On Sinema at the Sinema: October 2021 US Politics thread

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Holding them back, rather.

nickn, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 18:23 (two years ago) link

how is this going to work with airlines? this makes zero sense

akm, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 19:17 (two years ago) link

t/f: progressives control the democratic party

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2021/10/progressives-control-the-democratic-party

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 04:50 (two years ago) link

xp https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2021/10/airlines-reject-texas-ban-on-vaccine-mandates-say-biden-order-takes-precedence/

American Airlines and Southwest Airlines said they will not comply with the Texas governor's ban on vaccine mandates, saying that the US vaccine mandate for federal contractors takes precedence. Both airlines are headquartered in Texas.

"We are reviewing the executive order issued by Gov. Abbott, but we believe the federal vaccine mandate supersedes any conflicting state laws, and this does not change anything for American," an American Airlines spokesperson told The Washington Post and other news organizations. Southwest said that "according to the president's executive order, federal action supersedes any state mandate or law, and we would be expected to comply with the president's order to remain compliant as a federal contractor," according to CNBC.

IBM, which is based in New York but has several large offices in Texas, will also follow the federal order instead of the one in Texas. "IBM is a federal contractor and must comply with federal requirements, which direct employees of federal contractors to be fully vaccinated against COVID-19 by December 8th or obtain a medical or religious accommodation," IBM told Bloomberg. "We will continue to protect the health and safety of IBM employees and clients, and we will continue to follow federal requirements."

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:34 (two years ago) link

lindsey has spotted somewhere between dozens and 40,000 extremely well-dressed Brazilians, and they're headed to Connecticut.


In an interview with Fox News’s Sean Hannity on Tuesday, Graham (R-S.C.) was critical of the administration’s order to halt large-scale immigration arrests at job sites, with plans for a new approach to target employers who pay substandard wages and engage in exploitative labor practices.

“Now, what [Homeland Security Secretary Alejandro] Mayorkas did today, calling off all the raids of worksite, is going to be another incentive for people to come, because the word is out,” Graham said. “You come, you claim asylum, you never leave. The policy choices of Biden are all over the world now.”

The senator, who recently visited the border in Arizona, added: “We had 40,000 Brazilians come through the Yuma Sector alone headed for Connecticut wearing designer clothes and Gucci bags. This is not economic migration anymore.”

“People see an open America,” he continued. “They’re taking advantage of us. And it won’t be long before a terrorist gets in this crowd.”

In an interview with The Washington Post on Wednesday, Graham elaborated on his comments.

“Usually when you go to the border, you see people who are dressed really haggardly and who look like they’ve been through hell,” he said. “This time at Yuma, there were dozens that looked like they were checking into a hotel — and smartly dressed.”

...Kevin Bishop, a spokesman for Graham, had defended the senator’s comments, citing what he saw during his recent trip to the border and news reports about Brazilian immigrants. Bishop also provided photographs of luggage and shoes taken at the border.

“They have had thousands of Brazilians coming through there,” he said. “As Senator Graham noted in Yuma, the luggage was nicer than his own.”

None of the luggage in the photos provided to The Post appeared to be Gucci. The most obvious clothing in the photos was a pair of fairly clean Puma tennis shoes without shoelaces.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/graham-immigration-brazil/2021/10/13/2abe389e-2c49-11ec-985d-3150f7e106b2_story.html

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:48 (two years ago) link

Lindsey sure knows what buttons to push. Brazilians, asylum seeking, never leaving, sneaky terrorists, nice luggage. If hordes of wealthy Austrians were entering the USA carrying nice luggage, I'm sure he'd be just as incensed at their taking advantage of Biden's craven open borders policies, right?

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

Were all these Brazilians with their fancy Gucci luggage stopping at the Waldorf to drop off their bags before heading to the "worksite?"

DJI, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:23 (two years ago) link

It's the 'making a political statement' equivalent of standing in the stoop of an apartment building and mass-pushing all the buzzers at once.

more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:27 (two years ago) link

It's the typical word salad of talking points gobbled up from Tucker or Hannity.

DJI, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 23:47 (two years ago) link

I just noticed a brazilian blowdrying place open up a couple blocks away... what the hell is happening to our country?!

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:02 (two years ago) link

"new approach to target employers who pay substandard wages and engage in exploitative labor practices."

Here being the issue...rich people who pay people under the table don't like getting traffic tickets.

They can always hire MORE tomorrow, but fines cost real money and lawyer hours to get the charges dropped are expensive even if you have them on retainer.

earlnash, Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:51 (two years ago) link

Brazilians bringing their shameful waxing to these shores.

And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 October 2021 01:20 (two years ago) link

No one's made a "Blame It On Rio" reference yet!?!

Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Thursday, 14 October 2021 04:08 (two years ago) link

We had 40,000 Brazilians come through the Yuma Sector alone headed for Connecticut wearing designer clothes and Gucci bags.

obviously these immigrants will never understand our culture

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 13:56 (two years ago) link

good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:03 (two years ago) link

Isn't lindsay one of the many elderly senators people say are showing cognitive decline? Not to excuse him of course he’s still beneath contempt.

