspire to the NFL or just love playing football in a way that NFL as popular entertainment institution inspires and encourages) are combined with goods (people like and enjoy and draw authentic meaning from following football teams over the years and decades.) But I think the good that the NFL offers is more easily substituted for than the good that social media offers. Obviously there is room for disagreement here but I think NBA, MLB, etc. can largely fill in the psychic gap that would be left if football were no more. I'm a baseball guy and yes it would be keenly sad for me if baseball went away but I truly believe that my other sports fandoms would expand to fill the empty space in a modest amount of time.
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Sunday, 17 October 2021 21:37 (two years ago) link
― Typo? Negative! (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, October 17, 2021 12:47 AM (seventeen hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
otm glad someone finally said it
― ciderpress, Sunday, 17 October 2021 22:15 (two years ago) link
As a lifelong Miami Dolphins fan I’m leaning towards NFL
― Josefa, Sunday, 17 October 2021 23:05 (two years ago) link
MCU probably annoys me the most out of these but the idea of social media going away actually feels EXCITING in an almost sci-fi way, like, it's honestly difficult to imagine what life would be like even tho I lived through several decades of it. And without it I mostly wouldn't have to listen to what MCU fans have to say so all I'd have to do would be not go to the fucking movies and I'd be golden.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 October 2021 10:06 (two years ago) link
The success of the MCU is such a poisoned well. I wish I could just enjoy some fun superhero trash without every dummy in the world feeling the need to have An Opinion about it (apologies to dummies itt).Social media obviously the worst thing to happen to humanity in some time, not really even a contest. Maybe less so if it had been introduced at some point in the far future where the surviving humans' brains had evolved sufficiently to handle it without it turning them into frothing hate mongers who would gleefully immolate their entire family just to own someone who disagrees with them.Write-in for SNL. Pass away peacefully in your sleep, please, it is time now.
― Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 October 2021 12:57 (two years ago) link
I'm a fully convicted professional sports abolitionist, but even I was briefly tempted by the Marvel option.
― Nature's promise vs. Simple truth (bernard snowy), Monday, 18 October 2021 13:17 (two years ago) link
i'm not sure SNL is really a phenomenally popular american entertainment institution, even in comparison to broadway
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2021 13:20 (two years ago) link
How is it still alive then, how
― Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 October 2021 13:23 (two years ago) link
time slot no one cares about
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 18 October 2021 13:28 (two years ago) link
snl is extremely popular (5+ million linear viewers per week on a weekend night plus 1.5+ billion youtube views on sketches from last season) and i’ll add a write-in to that pile.
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Monday, 18 October 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link
i'm not saying it's not popular, i'm saying in comparison to Marvel or NFL and Netflix and Facebook it's not at the same weightyou could argue that SNL is as/more popular as the true crime podcast genre but that's another poll
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2021 14:22 (two years ago) link
SNL is a true crime
― Guayaquil (eephus!), Monday, 18 October 2021 14:27 (two years ago) link
The success of the MCU is such a poisoned well. I wish I could just enjoy some fun superhero trash without every dummy in the world feeling the need to have An Opinion about it (apologies to dummies itt).
This is my take as well, the movies are mostly fine and I like watching them. Let's all just stop talking about them so much. Ideally we reduce the discussion to me and my son discussing them for 10 minutes every time we watch a new movie or episode.
― silverfish, Monday, 18 October 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link
dont really care about the mcu but i would vote for disney as a whole
― ciderpress, Monday, 18 October 2021 14:44 (two years ago) link
i'm not saying it's not popular, i'm saying in comparison to Marvel or NFL and Netflix and Facebook it's not at the same weight
I think that opinion is complete and total nonsense given the absolute glut of SNL alumni across popular media since its inception, including:
Jimmy FallonWill FerrellAdam SandlerRobert Downey, JrAidy BryantJulia Louis-DreyfusTina FeyAmy PoehlerAndy SambergJason SudeikisSeth MeyersKristin WiigKate McKinnonKenan ThompsonPete DavidsonSarah SilvermanBen StillerFred ArmisenTim RobinsonNasim PedradJenny SlateCecily StrongMolly ShannonWill ForteChris RockChris ParnellBill MurrayJane CurtinMike MyersVanessa BayerJaneane GarofaloAna GasteyerLeslie JonesEddie MurphyJohn BelushiDan AckroydAl FrankenGilbert GottfriedChris ElliottJoan CusackChevy ChaseJim BelushiGilda RadnerRandy QuaidDennis MillerJay MohrKevin NealonRob SchneiderChris FarleyDavid SpadeRob RiggleChristine Ebersole
And that's not including ringers like Christopher Guest, Mark McKinney, Billy Crystal, or Martin Short
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Monday, 18 October 2021 14:45 (two years ago) link
In order to stop talking about MCU, we would need to shut down all social media plus Disney's marketing department. So yeah, sounds good, let's do it.
