"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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when you are a landlord like LRM you are always going to be put the protection of property above civil rights

calzino, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 08:55 (four years ago)

Conrad that from PM is hilarious!

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 09:03 (four years ago)

if you're anything like me, every fucker hates you

conrad, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 09:21 (four years ago)

Duntsy will you ever win

ah, but who among us could have seen this coming? pic.twitter.com/8pzIWUKBQ9

— Adam Smith (@adamndsmith) September 28, 2021

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 09:24 (four years ago)

Paul Mason
@paulmasonnews
8/ The deal I thought we had with Starmer is broken. He is retreating from key pledges - nationalising energy, redistributive income taxes - and facilitating attacks on democracy. There are now no left figures in the Shadow Cabinet... worse...

newsflash: Starmer breaks deal that he had with Paul Mason (and associates)

calzino, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 09:26 (four years ago)

Nick Robinson earlier:

"Isn’t the true story of this conference, Diane Abbott, your faction lost two general elections, you then lost the leadership of the Labour Party. Keir Starmer has decided to roll that back — successfully — and, as they once said in Dad’s Army, “You don’t like it up you?”

nashwan, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 12:03 (four years ago)

Leaving aside how that might be variously offensive, it's inane, as it means something like:

"Faction 1 doesn't like being attacked by Faction 2".

No. It probably doesn't.

But this is to underestimate the direness of NR and everything else that is submerged in what he is saying.

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 12:55 (four years ago)

Cop union.

GMB slams Labour Party delegates over AUKUS opposition @GMB_union #Lab21 https://t.co/qGGAcjp81l pic.twitter.com/4FFfWKEPhU

— UnionNewsUK (@Union_NewsUK) September 28, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 15:20 (four years ago)

This guy is such a low-level cunt

Just under 0.5% of the overall #Lab21 conference vote. 16,000 affiliated TU members out of just over 1.8m affiliated to the Party. Just lost its NEC seat yesterday too

— Charlie Mansell (@charliemansell) September 28, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:16 (four years ago)

i thought number of members didn't mean fuck all to the likes of him?

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:39 (four years ago)

Kieth :"I never made a commitment to nationalisation. I made a commitment to common ownership which is worlds apart from nationalisation"

yeah but he put his hand up with RLB when asked which of the candidates would nationalise water and electricity, never mind the weasel worded "common ownership".

calzino, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:44 (four years ago)

🚓 Proud to support the launch of Labour Friends of the Police at #Lab21 today.#newporteast pic.twitter.com/knvIUmteGS

— Jessica Morden MP 💙 (@jessicamordenmp) September 27, 2021

acrid taste of lols in my mouth

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:45 (four years ago)

Nick Robinson earlier:

"Isn’t the true story of this conference, Diane Abbott, your faction lost two general elections, you then lost the leadership of the Labour Party. Keir Starmer has decided to roll that back — successfully — and, as they once said in Dad’s Army, “You don’t like it up you?”

She should've just answered "Dad's Army is shite, mate".

Daniel_Rf, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:52 (four years ago)

i'm sure Nick Robinson had no notion of the racist context of that quote

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 16:58 (four years ago)

Indeed. "You stupid boy" would have done the trick.

Are You Still in Love With Me, Klas-Göran? (Tom D.), Tuesday, 28 September 2021 17:38 (four years ago)

NHS is buckling with a wait list of about 5m. There is only so much we can do with donations, community care and mutual aid to address food shortages etc. We can't fucking offer cancer treatment or fund everyone's housings. Sorry this has got so bleak but these are bleak times.

— Moya Lothian-Mclean (@mlothianmclean) September 28, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:26 (four years ago)

Really vile

genuinely find the use of this phrase, which is a clear appeal to incredibly paranoid right-wing ppl, really disturbing. like, beyond regular levels of right-wing labour crap. it’s fairly close to incitement https://t.co/6PijC8pi73

— josie sparrow (@ofthesparrows) September 28, 2021

xyzzzz__, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 20:32 (four years ago)

Come on, Aaron, tell us what you really think.

Getting Paul Mason on to discuss Labour is like asking Harold Shipman to sermonise about self care. He’s talked nothing but utter gibberish for 18 months #newsnight https://t.co/r7OtsNVuKL

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) September 28, 2021

the pinefox, Tuesday, 28 September 2021 23:15 (four years ago)

Starmer's reputation has taken a pounding among Britons this year (net scores shown)

Competence: -6 (down from +21 in Jan)
Likeable: -14 (down from +8)
Trustworthy: -14 (down from 0)
Decisive: -27 (down from +3)
Strong: -31 (down from +4)https://t.co/JWZAB9ellO pic.twitter.com/wfvHBhQVEG

— YouGov (@YouGov) September 29, 2021

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 09:33 (four years ago)

no conference boost in the polling because the more time in the spotlight he get's the more it draws attention to what a despicable, unlikable, untrustworthy ... etc

calzino, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 09:48 (four years ago)

oh that polling cuts off in July? Maybe his barnstorming conference speech will turn this slump around

calzino, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 09:50 (four years ago)

"Go back to your constituencies and prepare for oblivion!" *conference rises as one*

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:22 (four years ago)

We're ready.

Momentum has told supporters at Labour conference that any responses with chants during Starmer’s speech should be focus on £15 min wage and ten pledges, and “absolutely not on the previous leadership”.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:29 (four years ago)

Fucking Momentum lol

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:31 (four years ago)

Lammy being an idiot

We will not be making proposals that cannot be costed, the public need to know where the money is coming from.

