David Goyer adapting Asimov's Foundation books for Apple+ (Previously: Jonathan Nolan adapting Asimov's Foundation books for HBO)

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unnecessary flashback, and i'm starting to worry that things are so stretched out because they don't have enough story

mookieproof, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:49 (four years ago)

Yeah the first part flashback was little more than addendum -- could have done that in even a couple of minutes I think -- but excellent build of weird tension throughout. Now that we have the big reveal at the end that answers a few questions at least, more to come.

I gotta give Goyer this much, he may (may) have pulled a Lindelof in getting a good creative team together to actually do something that's more watchable than expected. Depends on how they stick the season landing but halfway through this season, I'm good with it.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:57 (four years ago)

Season ending but season landing works!

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 20:57 (four years ago)

lol how crap was that imperial ship, just one surface to air shot and it's completely taken out.

calzino, Friday, 15 October 2021 21:01 (four years ago)

"Say Captain there's some big gun pointed our direction."

"Eh whatever."

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 21:02 (four years ago)

I want less action

Maresn3st, Friday, 15 October 2021 22:54 (four years ago)

But I thought everybody wanted a piece of the *is stifled*

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 22:57 (four years ago)

Fight scene zzzzz, innocents in a settlement being terrorized by soldiers zzzzz, gimme more standing around in very high ceilinged rooms plz

Maresn3st, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:04 (four years ago)

so [redacted] designed his own space coffin and then something happens at the end of this ep. That would be a good way of skipping a few boring decades on Terminus but not so good for his accomplice! Yeah I prefer the long boring bits to the action as well.

calzino, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:09 (four years ago)

Agreed re trying to figure things out on a deserted ship.

Ned Raggett, Friday, 15 October 2021 23:37 (four years ago)

less 'action' is fine (and that fight scene was terrible) but this whole sequence with the offworlders -- which is really pretty straight-forward? -- is now going to leak into a fourth episode

we long ago knew which defenders were righteous and which were lame; let us move on to the next stage already

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:33 (four years ago)

But the invaders have a plan and as we know in serial TV SF when it's stated there's a plan everything is plotted out to the last desire. Anyway there must be some kind of way out of here.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 16 October 2021 00:36 (four years ago)

of course! but let's get to it. i don't need a flashback of anacreon being devastated for 20 minutes to establish motive.

btw am i alone in wishing that hari was not being pronounced 'harry'

i'm sure we can all look forward to my similar complaints whenever dune hits the torrentz and i manage to watch it! <3 <3

mookieproof, Saturday, 16 October 2021 02:25 (four years ago)

"Say Captain there's some big gun pointed our direction."

"Eh whatever."


Wasn't the gun what they cloaked earlier in the episode?

groovypanda, Monday, 18 October 2021 21:42 (four years ago)

Didn't seem clear it was still cloaked by the time it was just 1K away.

Ned Raggett, Monday, 18 October 2021 22:28 (four years ago)

It probably makes a good point about decadent colonial powers on the wane. Just fly in there expecting an easy rout and then get taken out by one well aimed shot.

calzino, Monday, 18 October 2021 22:47 (four years ago)

Oh it wasn't clear at all,. I just assumed it must be otherwise what was the point of the whole cloaking scene in the first place xp

groovypanda, Tuesday, 19 October 2021 05:55 (four years ago)

Getting pretty Game of Thronesy here

Ned Raggett, Friday, 22 October 2021 23:22 (four years ago)

gonna name my next cat 'empire'

mookieproof, Friday, 22 October 2021 23:40 (four years ago)

A rotating trio of cat

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 00:14 (four years ago)

my biological father has had a series of (i think siamese) cats going back decades and named each of them 'mozart'

which is . . . fucking horrific, honestly. but would have certainly made better sense with 'empire'

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 October 2021 00:26 (four years ago)

This show needs a cat emperor.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 23 October 2021 02:37 (four years ago)

obviously he should have named the cats duncan idaho

mookieproof, Saturday, 23 October 2021 03:04 (four years ago)

really enjoying the show but the lingering "ok, they've set up several events that are going to happen... maybe in the next episode?" feeling continues because apparently we have more things to go through

mh, Saturday, 23 October 2021 15:42 (four years ago)

Hmm at the ending of this latest one. (I'm...assuming at this point the idea is that Hari set up both the Raven and the Vault so he can chill near Helicon and deliver live updates via the Vault or something. And Gaal like...hibernates in between crises? Guess we'll see!)