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Monday, 18 October 2021 14:46 (two years ago) link
I mean I get why everyone has an opinion about the MCU and I get the criticism (particularly in terms of its negative impact upon the medium), I just wish that when they finally got around to making a superhero franchise I actually like that it had only wound up being just successful enough to perpetuate itself without becoming so ubiquitous as to prompt a hot take from every disinterested party under the sun.
― Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 October 2021 14:50 (two years ago) link
here's the thing about social media going away - I wish only 'parts' would go away.
The parts I wish would stay:
-being able to keep in touch with people who live out of state/say hello-being able to keep tabs on family-being able to post statuses on what you're doing that nobody can respond to
the parts I wish would go away:
-Messenger, so I don't have people msging me all day and acting funny if they don't get an immediate reply (which never happened w/ texting for me)
-Political GIF memes
-all of the toxicity
-the ability for two friends who don't know each other to tell each other joining a political thread, then saying they hope the other dies in a car accident
so in conclusion I changed my mind, get rid of social media
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:07 (two years ago) link
I thought the first Avengers movie was one of the most overhyped movies ever made, it was like 2 1/2 hours of a strobe light going off in your face. admittedly the other ones I've seen have been pretty good
that said both MCU and the modern radio scene kinda suffer from the same bullshit where making a hit involves pooling together as many famous people as possible. when you put on pop radio everything is like Adam Levine ft. Cardi B ft. BTS & Nicki Minaj or whatever. every Katy Perry video now has like cameos from Rebecca Black or some other niche celebrity. which leads to stuff like Ready Player One & Free Guy getting greenlit and making tons of money and now that's all pop culture is
― frogbs, Monday, 18 October 2021 15:11 (two years ago) link
I think that opinion is complete and total nonsense
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:20 (two years ago) link
endless guest spots in pop music is indeed another thing I'd like to see go away
― Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:23 (two years ago) link
presenting a list of people who've been on SNL and saying that everything they've ever done thereafter is an extension of SNL is like saying that stan lee created the Marvel Cinematic Universe
I don't think you understand the way people categorize things
― talkin' about his flat tire (DJP), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
snl does blanket culture beyond the show itself, i’m sympathetic to djp’s point
it is also popular way out of proportion with its quality. i at least *understand* why these other things are popular
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:32 (two years ago) link
Like although I loved it for most of my life, I readily acknowledge that SNL has always been bad. But every time I see some random clip from its current incarnation, it is a level of bad that easily outdoes the general level of badness in the past. I'll accept that some degree of its perceived badness is because I am now an old with the perspective and opinions of an old, but that surely can't account for all of the badness.
― Gimme some skin! Because I don't have any skin. (Old Lunch), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:39 (two years ago) link
i at least *understand* why these other things are popular
SNL's popularity doesn't strike me as much of a mystery? People like celebrities and they like being able to talk about stuff w/ their work colleagues. It doesn't really have to go any deeper than that.
― Daniel_Rf, Monday, 18 October 2021 15:42 (two years ago) link
sketches are also easier and quicker to digest, it's easy to pull up your phone and show your friend a 5 minute sketch they haven't seen then to force them to watch a 30 minute show or 2 hour movie.
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:44 (two years ago) link
every thread ultimately turning into a discussion about SNL is some sort of manifestation of godwin's law
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:55 (two years ago) link
SNL, Not See teevee
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Monday, 18 October 2021 15:56 (two years ago) link
poster dressed as ned raggett in cold open to thread live! from new answers!
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 October 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
people loving to watch torturously unfunny comedy shows is a mystery to me every time
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Monday, 18 October 2021 16:26 (two years ago) link
in the MCU, dr strange scans an incomprehensibly large number of possible futures for music consumption, desperately searching for timelines that restrain Hot Hot Heat to obscurity -- there's only one.
― John Lakeman gives pipe lecture (Sufjan Grafton), Monday, 18 October 2021 16:29 (two years ago) link
Need a choice for "all of the above" but nuke the NFL once and for all.
― Elvis Telecom, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 00:56 (two years ago) link