"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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“My favourite Bond? I’d have to say the bond between family and nation, forged in the smithy of hard work and fair play."

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 30, 2021

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 1 October 2021 10:07 (four years ago)

"Basildon Bond BOOM BOOM!!!"

Mark G, Friday, 1 October 2021 10:15 (four years ago)

paging matt DC
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165101861521

Qamon (||||||||), Friday, 1 October 2021 10:55 (four years ago)

"successful"

The @Conservatives lead increases by 1 point after the Labour Party Conference despite a successful speech by Keir Starmer.

The latest numbers for the @OpiniumResearch/@ObserverUK poll.

Con 39% (-1)
Lab 35% (-2)
Lib Dem 8% (+1)
Green 6% (NC) pic.twitter.com/3qRkP3CSvD

— Opinium (@OpiniumResearch) October 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:18 (four years ago)

they would have been at least +3 if they had locked Kieth in a chained box in the basement for the entire conference

calzino, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:25 (four years ago)

what measure are they using for a successful speech?

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:46 (four years ago)

sorry comrade I missed your air quotes

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:47 (four years ago)

he reckons it wasn't a long speech but went on longer because of all the standing ovations(!!!), but the word counters say it was much longer than previous ones.

calzino, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:53 (four years ago)

Didn’t these same people criticise Jeremy Corbyn as giving ‘Castroesque’ conference speeches even though these were much shorter?

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:07 (four years ago)

Remember when you suggested that making sex workers into facilitators of crime and therefore increasing police interaction would keep us safer? https://t.co/b0tYnUXgr4

— Em (@grumpyhooker) October 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:08 (four years ago)

xp

yes!

calzino, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:11 (four years ago)

Alexei Sayle is obviously 100 per cent correct that the right/technocrat end of the Labour Party are some of the world’s most horrible people - at least Tories kind of revel in their assholism instead of gaslighting the Left about who they are.

My pet theory of Red Wall is that all those places had sharp-suit Labour councils who used consultancy language to strip away essential assistance and services from people who could no longer abide it, because this crap started before austerity. Also Brexit. I don’t think the Left, who all opposed austerity/PFI/empty suits is to blame for any of it.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:21 (four years ago)

I think that's exactly right. And stir in some complacent quasi-corrupt machine politics that comes from semi-permanent control of civil apparatus.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:33 (four years ago)

it's my understanding as well, I've definitely picked up over the years, anecdotally at least, with nothing concrete to back this up really, but this is what people think, that local Labour councils are often racked with corruption and incompetence. there's also things like people not understanding which council are responsible for things though, where I live the borough council is Labour but the county is Conservative, and people are always bashing the Labour council for not fixing the potholes in the roads (which are really bad tbf), but that's the County Council's responsibility.

but when people think their local council is failing them, it's not surprising they transfer that to the party as a whole, and think maybe the Tories will help them. I'm not a fan of Lisa Nandy but I think she was onto something at one point.

bovarism, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:34 (four years ago)

https://amp.ft.com/content/1e93fab0-916e-4697-be8a-af02bde94411?

CON (+5)
LAB (-3)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:36 (four years ago)

Basically if the problem assumed human form it would be David Evans.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:13 (four years ago)

Labour has not enjoyed a poll bounce in the immediate aftermath of its party conference despite the government being blamed by most of its own voters over the fuel shortage crisis.

The party’s leader signalled that it is again serious about winning power and taking on the Tories

getting conflicting reports on the Labour conference on the Graun site. Today's Observer editorial is so blinkered and full of shit that you'd be fair to suspect it was written by Philip Collins. It even suggests Kieth is more interested in getting into power than in party factionalism, lol show me the evidence.

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 08:37 (four years ago)

.. He thinks they are the same thing?

Mark G, Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:00 (four years ago)

i don't think that's true personally

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:36 (four years ago)

his short term ambition to shrink the party to a billionaire donor backed model with the party's right in control of his successor is going to plan. But he's also set up his own demise by prioritising factionalism over popular policies.

Liz Truss tells today's Sunday Times: "I am neither surprised, nor not surprised, by anything that happens."

as an amateur fool I've always been jealous of Liz!

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:45 (four years ago)

I can't even remember myself, but some say the Labour '96 conference projected more of a coherent alternative to Toryism, despite how wretched and evil the project became.

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:55 (four years ago)

xpost to plax(ico) nor do I tbc

Mark G, Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:03 (four years ago)

Haha ok good!

plax (ico), Monday, 4 October 2021 07:39 (four years ago)

Looks like dril's "a cop in every household by 2025" prediction is looking shaky this morning.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 09:08 (four years ago)

Just so so painful to watch

"You're an Eton millionaire who doesn't care about disabled people."

