"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

Yah true, just like to keep my little vindictive ledger of fair weather socialists accurate for when the revolution comes

I might be remembering this wrongly, but I think and am almost sure there was a a point somewhere in the 2015/16 UK political commentariat landscape when Mason was almost a lone pro-Corbyn voice and OJ was *reluctantly* agreeing with the Labour Right that Corbyn should stand down!

― calzino, Tuesday, September 28, 2021

Calzino correct here. One of the reasons I liked Mason a lot was the way he stood up for these values, at that time. And he has other qualities too, as a thinker with lots of interests. It's also true that OJ gave up on JC in 2016.

I don't even find it that odd that PM backed KS in 1.2020. What I find a bit more odd is that he's never said that this was simply a mistake. He's trashed his own reputation unnecessarily.

But specifically, this latest nonsense about his being a devout Catholic and demanding what CLP someone is in? FFS Paul!

I think paul mason does now say he thought keir starmer was or would be different - not sure he'll say he was wrong though

still you have to feel for the guy:

11/ Those who do move between the world of the three course dinners at the Grand and the world of lentil curry at #TWT21 are greeted with hostility in both locations. I mean really bitter, open, personal animosity in both locations...

— Paul Mason (@paulmasonnews) September 28, 2021

YEAH mobs...

Mobs that burn vans, smash shops fronts are no better than police that bash reporters or suppress evidence. We need accountability & ability to critique police, but we all need conflict res, peacekeeping/making in our communities & that’s what gov should be allowing police to do.

— Lloyd Russell-Moyle MP🌹🏳️‍🌈 (@lloyd_rm) March 28, 2021

says the guy who was running amok in parliament with the mace!

Thickoes with no ideological critique of policing and law shocker

Tough on Corbyn, tough on the causes of Corbyn.

when you are a landlord like LRM you are always going to be put the protection of property above civil rights

Conrad that from PM is hilarious!

if you're anything like me, every fucker hates you

Duntsy will you ever win

ah, but who among us could have seen this coming? pic.twitter.com/8pzIWUKBQ9

— Adam Smith (@adamndsmith) September 28, 2021

Paul Mason
@paulmasonnews
8/ The deal I thought we had with Starmer is broken. He is retreating from key pledges - nationalising energy, redistributive income taxes - and facilitating attacks on democracy. There are now no left figures in the Shadow Cabinet... worse...

newsflash: Starmer breaks deal that he had with Paul Mason (and associates)

Nick Robinson earlier:

"Isn’t the true story of this conference, Diane Abbott, your faction lost two general elections, you then lost the leadership of the Labour Party. Keir Starmer has decided to roll that back — successfully — and, as they once said in Dad’s Army, “You don’t like it up you?”

Leaving aside how that might be variously offensive, it's inane, as it means something like:

"Faction 1 doesn't like being attacked by Faction 2".

No. It probably doesn't.

But this is to underestimate the direness of NR and everything else that is submerged in what he is saying.

Cop union.

GMB slams Labour Party delegates over AUKUS opposition @GMB_union #Lab21 https://t.co/qGGAcjp81l pic.twitter.com/4FFfWKEPhU

— UnionNewsUK (@Union_NewsUK) September 28, 2021

This guy is such a low-level cunt

Just under 0.5% of the overall #Lab21 conference vote. 16,000 affiliated TU members out of just over 1.8m affiliated to the Party. Just lost its NEC seat yesterday too

— Charlie Mansell (@charliemansell) September 28, 2021

i thought number of members didn't mean fuck all to the likes of him?

Kieth :"I never made a commitment to nationalisation. I made a commitment to common ownership which is worlds apart from nationalisation"

yeah but he put his hand up with RLB when asked which of the candidates would nationalise water and electricity, never mind the weasel worded "common ownership".

🚓 Proud to support the launch of Labour Friends of the Police at #Lab21 today.#newporteast pic.twitter.com/knvIUmteGS

— Jessica Morden MP 💙 (@jessicamordenmp) September 27, 2021

acrid taste of lols in my mouth

Nick Robinson earlier:

"Isn’t the true story of this conference, Diane Abbott, your faction lost two general elections, you then lost the leadership of the Labour Party. Keir Starmer has decided to roll that back — successfully — and, as they once said in Dad’s Army, “You don’t like it up you?”

She should've just answered "Dad's Army is shite, mate".

i'm sure Nick Robinson had no notion of the racist context of that quote

Indeed. "You stupid boy" would have done the trick.