Clearly it was the case at the last general election, we were coming up with policies like free broadband, policies on pensions for women, a four-day week, and the public were saying ‘how much is this going to cost’?

It was coming at the last minute, they felt confused and they didn’t feel able to trust us because of some of the issues that were dominating the party.

Keir is not going to make that mistake, things have to be costed.

nashwan, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:35 (four years ago)

Momentum has told supporters at Labour conference that during Starmer's speech they should hum quietly, consistently increasing in volume, pitch and intensity until he finishes and “absolutely not shout 'WET WIPE!' whenever he pauses for breath”.

edited to reflect developments which occurred (Camaraderie at Arms Length), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:40 (four years ago)

I'm not going to make the mistake of defending Lammy again, sorry I ever did.

glumdalclitch, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:54 (four years ago)

it was all fucking costed Lammy

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:57 (four years ago)

people will just lie about anything won’t they?

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 10:58 (four years ago)

Costing everything is going to kill us all.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:04 (four years ago)

"they didn’t feel able to trust us because of some of the issues that were dominating the party"

= because evil people were constantly lying about the party while people like DL weren't contradicting them.

the pinefox, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:26 (four years ago)

Kberg only tweeting about the heckles and only that they are being thwarted. That's the only point of interest.

nashwan, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:28 (four years ago)

I stuck Keith’s speech on and made it as far as: when I was a fed, a woman got murdered and I shouted at someone that if I didn’t have time for to chat to their parents, what kind of cunt am I? Any way something came up and I had to rearrange (radio off)

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:31 (four years ago)

Oh sorry there was a big round of applause he had to rearrange

a hoy hoy, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 11:33 (four years ago)

Just catching up on this.

Former police officer Wayne Couzens in court for sentencing. Court hears he had police handcuffs, arrested her & used his knowledge of police Covid patrols to detain her.

— lucy manning (@lucymanning) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 12:28 (four years ago)

Refers to the young women he recently met in Stoke who told him they dare not go to their high street alone: “they see more violence and fewer police… the Tories are letting you down. And I can promise you that will never happen under my leadership”

on the very day that horrific details from the Sarah Everard trial are leading, not that there is a good time for his "more cops" attempts to appeal to Tory voters.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 12:29 (four years ago)

lol what pic.twitter.com/Ke6IV4bZHL

— Agree to disagree 🍊 🍊 🍊 (@StefGotBooted) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 12:53 (four years ago)

lol

Starmer getting conf to clap the line ‘we are patriots’ by linking it to supporting England players taking the knee. Clever again. The Times’s loss of Phil Collins is speechwriting’s gain. (Now they’re clapping NATO) #lab21

— gabyhinsliff (@gabyhinsliff) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:06 (four years ago)

well take a look at him now

Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:07 (four years ago)

can't believe this is real https://t.co/mnYXigQp39

— UEFA SNIPER (@dreamboatslim) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:13 (four years ago)

The trusty “Webster’s dictionary” gambit beloved of high school word-padders everywhere

Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:24 (four years ago)

I just want a nationality that isn't Kieth's

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:27 (four years ago)

It really is Iain Duncan Smith all over again.

Starmer: "Let the children boogie, let all the children boogie." (Tom D.), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:33 (four years ago)

Starmer says ‘family and work’ are 'the two sources of what I believe to be right and good'

some have pointed out it's an old Vichy slogan. The Vichy used to issue special awards to *decent* married French woman who birthed 10+ bairns. In the world he paints single people, childless people, the disabled, carers etc.. are just not pulling their weight and have no respectable place in society.

calzino, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 13:59 (four years ago)

Everything Starmer does is with the impeded confidence of a man who knows in three years about four-fifths of the UK press will be calling him a paedophile enabler. There's a certain dogged glory to the fact he can even get through speeches as his will to live visibly drains.

— Europe's Leading Soccer Futurologist (@TreborRhurbarb) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 14:01 (four years ago)

people will just lie about anything won’t they?


I saw that McDonnell called Lammy out on this bullshit but it won’t matter, clearly this is the line they want to go with. It’s the same pusillanimous instinct that has them “admitting” that they caused the global financial crash by maxing out a credit card: winning voters’ trust by saying “voters don’t trust us and they are right not to trust us”. There’s no magic money tree. Inspiring stuff

siffleur’s mom (wins), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 14:13 (four years ago)

Thing is costing everything was playing their fucking game in the first place. Look at the US rn - it's just an excuse not to do anything.

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 14:22 (four years ago)

He's going Full Heaney. You never go Full Heaney. pic.twitter.com/xwnEK7fYLI

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 29, 2021

xyzzzz__, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 14:37 (four years ago)

i'm just spitballing, god forgive me, but i feel confident that the enormous majority of people who get exercised about whether Labour's policies are costed are people who will never vote Labour anyway

look on my guacs, ye mighty, and dis pear (Noodle Vague), Wednesday, 29 September 2021 14:52 (four years ago)

Has any Starmer spokesperson even been arsed to pump out some "this is what non-nationalisation common ownership means". It's apparently "a world apart", but this other world is a complete mystery https://t.co/TXNJPw6al1

— Solomon Hughes (@SolHughesWriter) September 29, 2021

no explanation or pressing to explain the distinction between Common Ownership and Nationalisation he meant - just using words like they don't mean a thing

calzino, Wednesday, 29 September 2021 14:55 (four years ago)


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