Defend the Indefensible - Concrete Architecture

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hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:16 (twenty years ago) link

sorry. My Pc appears to be going mental.

hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

Ronan Point?!

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

the only grant for Park hill shjould be to demolish it, not sure what it's like now to be honest, but back when I was thirteen/fourteen it was the place that we dared each other to go to the top of. There was crap and needles everywhere

chris (chris), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

we may also be forgetting that any the vast majority of buildings look ten times nice on a bright sunny day. well i find that anyway.

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:17 (twenty years ago) link

retardotype, escuse me

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:18 (twenty years ago) link

should i make a badly drawn kitten attack another building? or should i not bother?

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:25 (twenty years ago) link

Ronan Point as an example of bad corbusier derived modernist concrete architecture with right angles, Roehampton as an example of good corbusier derived concrete modernist architecture with right angles.

xpost

Oh go on, why not.

hmmm (hmmm), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:28 (twenty years ago) link

Badly Drawn Kitten definitely needs a go at the Tricorn. They're demolishing the thing anyway, what better way to go than obliterated by a giant cat?

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:32 (twenty years ago) link

Also, if BDK won't do it, TANKPUSS will!

http://alantrewartha.20m.com/cattank-t.jpg

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:35 (twenty years ago) link

Oh, sorry about that picture - it didn't look like that when I tried it out before posting.

Yes, it is Marina City in Chicago and the building on the Wilco album - you should look up Bertrand Goldberg if you like it.

I'll ask the mods to take it down and use the link instead.

Kerry (dymaxia), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:39 (twenty years ago) link

Badly Drawn Kit stikes again!

http://www.kittenrecords.co.uk/archkit.jpg

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:41 (twenty years ago) link

i meant strikes again, obv.
got too excited about it and mistyped all over the motherfucker.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:42 (twenty years ago) link

it's amazing how difficult it is, to find good images, online.

tadao ando.

http://www46.tok2.com/home/arc/osaka/galleria_akka_01.jpg http://www.philau.edu/schools/add/ugradmajors/Architecture/BuildingTech/Images/KidosakiExt.jpg

RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:49 (twenty years ago) link

the mast Ed talks of (I think):
http://myweb.tiscali.co.uk/eric.ellis/images/emley_moor_new.jpg

chris (chris), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:51 (twenty years ago) link

Pictures of Park Hill please - bit hard to Google for if you don't know what you're looking for.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:52 (twenty years ago) link

(x-post) you can see that from my father in law's house! IICR its predecessor blew over one stormy night.

Pashmina (Pashmina), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:53 (twenty years ago) link

Park Hill is pictured upthread

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

obviously, found on a pulp site:
http://www.pulppeople.plus.com/Sheffield/parkhill.jpg

chris (chris), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:54 (twenty years ago) link

That's fucking horrible.

Matt DC (Matt DC), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:55 (twenty years ago) link

they're grade 2 listed for sobbing out loud

http://society.guardian.co.uk/housing/story/0,7890,496657,00.html

chris (chris), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:56 (twenty years ago) link

ah well there's always...

http://tube.tfl.gov.uk/content/metro/01/0109/21/hoover.jpg

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:58 (twenty years ago) link

Bilbao airport:
http://www.renteria.net/album/display/314.jpg

chris (chris), Friday, 16 April 2004 13:59 (twenty years ago) link

i quite like http://www.gainsboroughstudios.co.uk, pass it on my work to every day

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

you all loved it, i can tell. that took me... 7 minutes!

bah.

g-kit (g-kit), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:00 (twenty years ago) link

one of my favourites, berthold lubetkin. a real crime there aren't more images, to find.

london zoo's penguin pool:

http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/penguin/ppool.jpg http://www.galinsky.com/buildings/penguin/ppoolramps.jpg

highpoints:

http://housingprototypes.org/images/highpoint_01.jpg http://housingprototypes.org/images/images/highpoint_03.jpg

RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:02 (twenty years ago) link

The Hoover building is lovely.

robster (robster), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:03 (twenty years ago) link

Roehampton:
'Prominent Modernists like Alison and Peter Smithson, (often called 'New Brutalists'), worried that fellow architects and planners were keen to develop a softer, 'humanist,' Modernism, along the lines of the architecture of the Swedish welfare state. This architecture was more cautious than pre-war Modernism, and tended to be more in tune with the national vernacular.'

damn those fuxoring peasants

'However, the external decoration of the houses at Alton East irked the hardline Modernist faction in the London County Council's Architects' Department. The brightly coloured brickwork, painted window frames and wide bands of concrete at regular intervals on the exterior were all considered frivolous, and lacking any obvious function. However, the housing at Alton East has proved to be popular with residents.'

yeahyeahyeah but what do they know...