NHS is buckling with a wait list of about 5m. There is only so much we can do with donations, community care and mutual aid to address food shortages etc. We can't fucking offer cancer treatment or fund everyone's housings. Sorry this has got so bleak but these are bleak times.

— Moya Lothian-Mclean (@mlothianmclean) September 28, 2021

Really vile

genuinely find the use of this phrase, which is a clear appeal to incredibly paranoid right-wing ppl, really disturbing. like, beyond regular levels of right-wing labour crap. it’s fairly close to incitement https://t.co/6PijC8pi73

— josie sparrow (@ofthesparrows) September 28, 2021

Come on, Aaron, tell us what you really think.

Getting Paul Mason on to discuss Labour is like asking Harold Shipman to sermonise about self care. He’s talked nothing but utter gibberish for 18 months #newsnight https://t.co/r7OtsNVuKL

— Aaron Bastani (@AaronBastani) September 28, 2021

Starmer's reputation has taken a pounding among Britons this year (net scores shown)

Competence: -6 (down from +21 in Jan)
Likeable: -14 (down from +8)
Trustworthy: -14 (down from 0)
Decisive: -27 (down from +3)
Strong: -31 (down from +4)https://t.co/JWZAB9ellO pic.twitter.com/wfvHBhQVEG

— YouGov (@YouGov) September 29, 2021

no conference boost in the polling because the more time in the spotlight he get's the more it draws attention to what a despicable, unlikable, untrustworthy ... etc

oh that polling cuts off in July? Maybe his barnstorming conference speech will turn this slump around

"Go back to your constituencies and prepare for oblivion!" *conference rises as one*

We're ready.

Momentum has told supporters at Labour conference that any responses with chants during Starmer’s speech should be focus on £15 min wage and ten pledges, and “absolutely not on the previous leadership”.

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) September 29, 2021

Fucking Momentum lol

Lammy being an idiot

We will not be making proposals that cannot be costed, the public need to know where the money is coming from.

Clearly it was the case at the last general election, we were coming up with policies like free broadband, policies on pensions for women, a four-day week, and the public were saying ‘how much is this going to cost’?

It was coming at the last minute, they felt confused and they didn’t feel able to trust us because of some of the issues that were dominating the party.

Keir is not going to make that mistake, things have to be costed.

Momentum has told supporters at Labour conference that during Starmer's speech they should hum quietly, consistently increasing in volume, pitch and intensity until he finishes and “absolutely not shout 'WET WIPE!' whenever he pauses for breath”.

I'm not going to make the mistake of defending Lammy again, sorry I ever did.

it was all fucking costed Lammy

people will just lie about anything won’t they?

Costing everything is going to kill us all.

"they didn’t feel able to trust us because of some of the issues that were dominating the party"

= because evil people were constantly lying about the party while people like DL weren't contradicting them.

Kberg only tweeting about the heckles and only that they are being thwarted. That's the only point of interest.

I stuck Keith’s speech on and made it as far as: when I was a fed, a woman got murdered and I shouted at someone that if I didn’t have time for to chat to their parents, what kind of cunt am I? Any way something came up and I had to rearrange (radio off)

Oh sorry there was a big round of applause he had to rearrange

Just catching up on this.

Former police officer Wayne Couzens in court for sentencing. Court hears he had police handcuffs, arrested her & used his knowledge of police Covid patrols to detain her.

— lucy manning (@lucymanning) September 29, 2021

Refers to the young women he recently met in Stoke who told him they dare not go to their high street alone: “they see more violence and fewer police… the Tories are letting you down. And I can promise you that will never happen under my leadership”

on the very day that horrific details from the Sarah Everard trial are leading, not that there is a good time for his "more cops" attempts to appeal to Tory voters.

lol what pic.twitter.com/Ke6IV4bZHL

— Agree to disagree 🍊 🍊 🍊 (@StefGotBooted) September 29, 2021

lol

Starmer getting conf to clap the line ‘we are patriots’ by linking it to supporting England players taking the knee. Clever again. The Times’s loss of Phil Collins is speechwriting’s gain. (Now they’re clapping NATO) #lab21

— gabyhinsliff (@gabyhinsliff) September 29, 2021

well take a look at him now

can't believe this is real https://t.co/mnYXigQp39

— UEFA SNIPER (@dreamboatslim) September 29, 2021

The trusty “Webster’s dictionary” gambit beloved of high school word-padders everywhere

I just want a nationality that isn't Kieth's