"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

Message Bookmarked
Bookmark Removed
Not all messages are displayed: show all messages (7235 of them)

Brutal assessment.

So much more he could've said. The row over pay, the disgusting inversion of the BLM slogan, promising more cops to protect women the moment a cop is sentenced for the murder of one. The disaffiliation of a founding union from Labour (did it happen under Kinnock?)

https://amp.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/29/keir-starmer-support-politician-national-mood?

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 September 2021 07:21 (four years ago)

I mean.

This is fucking grim pic.twitter.com/NWL0UjJyVn

— Politics of NV (@politicsofnv) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 September 2021 07:45 (four years ago)

Sorry sym lol just didn't see that tweet load in time..

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 September 2021 07:46 (four years ago)

just heard the ludicrous ham trying to blame "overpromising" in the manifesto and anti-Semitism, that Jermy Crobwyn etc.. as the factors behind 2019's defeat rather than properly cop for his cack-handed brexit policy. Say what you like about Jermy but he was good at talking to real people on the level and LISTENING to them.

calzino, Thursday, 30 September 2021 08:00 (four years ago)

6 and 9 points behind in two of the latest polls during a national fuel crisis with people feighting to the death on petrol station forecourts

calzino, Thursday, 30 September 2021 08:18 (four years ago)

But what you've got to understand is that when surveyed lots of these people hadn't yet heard Keir talk about how machine learning can cater for individual work styles https://t.co/Qs5iVyBjZd

— Alex Niven (@Alex_Niven) September 30, 2021

calzino, Thursday, 30 September 2021 08:22 (four years ago)

This headline from The Sun is something else.

the fact that the s*n of all places is publishing this is not nothing -- now is the time to make the abolitionist argument, not just by yelling 'abolish the police' which still sounds like nonsense to most people, but by meticulously building our case against policing https://t.co/bBLZ4TP42N

— Sita Balani (@sitainshort) September 30, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 September 2021 12:54 (four years ago)

Very heavy caveat around The Sun’s suggestion that the police need reasonable grounds to stop and search you.

https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2020/jul/27/met-police-increased-use-of-section-60-stop-and-search-during-lockdown

It’s good that they’re highlighting this, though. The majority of stop and searches are not done with ‘reasonable suspicion’, they’re recorded as voluntary iirc, as people don’t know they have the right to refuse.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Thursday, 30 September 2021 13:46 (four years ago)

And as so many videos/testimonies show, the police are expert at escalating any situation to 'reasonable suspicion' through any act of non-compliance

plax (ico), Thursday, 30 September 2021 15:00 (four years ago)

65% of the public supports raising the minimum wage to £15/hr, according to a new poll by
@Survation
and
@Autonomy_UK

bad news for Starmer, most people don't believe a reasonable minimum wage is an "insensible policy"

calzino, Thursday, 30 September 2021 15:51 (four years ago)

Not the people who matter

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Thursday, 30 September 2021 15:58 (four years ago)

they could learn some useful lessons from 2017 i. if they were remotely interested in improving people's lives ii. and they hadn't completely expunged 2017 from their memories.

calzino, Thursday, 30 September 2021 16:16 (four years ago)

Starmer is too right-wing even for Harriet Harman.

Keir Starmer defended Cressida Dick on @GMB this morning https://t.co/jFgmJVuL0R

— John Rentoul (@JohnRentoul) September 30, 2021

xyzzzz__, Thursday, 30 September 2021 18:05 (four years ago)

I think he's still committed to what he saw as his DPP remit to protect CD from public scrutiny/accountability (again) at any cost. What a fucking fraudulent cop loving coward.

calzino, Friday, 1 October 2021 07:51 (four years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/sep/30/breaking-promises-keir-starmer-power-new-labour-political-strategists

I don’t know how much of a ‘soft left’ there is in the PLP these days but Jones is probably correct that their heads are on the block next.

Starmer’s crew are briefing the press that they want Miliband gone ASAP.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 1 October 2021 09:23 (four years ago)

He is progressive on the issues that matter to all of us though:

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/politics/2021/09/30/next-james-bond-should-woman-says-sir-keir-starmer/

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Friday, 1 October 2021 09:25 (four years ago)

Ed seems quite popular, something Starmer never will be. I mean could you imagine Kieth doing a radio 2 slot and it going down very well with the public.

calzino, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:29 (four years ago)

he's so cringeworthy and condescending. It reminds me of him at that hustings when he clapped with a patronising "well done" because RLB answered a piss easy pub quiz football question correctly.

calzino, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:35 (four years ago)

I heard the thing about a female bond but thought he'd demanded a female BOD

https://www.doyouremember.co.uk/uploads/raw-1347357284.jpg

conrad, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:37 (four years ago)

LOL

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Friday, 1 October 2021 09:39 (four years ago)

“My favourite Bond? I’d have to say the bond between family and nation, forged in the smithy of hard work and fair play."

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 30, 2021

Piedie Gimbel, Friday, 1 October 2021 10:07 (four years ago)

"Basildon Bond BOOM BOOM!!!"

Mark G, Friday, 1 October 2021 10:15 (four years ago)

paging matt DC
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/165101861521

Qamon (||||||||), Friday, 1 October 2021 10:55 (four years ago)

"successful"

The @Conservatives lead increases by 1 point after the Labour Party Conference despite a successful speech by Keir Starmer.

The latest numbers for the @OpiniumResearch/@ObserverUK poll.