Jacob Rees-Mogg is confronted by Dominic Hutchins who says that he had to prove he had cerebral palsy to claim benefits. pic.twitter.com/JtNq1BDbqO

— PoliticsJOE (@PoliticsJOE_UK) October 4, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:07 (four years ago)

Good piece on care workers.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/society-and-culture/worked-to-the-edge-inside-the-care-industry-health-report

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:33 (four years ago)

Best Enid Blyton book yet https://t.co/deFHvi3VdE

— Jim Caris (@jimcaris) October 4, 2021

lool!

calzino, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:31 (four years ago)

Sir Iain was overheard saying he was ready to confront “four incoherent morons” with a traffic cone.

calzino, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:36 (four years ago)

Maybe.

Is this the most plausible route back to power for Labour? (i) sectoral wage rises —> (ii) rising inflation (costs passed on to consumers) —> (iii) interest rate rises —> (iv) falling house prices (landlordism becomes unprofitable) —> (v) breakup of Tory electoral coalition?

— Chris Brooke (@chrisbrooke) October 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 06:55 (four years ago)

Lol that the hopes of the Labour fall on landlordism being unprofitable

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 07:05 (four years ago)

I'm sure Starmer won't allow that to happen.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Tuesday, 5 October 2021 07:11 (four years ago)

Yeah responses have written off Starmer. People are looking at 2025 onwards.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 08:09 (four years ago)

British politics is just a perpetual cycle of civil society and the media absolutely slating a party for coming up with a solution to a problem they hadn’t even considered, followed by the government, institutions or companies with power realising they need to solve that problem https://t.co/1u8pTLZBzZ

— Matt Zarb-Cousin (@mattzarb) September 8, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 08:10 (four years ago)

There’s a certain schadenfreude in watching this insulting, hydraulic view of migration - a tap you turn on and off - disintegrate in real time https://t.co/KvwZ6J3Muc

— Will Davies (@davies_will) October 4, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 08:39 (four years ago)

the lesson that should be learned from yesterday: use traffic cones as weapons of political violence and you'll end up getting compared to Mair and likely end up doing hard time for Stewdent Grant antics.

the next election will be a lower turnout than 2001 and a reduced majority Tory gov. Can't see any other outcome no matter what happens re: inflation, housing market, food shortages etc

calzino, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 11:21 (four years ago)

"Look at me incoherent morons, I'm a giant witch"

nashwan, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 11:22 (four years ago)

Ok

It couldn’t be more symbolic that Sir John Chilcot died on the day that the big BBC documentary on Tony Blair was airedhttps://t.co/hTlTUQOkG0

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) October 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 11:24 (four years ago)

the same when Blair dies on the the day a Chilcot Inquiry documentary is aired.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 11:54 (four years ago)

Adonis will have his worn out sock at the ready for the Blair hagiography documentary.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 12:00 (four years ago)

i mean i think adonis is kind of correct there, tho i perhaps read the symbolism differently and more darkly

mark s, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 13:05 (four years ago)

I don't think he probably intended it as a "lol u are dead and was wrong, fool" post. But that's the only way I can interpret it coming from him. He makes it sound like "on the say big BBC doc on Blair is aired" = the day Blair regime was exonerated of all charges of colluding in war crimes and illegal war.

calzino, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 13:36 (four years ago)

Yeah I think I read it more darkly given his past tweeting.

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 14:18 (four years ago)

Tomorrow 4.4 million households, with 5.1m adults and 3.5m children, will see their incomes fall by £1,000 overnight. For 1 million households that will mean an immediate loss of over 10% of their income as we take the basic rate of benefits to its lowest level since 1990

— Torsten Bell (@TorstenBell) October 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 21:50 (four years ago)

the real long 90's is here, the nasty one that doesn't involve endless chuntering about britpop!

calzino, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 21:59 (four years ago)

Min wage rising today, making a nonsense of Labour's 10 quid min wage promise. Starmer has fucked it again.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 09:33 (four years ago)

the party of +58p ph

calzino, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 10:48 (four years ago)

I bet the Tories get a conference boost in the polling as well, despite everything.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 10:54 (four years ago)

What a wanker.

Great dynamism in Boris speech - whatever you think of his politics, this is the speech of the leader who currently dominates the scene

— Andrew Adonis (@Andrew_Adonis) October 6, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 11:05 (four years ago)

His previous books include 5 Days in May, acclaimed as ‘a West Wing-style thriller’ about the formation of the Cameron–Clegg coalition

it's just another season of the West Wing to Baron Adonis

calzino, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 11:19 (four years ago)

he started his political career as an SDP councillor, that says it all.

calzino, Wednesday, 6 October 2021 11:23 (four years ago)


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