And of course the worms! (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:17 (two years ago) link

Between waxing and blowdrying, these Brazilians will soon control all of our follicles

Extinct Namibian shrub genus: Var. (Ye Mad Puffin), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:19 (two years ago) link

he's only in his mid sixties: plenty of time to catch a fatal disease and die.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:20 (two years ago) link

We had 40,000 Brazilians come through the Yuma Sector alone headed for Connecticut wearing designer clothes and Gucci bags.

david roth on twitter said "this claim is so close to being a cuban linx-era raekwon lyric" and now i can only hear it in the chef's voice

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:42 (two years ago) link

is "yuma sector" anything other than a borders patrol / ICE designation? how creepy to be in front of a national audience and use these jargony terms as if everyone knew them (on hannity, they probably did). it's like, we're all looking at the border as a series of military sectors and migrants as enemy invaders, right? how is Sector 7-URF doing? what about 7-URF, LINDSEY

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 14:48 (two years ago) link

the 40,000 brazilians with gucci bags sounds like a lindsey graham version on the 30-50 feral hogs meme to me

certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:10 (two years ago) link

Now Get This!
We feed the lies to the graham
And the graham to the hann
And get the gucci bags for nothing!

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:22 (two years ago) link

Braz-ill-i-Ans

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:27 (two years ago) link

I can’t think of any recent precedent for potential primary challenges to a sitting Senator. Anyone? Atrocious numbers. https://t.co/0IgHi3gDrt pic.twitter.com/DqvRJGKMfV

— Taniel (@Taniel) October 14, 2021

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 15:58 (two years ago) link

wait til she turns on her Sinemagic

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:03 (two years ago) link

i really do wish they'd list "anyone but sinema" as an option on polls like this

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

lolll Karl

Tracer Hand, Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:10 (two years ago) link

i really do wish they'd list "anyone but sinema" as an option on polls like this

― typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, October 14, 2021 12:10 PM (three minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Not exactly that question, but approval/disapproval was 25/70 in the same poll.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:14 (two years ago) link

yeah, but just to make it really explicit for the headlines

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:16 (two years ago) link

right. i think the reason pollsters don't waste a question on that is pretty much every politician loses to "anyone but this guy" because voters can imagine a candidate that doesn't exist.

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

25/70 is *insane* btw

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

T/S: the esteem of your constituents vs. the esteem of those sliding you envelopes filled with money in smokey backrooms

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:19 (two years ago) link

fun story about how she doesn't have any friends any more and seems to be deliberately commiting social suicide

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

"We'll put up the funds for your election campaign.
Oh, uh, waiter? Can you bring the champagne?"

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link

She’s like the Kyrie Irving of the Senate, there’s no rhyme or reason to anything she’s doing unless she’s intentionally trying to make everyone dislike her

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:24 (two years ago) link

“It’s not effective to pressure me on anything,” she said. “Because I am a thoughtful person who takes a lot of time, deliberatively, to make decisions, once I’ve made a decision, I feel very comfortable with it. And it doesn’t matter what other people think.”

Good thing she doesn't represent people whose interests might diverge from her own.

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

Christ, she's such a cartoon villain at this point.

a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Thursday, 14 October 2021 16:37 (two years ago) link

she also hasn't made a decision, or if she has, hasn't told anyone what decision she's made. unless that decision is "willfully obstruct this whole deal because i want to"

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

She's deliberating!

Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

my impression is that she articulated some specific demands to the president but refuses to make those public because they would be extremely unpopular

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:08 (two years ago) link

imagine if she were extremely unpopular

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

if both bills somehow end up getting passed, I suspect a lot of her antics will be quickly forgotten. I imagine her dream scenario is getting a massively scaled back reconciliation bill that includes whatever shitty provisions she's angling for.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

I'm guessing she does not want anything to pass or rather the person with the big check book does not want anything to pass.

She will run next time lose the Democratic primary and then run as an independent, possibly win and then be a heel and a pay to play for both sides.

earlnash, Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:36 (two years ago) link

"And it doesn’t matter what other people think" possibly the worst line I've ever heard from an elected official

frogbs, Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:37 (two years ago) link

it's hard to see her winning as an independent - Democrats hate her, do Republicans like her? I don't think so

Piven After Midnight (The Yellow Kid), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:39 (two years ago) link

her popularity with independents is also in freefall

St. Twel'mo, or the Cuneiform Cyclopedist of Chattanooga (President Keyes), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

no chance she wins as an indie, republicans will never vote for her over whatever creature the arizona republican party belches up, democrats won't forgive her if she tanks the biden presidency, and true moderates take up what, like 5% of the electorate?

she might be more likely to harm the republican party than the democratic party if she runs, at this rate

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:43 (two years ago) link

'You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.'

— President George W. Bush, to a divorced mother of three in Omaha, Nebraska, Feb. 4, 2005

'I actually did vote for the $87 billion, before I voted against it.'

— Sen. John Kerry, on voting against a military funding bill for U.S. troops in Iraq, March 19, 2004

'Brownie, you're doing a heck of a job.'

— President Bush, to FEMA director Michael Brown, while touring hurricane-ravaged Mississippi, Sept. 2, 2005

typo hell #12: a hundreds of millions of people (Karl Malone), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:46 (two years ago) link

You work three jobs? ... Uniquely American, isn't it? I mean, that is fantastic that you're doing that.'

omigod I love it

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 14 October 2021 17:47 (two years ago) link


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