Precious list, not previous. Ugh!
― Jaq, Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:01 (two years ago) link
Miso? That has an S though!
Ah you’re right we never get S’s - I think i was mixing it up with my nyt crossword words lol
anyway the point was mirin should totally be in the list, as should nori!
― Roz, Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:25 (two years ago) link
I agree that MIRIN should be accepted, especially since UDON is a regular word in SB.
― Leee Tigre (Leee), Thursday, 14 October 2021 21:40 (two years ago) link
today's omissions included undaunted
― Dan S, Thursday, 14 October 2021 21:59 (two years ago) link
and untenanted >:[
― just sayin, Thursday, 14 October 2021 22:17 (two years ago) link
today's omissions included undaunted― Dan S, Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:59 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Dan S, Thursday, October 14, 2021 2:59 PM (twenty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
i literally thought i was going nuts so tried it a second time. still can't believe that omission.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Thursday, 14 October 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
xp I couldn't even think of tenant
― Dan S, Thursday, 14 October 2021 22:31 (two years ago) link
And exudate!
― Jaq, Friday, 15 October 2021 00:49 (two years ago) link
This is the problem with a hand curated word list, omissions like undaunted are bound to happen.
― Leee Tigre (Leee), Friday, 15 October 2021 01:04 (two years ago) link
Ugly letters today, I got spoiled on two words and I didn't even mind it.
― Leee Tigre (Leee), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:09 (two years ago) link
Yeah I got to Genius and am stuck with 22 words in. Feels like there should be more in there, but there just aren't.
― Extinct Namibian shrub genus: Var. (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 15 October 2021 15:45 (two years ago) link
there were only a few words that had more than 5 letters. I got chichi, archaic and harridan but couldn't get the pangram today arachnid or anarchic
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 October 2021 01:14 (two years ago) link
as far as puzzles go, I'm getting much better at the NYT hard sudoku and the LAT expert sudoku. The LAT impossible sudoku is still a challenge, because it requires visualiziing multiple moves in advance to solve it
― Dan S, Saturday, 16 October 2021 01:30 (two years ago) link
I've been doing the NYT hard sudoku too! I think today's will stymie me though.
I got QB today, which is much more tractable than yesterday's, even though 2-4 of the words imo stretch the definition of common.
― Leee Tigre (Leee), Saturday, 16 October 2021 17:50 (two years ago) link
I feel like a DUNCE for falling one word short of yesterday's QB.
― Leee Tigre (Leee), Monday, 18 October 2021 17:13 (two years ago) link
When you get to QB, does it change from Genius so you know? Because it seems unlikely I will get to that point and see it in person.
― Jaq, Monday, 18 October 2021 17:58 (two years ago) link
i think it’s the first time i got to genius without discovering a single 4 letter
― scanner darkly, Monday, 18 October 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
xp yep a little graphic screen and everything
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 18 October 2021 18:54 (two years ago) link
Nice! Something to strive for
― Jaq, Monday, 18 October 2021 19:02 (two years ago) link
QB status mostly eludes me. I usually do these in the morning. I get to Genius and stop. By the next morning I forget where my mind was, what avenues I'd pursued, and what I'd tried and hadn't tried, so seeing the answers the next day isn't very illuminating.
An exception: a few days ago I was already at Genius trying to get to Queen Bee. I think I saw, but didn't try, "ladyland". Turns out the word I was missing was the rather more pedestrian "landlady." Reader, I kicked myself.
― Karmagideon Time (Ye Mad Puffin), Monday, 18 October 2021 19:13 (two years ago) link
electric landlady
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Monday, 18 October 2021 19:28 (two years ago) link
lodger? i ardly even knew er
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Monday, 18 October 2021 19:54 (two years ago) link
Yesterday's omissions included DETUNE and DETUNED which I thought was weird
They also omitted UNCEDED and I thought they might do something good and include it next time so I wrote them asking them to do so
― flamboyant goon tie included, Monday, 18 October 2021 20:57 (two years ago) link
yeah not accepting UNCEDED is pretty ridiculousDETUNE/DETUNED also (esp considering UNTUNED was accepted) but it’s one of those commonly used but not formally defined tech terms maybe
xp i was pretty disappointed getting QB was just the same screen you get for genius, was hoping for fireworks or something
― scanner darkly, Monday, 18 October 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link
also missing yesterday were unindicted and untended
― Dan S, Monday, 18 October 2021 21:23 (two years ago) link
Yesterday had FALAFEL and FLAUTA but not TEFF or FUFU, which are staple foods in Africa.
