This part was entirely clear:
The tweet thread went viral, quickly spiraling into a conversation about free speech and cancel culture. Netflix then suspended [the tweeter] Field along with two other employees for trying to attend a director-level meeting they weren’t invited to.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Monday, 11 October 2021 20:45 (two years ago) link
*was not entirely clear
They suspended the employee who tweeted about the special, for trying to crash an executive level meeting. The headline couldn't have been "Netflix employee suspended for trying to attend a director-level meeting", because who would have clicked on it?
― beard papa, Monday, 11 October 2021 22:55 (two years ago) link
most award winning
Hmmmm.
― Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 10:02 (two years ago) link
this is a good piece on it
https://www.readthepresentage.com/p/dave-chappelle-transgender
I can't really identify with the social issues surrounding this but I can talk about how weirdly unfunny nearly all of Chappelle's LGBTQ material is; it's pretty much all bad South Park bits. always the worst part of his set outside of all the lengthy retellings of the time a woman or queer person was mean to him. though these are often the same bit
― frogbs, Tuesday, 12 October 2021 22:20 (two years ago) link
Yes strong exposition of the "one joke" there. This bit they linked is really good:
A very good two minutes from @JamesAcastor. pic.twitter.com/Ca05RsFwOB— Anand Giridharadas @ The.Ink (@AnandWrites) October 7, 2021
Although it doesn't address the 'oppression Olympics' aspect of Dave's latest show, which from what I saw on Twitter sadly seemed to be getting the most traction.
― recovering internet addict/shitposter (viborg), Tuesday, 12 October 2021 23:53 (two years ago) link
feel like that Acastor bit might have had a little more impact if it was even remotely funny
― Paul Ponzi, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 00:04 (two years ago) link
i’m not sure that’s his actual twitter account. his last name is spelled acaster. i love that bit fwiw. it’s true that it’s verging on anger/vitriol but it’s warranted frankly. and i love that he calls out gervais by name after pretending he’s not going to.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 07:57 (two years ago) link
That whole Acaster stand-up show is remarkable, tbh. His shows on Netflix are very funny, but Cold Lasagne... is an excellent extended piece of work.
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 08:24 (two years ago) link
Yeah, James Acaster is one of my fav comedians working.
The bit is about catharsis not humour yeah and if that was his entire shtick it'd be tiresome but frankly all comedians do it these days (Chappelle special seems to be nothing but this from the descriptions I've read) so I won't begrudge him it. Plus it's genuinely important to have vocally anti-transphobic ppl in the public eye in the UK, for obvious reasons.
i’m not sure that’s his actual twitter account.
It's not, he's not on any social media.
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 10:05 (two years ago) link
An exemplar for us all
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 11:56 (two years ago) link
lol just watched someone in a comment thread write an impassioned defense of Chappelle that began with "I haven't watched this yet, but..." and then responding an hour later with "oh god, I'm 45 minutes into this and it's awful, nothing I wrote above applies to this" so I guess this isn't landing the way he thought it would
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:19 (two years ago) link
As noted elsewhere, it's telling that literally no one is talking about the jokes. Assuming there are some.
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 19:22 (two years ago) link
As noted elsewhere, it's telling that literally no one is talking about the jokes. Assuming there are some.― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:22 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
― Josh in Chicago, Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:22 PM (forty minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
I still think he's super funny even though I loathe the bigotry, but to each their own obv
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:05 (two years ago) link
what would you say were your favorite jokes from the special
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
I thought that everything hes done since his reboot bar the standup about george floyd has been on its way to grim rather than funny or clever, and the last one before this wasnt worth the watch
If this one is where people whod stand over that one are stepping off, im happier again with the decision to not bother
Acaster has not made me so much as grin, ever, maybe ive missed all his good stuff
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:09 (two years ago) link
xpost
idk, I liked a lot of it, Clifford, glory holes, the bathroom bill is stupid, "1980s gay face,"
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:18 (two years ago) link
Acaster has not made me so much as grin, ever
perhaps we're witnessing the evolution of observational humor into stand up comics just acting as general observers of society, like bloggers or print media columnists who occasionally venture upon an vaguely amusing witticism or two
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:19 (two years ago) link
I mean, people's whole "I watched all 70 minutes of this and sat stone-faced at the absolute dearth of jokes" thing is really suspect in the era where people listen to like seven Comedy Bang Bang knock-off podcasts a day
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:22 (two years ago) link
And, yes, that's coming from someone absolutely exhausted and disgusted at like three specials full of TERF stuff
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:25 (two years ago) link
"Hey, at least I got a few chuckles out of this klan rally, unlike the podcasts you like"... ok man whatever
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 20:54 (two years ago) link
yeah man, the metric fuckton of people that watched this and love Chappelle and keep him a millionaire are def in it for the blind hate, not the jokes, you got me
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:01 (two years ago) link
the blind hate is just like a bonus
― (•̪●) (carne asada), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:03 (two years ago) link
people listen to like seven Comedy Bang Bang knock-off podcasts a day
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, October 13, 2021 3:22 PM (thirty-nine minutes ago) bookmarkflaglink
Where do you even get these strawmen?