Ned Raggett, Friday, 29 October 2021 22:47 (four years ago)

saddened that the phrase 'what's your ask' will still be in use 10,000 years from now

mookieproof, Saturday, 30 October 2021 00:57 (four years ago)

On the other hand, good to know that Touch ID will still work after 700 years

stet, Friday, 5 November 2021 02:58 (four years ago)

oh no my first law of robotics

mookieproof, Friday, 5 November 2021 12:35 (four years ago)

When “Foundation” Gets the Blockbuster Treatment, Isaac Asimov’s Vision Gets Lost

some points, some misses imo

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 20:24 (four years ago)

Two episodes in, I feel like it's a lot of telling rather than showing, just a lot of exposition and CGI backgrounds.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 20:53 (four years ago)

Real 300/Zack Snyder's Owl Movie vibe.

papal hotwife (milo z), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 20:54 (four years ago)

I feel like it's a lot of telling rather than showing

well this is true to Asimov's vision

Chappies banging dustbin lids together (President Keyes), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:14 (four years ago)

haha otm

mookieproof, Wednesday, 10 November 2021 21:47 (four years ago)

Lol.

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 10 November 2021 23:34 (four years ago)

Burn...

Elvis Telecom, Thursday, 11 November 2021 00:23 (four years ago)

Martin Skidmore to thread!

Exploding Plastic Bertrand (James Redd and the Blecchs), Thursday, 11 November 2021 00:41 (four years ago)

idk man

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 November 2021 17:55 (four years ago)

Mm. It's definitely heading towards a 'huh' season ender at this rate.

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:15 (four years ago)

i haven't been bored (except by the narration), so that's cool. just seems like we're still more or less in the same place we were six episodes ago

mookieproof, Saturday, 13 November 2021 18:27 (four years ago)

Meantime we got this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H5CBWy17y70

Ned Raggett, Sunday, 14 November 2021 17:48 (four years ago)

How does a robot have a religious belief!?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:32 (four years ago)

I like this show, but I think I'm glad I never read the books.

Visually, I keep thinking of what someone could do with an Earthsea adaptation (yeah again, I know), with the right casting finally, and stuff like Ged finding the floating city in the ocean and etc.

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Monday, 15 November 2021 00:33 (four years ago)

I'm enjoying this as well. Sometimes some half decent sci-fi shit is just what you need and best avoiding the plethora of hottakes!

calzino, Monday, 15 November 2021 00:44 (four years ago)

well. sucks to be azura

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 November 2021 21:13 (four years ago)

We were saying she'd be better off just jumping into the pond than what lay ahead.

Also, did not see what Demerzel did coming. But maybe its because she too is beginning to go against her nature (same as brother dawn and day seem to have)? I mean shes a robot so that shouldnt be possible, but ...

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:57 (four years ago)

hmm tried to be vague but is that too spoilery?

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Saturday, 20 November 2021 22:58 (four years ago)

appreciated that brother dusk angrily flung the stuff at his painting with his *left* hand, and wonder whether that was done on purpose

anyway, solid finale with some unexpected things -- i look forward to the next season whenever that is

mookieproof, Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:22 (four years ago)

Yeah it's definitely not Asimov's story anymore, broadest of outlines aside. Still, I'll watch. Wondering if the time jump means going straight to Hober Mallow (and thus skipping the thoroughly cynical view of religion in the intervening Seldon crisis).

Ned Raggett, Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:33 (four years ago)

xp

well spotted there [what was posted in hidden text] probably was on purpose.

calzino, Saturday, 20 November 2021 23:40 (four years ago)

Yes, I missed that!

Stoop Crone (Trayce), Sunday, 21 November 2021 00:44 (four years ago)


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