― jaymc, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link
But how many US citizens know what a falafel is versus what injera is? I mean, I get your point, but they sell glorified flautas at 7-11.
― I'm a sovereign jizz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:15 (two years ago) link
teff was a v weird omission imo
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link
For some perverse reason I thought "tuff" would work.
So. There are areas where Sam is decently conversant and others where he isn't. Birds yes, geology no. Foods kinda. Graphic design and book production no, but jocular loanwords (caca, nada, primo) yes.
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:48 (two years ago) link
chica but no mami iirc
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 17:56 (two years ago) link
Right, and mama but not dada.
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:10 (two years ago) link
Instead of getting incensed I find it kind of fascinating. As noted above, I am 1000% certain that my own vocabulary is full of blind spots and inconsistencies. But then, I don't have my idiosyncratic judg(e)ments paraded in front of the sentient world by the New York Fucking Times. Which is as it should be.
Would it be better or worse to have a committee, something like Merriam-Webster's usage panel? Possibly worse. As we've found, committees have blind spots too. Would it be better or worse to still have one person, but instead it's a different person? Like, say, Bryan Garner or James McBride or Gretchen McCullough. Or, for that matter, Will "Eat My" Shortz.
For everyone who found Garner too prescriptive you'd have someone who found McCullough too lenient.
So I keep coming back to: might as well be Sam (for all my gripes)
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
one person, but instead it's a different person
^ this
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:25 (two years ago) link
food is where the arbitrariness of including some obscure words but not others is most obvious imo
getting really good at italian and indian food names though!
― scanner darkly, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 19:37 (two years ago) link
Hes a disaster imo, its the inclusion of absolutely obscure specialist jargon as and when suits him and the omission of perfectly valid but rare words besides
I hate him
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:07 (two years ago) link
Then go do a different free fun thing maybe?
Just a thpught
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:44 (two years ago) link
*thought
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link
no we're through the looking glass, ymp, locked in an embrace of hate, entwined in a spiral down that last endless staircase
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:47 (two years ago) link
Ok
Enjoy
Meanwhile I feel like there a whole lot of other entertainment options on offer and you could just, y'know, go do those things
Or not
Whatevs
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:50 (two years ago) link
but it's such a good game. its current steward is simply for the birds. specifically, the nene
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 20 October 2021 20:58 (two years ago) link
Watch Sam whip
Watch Sam nene
― mothersbaugh of invention (Ye Mad Puffin), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:11 (two years ago) link
If I ever see a nene in the wild I will divide it up into 4 parts and package them in 4 boxes and send all of them to Sam by special post.
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:16 (two years ago) link
It is thought that the nene evolved from the Canada goose (Branta canadensis), which most likely arrived on the Hawaiian islands about 500,000 years ago, shortly after the island of Hawaiʻi was formed. This ancestor is the progenitor of the nene as well as the prehistoric giant Hawaiʻi goose (Branta rhuax)[5] and nēnē-nui (Branta hylobadistes). The nēnē-nui was larger than the nene, varied from flightless to flighted depending on the individual, and inhabited the island of Maui. Similar fossil geese found on Oʻahu and Kauaʻi may be of the same species. The giant Hawaiʻi goose was restricted to the island of Hawaiʻi and measured 1.2 m (3.9 ft) in length with a mass of 8.6 kg (19 lb), making it more than four times larger than the nene.
o__O
― Ima Gardener (in orbit), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:21 (two years ago) link
Its not free, that's for starters
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:31 (two years ago) link
The fun is locked in with the hate, that's additional
My posts are free btw, you could read other ones by the same token
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 20 October 2021 21:32 (two years ago) link
I don't mind the quirks, it's part of the fun. today I got dammit, which surprised me
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 October 2021 01:06 (two years ago) link
quirks are fine, it’s the inconsistency that irksnene is fine, pudu, not so much
a few weeks ago there was a perfectly reasonable word it didn’t accept which also happened to be a pangram, that was esp annoying
― scanner darkly, Thursday, 21 October 2021 02:50 (two years ago) link
pudu? I've never seen that word before
It's just a game determined by someone else's rules, I still like playing it
― Dan S, Thursday, 21 October 2021 03:04 (two years ago) link
lol people who enjoy this game are also people who are more likely to complain about the rules applied inconsistentlybut yeah that’s kinda part of the charm i suppose
i’m just curious how the process works, the word list must be generated automatically and then vetoed
― scanner darkly, Thursday, 21 October 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link