On Sinema at the Sinema: October 2021 US Politics thread

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is "yuma sector" anything other than a borders patrol / ICE designation? how creepy to be in front of a national audience and use these jargony terms as if everyone knew them (on hannity, they probably did). it's like, we're all looking at the border as a series of military sectors and migrants as enemy invaders, right? how is Sector 7-URF doing? what about 7-URF, LINDSEY

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

the 40,000 brazilians with gucci bags sounds like a lindsey graham version on the 30-50 feral hogs meme to me

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

Now Get This!
We feed the lies to the graham
And the graham to the hann
And get the gucci bags for nothing!

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

Braz-ill-i-Ans

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

I can’t think of any recent precedent for potential primary challenges to a sitting Senator. Anyone? Atrocious numbers. https://t.co/0IgHi3gDrt pic.twitter.com/DqvRJGKMfV

— Taniel (@Taniel) October 14, 2021

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

wait til she turns on her Sinemagic

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

i really do wish they'd list "anyone but sinema" as an option on polls like this

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

lolll Karl

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

i really do wish they'd list "anyone but sinema" as an option on polls like this

― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:10 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not exactly that question, but approval/disapproval was 25/70 in the same poll.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

yeah, but just to make it really explicit for the headlines

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

right. i think the reason pollsters don't waste a question on that is pretty much every politician loses to "anyone but this guy" because voters can imagine a candidate that doesn't exist.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

25/70 is *insane* btw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

T/S: the esteem of your constituents vs. the esteem of those sliding you envelopes filled with money in smokey backrooms

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

fun story about how she doesn't have any friends any more and seems to be deliberately commiting social suicide

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

"We'll put up the funds for your election campaign.
Oh, uh, waiter? Can you bring the champagne?"

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

She’s like the Kyrie Irving of the Senate, there’s no rhyme or reason to anything she’s doing unless she’s intentionally trying to make everyone dislike her

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

“It’s not effective to pressure me on anything,” she said. “Because I am a thoughtful person who takes a lot of time, deliberatively, to make decisions, once I’ve made a decision, I feel very comfortable with it. And it doesn’t matter what other people think.”

Good thing she doesn't represent people whose interests might diverge from her own.

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

Christ, she's such a cartoon villain at this point.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

she also hasn't made a decision, or if she has, hasn't told anyone what decision she's made. unless that decision is "willfully obstruct this whole deal because i want to"

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

She's deliberating!

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

my impression is that she articulated some specific demands to the president but refuses to make those public because they would be extremely unpopular

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

imagine if she were extremely unpopular

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

if both bills somehow end up getting passed, I suspect a lot of her antics will be quickly forgotten. I imagine her dream scenario is getting a massively scaled back reconciliation bill that includes whatever shitty provisions she's angling for.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

I'm guessing she does not want anything to pass or rather the person with the big check book does not want anything to pass.

She will run next time lose the Democratic primary and then run as an independent, possibly win and then be a heel and a pay to play for both sides.

earlnash, Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

"And it doesn’t matter what other people think" possibly the worst line I've ever heard from an elected official

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

it's hard to see her winning as an independent - Democrats hate her, do Republicans like her? I don't think so

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

her popularity with independents is also in freefall

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

no chance she wins as an indie, republicans will never vote for her over whatever creature the arizona republican party belches up, democrats won't forgive her if she tanks the biden presidency, and true moderates take up what, like 5% of the electorate?

she might be more likely to harm the republican party than the democratic party if she runs, at this rate

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

'You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.'

— President George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three in Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

'I actually did vote for the $87 billion, before I voted against it.'

— Sen. John Kerry, on voting against a military funding bill for U.S. troops in Iraq, March 19, 2004

'Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.'

— President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.'

omigod I love it

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link

i had never heard that one before. found on this listicle: https://www.liveabout.com/dumbest-political-quotes-of-all-time-4083793

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:55 (two years ago) link

TBF, he probably just assumed she meant that she sat on the board of three large corporations.

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:17 (two years ago) link

She's deliberating!

― Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:08 PM (one hour ago) bookmarkflaglink

I honestly misread this as she's debilitating!

Three Rings for the Elven Bishop (Dan Peterson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:21 (two years ago) link

She's defibrillating.

Josh in Chicago, Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:29 (two years ago) link

She’s like the Kyrie Irving of the Senate, there’s no rhyme or reason to anything she’s doing unless she’s intentionally trying to make everyone dislike her

ppl keep making these references on different threads - is she a Real Housewife or s/t?

bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:56 (two years ago) link

Kyrie Irving? An NBA star that is famously anti-vaccine right now and, apparently a flat-earther.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:58 (two years ago) link

at least we know where he stands

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 18:59 (two years ago) link

U.S. Senator Kyrsten Sinema, a key moderate, told fellow Democrats in the House of Representatives this week that she will not vote for a multitrillion-dollar package that is a top priority for President Joe Biden before Congress approves a $1 trillion infrastructure bill, according to a source briefed on the meeting.

I think this is really about not wanting anything stepping on her special day of getting a bill with her name on it passed

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 19:03 (two years ago) link

Kyrie Irving? An NBA star that is famously anti-vaccine right now and, apparently a flat-earther.

― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, October 14, 2021 1:58 PM (six minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

more than that he just has no real coherent positions on anything nor does his internal logic make any sense but he's willing to throw away his career on it

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 19:07 (two years ago) link

a bill saying a senator can't be hung by their own party in the senate house peut etre? etre de poot.

Stevolende, Friday, 15 October 2021 09:19 (two years ago) link

Earlier this year, the feds signed an agreement that let Boeing executives off the hook for the 737 MAX catastrophes, which killed 346 people.

The lead prosecutor, Erin Nealy Cox, then took a job with the firm that leads Boeing's criminal defense.
https://t.co/UPYw5K8sDd pic.twitter.com/oQ1h8wiPV1

— Mike Baker (@ByMikeBaker) October 15, 2021

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:12 (two years ago) link

seems legit

Tracer Hand, Friday, 15 October 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

sometimes opportunities come whee you least expect them!

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

where

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Friday, 15 October 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link

dunno if I'd make too much of Biden's poll numbers yet, shit changes quick and people are pretty frustrated rn with Delta & the two folks literally holding up everything

frogbs, Friday, 15 October 2021 16:41 (two years ago) link

re that WaPo story about Georgia, Warnock is not at much risk of losing his Senate seat in 2022 because Stacey Abrams will be on the same ticket running for governor

Brad C., Friday, 15 October 2021 16:54 (two years ago) link

people are pretty frustrated rn with Delta & the two folks literally holding up everything

Well yes, this is basically the Biden flack's quote about how everything will be fine if he can get done all the things that aren't being done. Does the future hold any promise on this? Voting rights is dead, they caved on police reform, Sinema's holding the line on no tax increases and scuttling the reconciliation bill, they had to kick the can down the road on the debt ceiling despite controlling Congress, anything that does pass isn't going to be felt by Nov. 2022.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 15 October 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

right

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 15 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link


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