'The absence of frivolous detailing and the angular simplicity of the concrete frames signalled a return to basic Modernist principles.'

where did they get the idea that modernism wasn't some kind of aesthetic (= 'frivolous') in itself ?
'functionality' <=> dressed-up aesthetic preferences

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:24 (twenty years ago) link

that's the joke, SM.

RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 April 2004 14:40 (twenty years ago) link

i have no time for such frivolity

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link


:' (

RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:18 (twenty years ago) link

fret not RJG - some of yr pictures on this thread were part of heducating me that concrete !necessarily = dud, thus giving me a more +ve outlook
this is a good thing :)

Snowy Mann (rdmanston), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

:'''')

RJG (RJG), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:30 (twenty years ago) link

:') always makes me think of Adam Ant

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

or Nelly

stevem (blueski), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:36 (twenty years ago) link

quight right with emley not ilkeston

Ed (dali), Friday, 16 April 2004 15:43 (twenty years ago) link

http://storm.prohosting.com/dannywin/graphics/osaka-castle.jpg

Mary (Mary), Saturday, 17 April 2004 23:38 (twenty years ago) link

I just spent the last six years of my life living only a few hundred metres from the base of this GIANT seventies monstrosity, so I have an odd affection for it.

http://archidiecezja.lodz.pl/da5/wakacje/toronto/CN%20Tower%20w%20Toronto.jpg

Kim (Kim), Sunday, 18 April 2004 00:10 (twenty years ago) link

a couple of years ago i went to the RIBA (royal institute of british architects?)'s exhibit about concrete buildings, and it was just so cool. there's some amazing things that have been done and can be done. i think that, like any material, concrete can be used in creative and beautiful ways, or really boring and ugly ways.

sadly, since i'm at my parents' house on dialup, i can't look at all the pictures you're all talking about...

colette (a2lette), Sunday, 18 April 2004 00:20 (twenty years ago) link

The Gateway Arch is actually giant triangular cross-sectioned segments of welded stainless steel. Just wanted to make sure you realize the magnitude of Badly Drawn Kit's accomplishment.

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:41 (twenty years ago) link

The Sculptured House outside of Denver, famous from exterior shots in Sleeper:

http://images.forbes.com/images/2002/09/09/how1_415x288.jpg

Architect Charles Deaton. I'm looking for a picture of the this weirdass looking bank building in Littleton that he did, too...

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 18 April 2004 02:52 (twenty years ago) link

http://www.friends-ues.org/images/217e87whole.jpg

The Group Residence for Young Adults was one of the rare examples of Brutalist architecture in New York City...and it was just demolished not long ago, leaving a big empty lot in my neighborhood.

Michael Daddino (epicharmus), Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:10 (twenty years ago) link

Ha, more on Sculptured House--

www.kentwoodhomestour.com/sculpturedhouse/home.html

Hunter (Hunter), Sunday, 18 April 2004 03:19 (twenty years ago) link

Some more shots of habitat '67 (moshe safdie)

http://www.brynmawr.edu/Acads/Cities/imgb/imgb3/220a.jpg


from far away it looks like pixelized rock. I can't find a good pic from the front to show what I mean, but heres the closest thing I could find:

http://cac.mcgill.ca/cac/bland/building/pictures/full/700-66.jpg

Elliot (Elliot), Sunday, 18 April 2004 08:48 (twenty years ago) link

The Humber bridge: one of the first suspension bridges to be built with concrete towers.

http://www.yorkshire-tour.co.uk/yt/assets/photos/HB_ws2.jpg

I tend to like the interiors of Brutalist buildings, but not the exteriors. Examples: the concourse of Euston station, or the foyer of Edinburgh university library.

caitlin (caitlin), Sunday, 18 April 2004 08:57 (twenty years ago) link

Less talk, more pictures. I love that one Sebastian and Elliot linked to.

Sick Nouthall (Nick Southall), Sunday, 18 April 2004 09:04 (twenty years ago) link


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