Bad Chappelle Bits

*was not entirely clear

They suspended the employee who tweeted about the special, for trying to crash an executive level meeting. The headline couldn't have been "Netflix employee suspended for trying to attend a director-level meeting", because who would have clicked on it?

most award winning

Hmmmm.

this is a good piece on it

https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/dave-chappelle-transgender

I can't really identify with the social issues surrounding this but I can talk about how weirdly unfunny nearly all of Chappelle's LGBTQ material is; it's pretty much all bad South Park bits. always the worst part of his set outside of all the lengthy retellings of the time a woman or queer person was mean to him. though these are often the same bit

Yes strong exposition of the "one joke" there. This bit they linked is really good:

A very good two minutes from @JamesAcastor. pic.twitter.com/Ca05RsFwOB

— Anand Giridharadas @ The.Ink (@AnandWrites) October 7, 2021

Although it doesn't address the 'oppression Olympics' aspect of Dave's latest show, which from what I saw on Twitter sadly seemed to be getting the most traction.

feel like that Acastor bit might have had a little more impact if it was even remotely funny

i’m not sure that’s his actual twitter account. his last name is spelled acaster. i love that bit fwiw. it’s true that it’s verging on anger/vitriol but it’s warranted frankly. and i love that he calls out gervais by name after pretending he’s not going to.

That whole Acaster stand-up show is remarkable, tbh. His shows on Netflix are very funny, but Cold Lasagne... is an excellent extended piece of work.

Yeah, James Acaster is one of my fav comedians working.

The bit is about catharsis not humour yeah and if that was his entire shtick it'd be tiresome but frankly all comedians do it these days (Chappelle special seems to be nothing but this from the descriptions I've read) so I won't begrudge him it. Plus it's genuinely important to have vocally anti-transphobic ppl in the public eye in the UK, for obvious reasons.

i’m not sure that’s his actual twitter account.

It's not, he's not on any social media.

It's not, he's not on any social media.

An exemplar for us all

lol just watched someone in a comment thread write an impassioned defense of Chappelle that began with "I haven't watched this yet, but..." and then responding an hour later with "oh god, I'm 45 minutes into this and it's awful, nothing I wrote above applies to this" so I guess this isn't landing the way he thought it would

As noted elsewhere, it's telling that literally no one is talking about the jokes. Assuming there are some.

As noted elsewhere, it's telling that literally no one is talking about the jokes. Assuming there are some.

― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:22 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

I still think he's super funny even though I loathe the bigotry, but to each their own obv

what would you say were your favorite jokes from the special

I thought that everything hes done since his reboot bar the standup about george floyd has been on its way to grim rather than funny or clever, and the last one before this wasnt worth the watch

If this one is where people whod stand over that one are stepping off, im happier again with the decision to not bother

Acaster has not made me so much as grin, ever, maybe ive missed all his good stuff

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idk, I liked a lot of it, Clifford, glory holes, the bathroom bill is stupid, "1980s gay face,"

Acaster has not made me so much as grin, ever

perhaps we're witnessing the evolution of observational humor into stand up comics just acting as general observers of society, like bloggers or print media columnists who occasionally venture upon an vaguely amusing witticism or two

I mean, people's whole "I watched all 70 minutes of this and sat stone-faced at the absolute dearth of jokes" thing is really suspect in the era where people listen to like seven Comedy Bang Bang knock-off podcasts a day

And, yes, that's coming from someone absolutely exhausted and disgusted at like three specials full of TERF stuff

"Hey, at least I got a few chuckles out of this klan rally, unlike the podcasts you like"... ok man whatever

yeah man, the metric fuckton of people that watched this and love Chappelle and keep him a millionaire are def in it for the blind hate, not the jokes, you got me

the blind hate is just like a bonus

people listen to like seven Comedy Bang Bang knock-off podcasts a day

― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:22 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink

Where do you even get these strawmen?

“Did you see James Acaster?” “Yeah.” “Was it funny?” “No, but I agreed the fuck out of it.”

That is tbf a good line

Yes he does attempt some actual comedic routines but mostly it felt like really long setups that culminated in a punchline he might as well stolen from 4chan. There were like 4 bits on here where I was going “wait that’s it?”

I mean, people's whole "I watched all 70 minutes of this and sat stone-faced at the absolute dearth of jokes" thing is really suspect

Yeah, based on what I'd read beforehand, I was expecting just one long, bitter rant, or some kind of angry TED Talk, but from the beginning the fact that it's a standup comedy set is pretty clear, from, you know, all the jokes.

xxposts There's a whole word for that!

https://www.vulture.com/2018/01/the-rise-of-clapter-comedy.html

See: Nanette.

Kind of a return to "humorist" Mort Sahl type thing

Late period Carlin

one more time around (might do it)
the day
I unbookmarked
this threaaaaaaad

The Rise of Clapton Comedy

can’t say that knowing whether the transphobic material is couched or is not couched in jokes makes any difference whatsoever, and i personally do not care if this hateful ass material gets represented or overemphasized, fuck dave chapelle

i know that you’re all saying “fuck dave chapelle” but then this convo became about whiney owning people who listen to earwolf podcasts, not the time or the place

https://boxd.it/2cLYHR

In 2015 he was doing the standard Caitlyn jokes, even penning an entire song! In 2021 he is big-upping Orban's Hungary and calling for the violent removal of us from society because we are child-molesting rapists. i woke up today to an email from my dad to his friends demanding that local school boards be taken over everywhere to prevent trans and gender non-conforming people from raping children in school bathrooms, that school boards are the easiest point of entry to wholesale systemic takeover and that if local elections will not work, 2nd amendment solutions to the problem will have to be invoked. at least once a week i get a letter from my proud TERF father who will not help me financially as i drown but who will tell his friends loud enough so i can hear that people like me should be violently executed by vigilante mobs because the courts can't be counted on to do it right. When Dave says that he is a TERF, when he says that he stands with JK Rowling, this is explicitly what he is aligning himself with. He even says each individual word, reads a definition. Dave knows what he is doing. Dave is telling us that he wants a world where he can be and go about his life that we are not and cannot be part of and he is willing to see state power brought to bear to achieve those ends, where he does not have to see trans people or be reminded of our existence, where trans discourse is outlawed or suppressed, where the only trans medical care is conversion therapy. This is the world that Netflix wants and is actively working toward. This is the world that Dave Chappelle has put his heart, his soul, his past decade of cultural production to achieve.

Yeah. Given the timing, I got the feeling that that was as much a response to an incredibly offensive and ill-advised review of the special from another Letterboxd-er as it was a response to the special itself.

you’re gonna have to be more specific not that i want to read it or know anything about it

both of nathaxnne’s reviews of this are essential reading

i admit that i haven’t seen this special and have only read about it but i don’t really care

It was a review by k@liofthedolls, brad. Avoidance is probably the best recourse.

oh i did read that, it was awful

I just want to know where that suit’s from.

In view of all the many trans ilxors who've come out and have found happy encouragement and support here, anyone who explicitly puts himself on "Team TERF" is not just misguided, but an active enemy of those ilxors. You can't be their ally and find the slightest excuse for Chappelle.

Acaster has not made me so much as grin, ever, maybe ive missed all his good stuff

He's a British comedian, if you're expecting good stuff I wouldn't hold your breath.

how many countries do you think have good stand-up comedians?

My Albanian is a bit rusty.

acaster is hilarious, and totally not nanette/bo burnham thinkpiece anti-humour imho

^^^^ agree

Laughed myself silly to Cold Lasagne and his Netflix specials, and his Taskmaster series, and even his notorious Bake-Off episode.