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link
“Did you see James Acaster?” “Yeah.” “Was it funny?” “No, but I agreed the fuck out of it.”
― edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:05 (two years ago) link
That is tbf a good line
― fix up luke shawp (darraghmac), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:22 (two years ago) link
Yes he does attempt some actual comedic routines but mostly it felt like really long setups that culminated in a punchline he might as well stolen from 4chan. There were like 4 bits on here where I was going “wait that’s it?”
― frogbs, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
I mean, people's whole "I watched all 70 minutes of this and sat stone-faced at the absolute dearth of jokes" thing is really suspect
Yeah, based on what I'd read beforehand, I was expecting just one long, bitter rant, or some kind of angry TED Talk, but from the beginning the fact that it's a standup comedy set is pretty clear, from, you know, all the jokes.
― Vaguely Threatening CAPTCHAs, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:26 (two years ago) link
xxposts There's a whole word for that!
https://www.vulture.com/2018/01/the-rise-of-clapter-comedy.html
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:27 (two years ago) link
See: Nanette.
― DJI, Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:45 (two years ago) link
Kind of a return to "humorist" Mort Sahl type thing
― Blues Guitar Solo Heatmap (Free Download) (upper mississippi sh@kedown), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:56 (two years ago) link
Late period Carlin
one more time around (might do it)the dayI unbookmarkedthis threaaaaaaad
― Gardyloominati (Neanderthal), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 21:57 (two years ago) link
The Rise of Clapton Comedy
― Buckfast in America (Master of Treacle), Wednesday, 13 October 2021 22:00 (two years ago) link
can’t say that knowing whether the transphobic material is couched or is not couched in jokes makes any difference whatsoever, and i personally do not care if this hateful ass material gets represented or overemphasized, fuck dave chapelle
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:09 (two years ago) link
i know that you’re all saying “fuck dave chapelle” but then this convo became about whiney owning people who listen to earwolf podcasts, not the time or the place
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:10 (two years ago) link
https://boxd.it/2cLYHR
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:11 (two years ago) link
In 2015 he was doing the standard Caitlyn jokes, even penning an entire song! In 2021 he is big-upping Orban's Hungary and calling for the violent removal of us from society because we are child-molesting rapists. i woke up today to an email from my dad to his friends demanding that local school boards be taken over everywhere to prevent trans and gender non-conforming people from raping children in school bathrooms, that school boards are the easiest point of entry to wholesale systemic takeover and that if local elections will not work, 2nd amendment solutions to the problem will have to be invoked. at least once a week i get a letter from my proud TERF father who will not help me financially as i drown but who will tell his friends loud enough so i can hear that people like me should be violently executed by vigilante mobs because the courts can't be counted on to do it right. When Dave says that he is a TERF, when he says that he stands with JK Rowling, this is explicitly what he is aligning himself with. He even says each individual word, reads a definition. Dave knows what he is doing. Dave is telling us that he wants a world where he can be and go about his life that we are not and cannot be part of and he is willing to see state power brought to bear to achieve those ends, where he does not have to see trans people or be reminded of our existence, where trans discourse is outlawed or suppressed, where the only trans medical care is conversion therapy. This is the world that Netflix wants and is actively working toward. This is the world that Dave Chappelle has put his heart, his soul, his past decade of cultural production to achieve.
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:20 (two years ago) link
Yeah. Given the timing, I got the feeling that that was as much a response to an incredibly offensive and ill-advised review of the special from another Letterboxd-er as it was a response to the special itself.
― Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:30 (two years ago) link
you’re gonna have to be more specific not that i want to read it or know anything about it
both of nathaxnne’s reviews of this are essential reading
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:35 (two years ago) link
i admit that i haven’t seen this special and have only read about it but i don’t really care
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:40 (two years ago) link
It was a review by k@liofthedolls, brad. Avoidance is probably the best recourse.
― Donald Fhtagen (Old Lunch), Thursday, 14 October 2021 00:59 (two years ago) link
oh i did read that, it was awful
― STOCK FIST-PUMPER BRAD (BradNelson), Thursday, 14 October 2021 01:01 (two years ago) link
I just want to know where that suit’s from.
― ... (Eazy), Thursday, 14 October 2021 01:31 (two years ago) link
In view of all the many trans ilxors who've come out and have found happy encouragement and support here, anyone who explicitly puts himself on "Team TERF" is not just misguided, but an active enemy of those ilxors. You can't be their ally and find the slightest excuse for Chappelle.
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Thursday, 14 October 2021 01:32 (two years ago) link
He's a British comedian, if you're expecting good stuff I wouldn't hold your breath.
― Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 October 2021 06:47 (two years ago) link
how many countries do you think have good stand-up comedians?
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Thursday, 14 October 2021 06:56 (two years ago) link
My Albanian is a bit rusty.
― Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Thursday, 14 October 2021 07:00 (two years ago) link
acaster is hilarious, and totally not nanette/bo burnham thinkpiece anti-humour imho
― flopson, Thursday, 14 October 2021 07:48 (two years ago) link
^^^^ agree
― thing that i used to think was cool but now i just don't have time for (stevie), Thursday, 14 October 2021 08:27 (two years ago) link