Con 39% (-1)
Lab 35% (-2)
Lib Dem 8% (+1)
Green 6% (NC) pic.twitter.com/3qRkP3CSvD

— Opinium (@OpiniumResearch) October 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:18 (four years ago)

they would have been at least +3 if they had locked Kieth in a chained box in the basement for the entire conference

calzino, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:25 (four years ago)

what measure are they using for a successful speech?

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:46 (four years ago)

sorry comrade I missed your air quotes

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:47 (four years ago)

he reckons it wasn't a long speech but went on longer because of all the standing ovations(!!!), but the word counters say it was much longer than previous ones.

calzino, Saturday, 2 October 2021 20:53 (four years ago)

Didn’t these same people criticise Jeremy Corbyn as giving ‘Castroesque’ conference speeches even though these were much shorter?

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:07 (four years ago)

Remember when you suggested that making sex workers into facilitators of crime and therefore increasing police interaction would keep us safer? https://t.co/b0tYnUXgr4

— Em (@grumpyhooker) October 2, 2021

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:08 (four years ago)

xp

yes!

calzino, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:11 (four years ago)

Alexei Sayle is obviously 100 per cent correct that the right/technocrat end of the Labour Party are some of the world’s most horrible people - at least Tories kind of revel in their assholism instead of gaslighting the Left about who they are.

My pet theory of Red Wall is that all those places had sharp-suit Labour councils who used consultancy language to strip away essential assistance and services from people who could no longer abide it, because this crap started before austerity. Also Brexit. I don’t think the Left, who all opposed austerity/PFI/empty suits is to blame for any of it.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:21 (four years ago)

I think that's exactly right. And stir in some complacent quasi-corrupt machine politics that comes from semi-permanent control of civil apparatus.

Tracer Hand, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:33 (four years ago)

it's my understanding as well, I've definitely picked up over the years, anecdotally at least, with nothing concrete to back this up really, but this is what people think, that local Labour councils are often racked with corruption and incompetence. there's also things like people not understanding which council are responsible for things though, where I live the borough council is Labour but the county is Conservative, and people are always bashing the Labour council for not fixing the potholes in the roads (which are really bad tbf), but that's the County Council's responsibility.

but when people think their local council is failing them, it's not surprising they transfer that to the party as a whole, and think maybe the Tories will help them. I'm not a fan of Lisa Nandy but I think she was onto something at one point.

bovarism, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:34 (four years ago)

https://amp.ft.com/content/1e93fab0-916e-4697-be8a-af02bde94411?

CON (+5)
LAB (-3)

xyzzzz__, Saturday, 2 October 2021 21:36 (four years ago)

Basically if the problem assumed human form it would be David Evans.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Saturday, 2 October 2021 22:13 (four years ago)

Labour has not enjoyed a poll bounce in the immediate aftermath of its party conference despite the government being blamed by most of its own voters over the fuel shortage crisis.

The party’s leader signalled that it is again serious about winning power and taking on the Tories

getting conflicting reports on the Labour conference on the Graun site. Today's Observer editorial is so blinkered and full of shit that you'd be fair to suspect it was written by Philip Collins. It even suggests Kieth is more interested in getting into power than in party factionalism, lol show me the evidence.

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 08:37 (four years ago)

.. He thinks they are the same thing?

Mark G, Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:00 (four years ago)

i don't think that's true personally

plax (ico), Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:36 (four years ago)

his short term ambition to shrink the party to a billionaire donor backed model with the party's right in control of his successor is going to plan. But he's also set up his own demise by prioritising factionalism over popular policies.

Liz Truss tells today's Sunday Times: "I am neither surprised, nor not surprised, by anything that happens."

as an amateur fool I've always been jealous of Liz!

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:45 (four years ago)

I can't even remember myself, but some say the Labour '96 conference projected more of a coherent alternative to Toryism, despite how wretched and evil the project became.

calzino, Sunday, 3 October 2021 09:55 (four years ago)

xpost to plax(ico) nor do I tbc

Mark G, Sunday, 3 October 2021 21:03 (four years ago)

Haha ok good!

plax (ico), Monday, 4 October 2021 07:39 (four years ago)

Looks like dril's "a cop in every household by 2025" prediction is looking shaky this morning.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 09:08 (four years ago)

Just so so painful to watch

"You're an Eton millionaire who doesn't care about disabled people."

Jacob Rees-Mogg is confronted by Dominic Hutchins who says that he had to prove he had cerebral palsy to claim benefits. pic.twitter.com/JtNq1BDbqO

— PoliticsJOE (@PoliticsJOE_UK) October 4, 2021

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 16:07 (four years ago)

Good piece on care workers.

https://www.prospectmagazine.co.uk/society-and-culture/worked-to-the-edge-inside-the-care-industry-health-report

xyzzzz__, Monday, 4 October 2021 17:33 (four years ago)

Best Enid Blyton book yet https://t.co/deFHvi3VdE

— Jim Caris (@jimcaris) October 4, 2021

lool!

calzino, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:31 (four years ago)

Sir Iain was overheard saying he was ready to confront “four incoherent morons” with a traffic cone.

calzino, Monday, 4 October 2021 18:36 (four years ago)

Maybe.

Is this the most plausible route back to power for Labour? (i) sectoral wage rises —> (ii) rising inflation (costs passed on to consumers) —> (iii) interest rate rises —> (iv) falling house prices (landlordism becomes unprofitable) —> (v) breakup of Tory electoral coalition?

— Chris Brooke (@chrisbrooke) October 5, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 06:55 (four years ago)

Lol that the hopes of the Labour fall on landlordism being unprofitable

a hoy hoy, Tuesday, 5 October 2021 07:05 (four years ago)


This thread has been locked by an administrator

You must be logged in to post. Please either login here, or if you are not registered, you may register here.