"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

lol he's really fucked it and his failure is now the biggest story of the conference. But he's still going for less ambitious reforms designed to undermine party democracy and are counterintuitive to connecting with people and the rest the drivel he chats

One key Starmer ally now accepts reforms have to change - but still optimistic left will be "howling" with outrage and claims of betrayal by Sunday

just calmly posting as they normally do

Those around Starmer believe he will deliver a speech with echoes of Hugh Gaitskell - a cri de coeur for Labour’s modernisers

I find it quite easy to imagine him losing an election very badly and then ...

I was surprised to read that Corbyn would have still won in 2015 and the Smith leadership challenge if you subtracted the votes of registered members, yet Luke is talking about scrapping them as preventative measure against another 2015 "hijacking". And I reckon next leadership slate was already going to be some grim shit even without the MP nominations threshold changes.

We’re getting to a point where new members won’t be able to vote but can be selected as an MP.

Meanwhile GMB left members saying their union’s preferred candidate last year Nandy would not have made it to ballot.

the "GMB left" that's a good one

wonder who it could have been https://t.co/tiMUwBf0NO pic.twitter.com/TR0AZsSUZO

— axaxaxas lmaö (@demarionunn) September 24, 2021

I don't see why these other proposals get through tbh

I don't see any motivation for the unions to vote them through but god knows what horse-trading will be going on. lol maybe Kieth will be upping the the minimum wage 10p at a time until they break.

I mean, accept for one minute that fuel shortages are a Westminster bubble issue, and the real man and woman in the street in the Red Wall cab most about destroying the labour left. How much closer to that goal have the geniuses got this week? Not the width of a single pamphlet

— Dan Davies (@dsquareddigest) September 25, 2021

that typo is otm because Kieth was responding to indifferent vox pops to him in Darlington by saying talk to the cab drivers next time they really respect me

The last three Labour leadership election candidates supported by @GMB_union failed to get 25% of nominations from the PLP.

Miliband - 24.51%
Corbyn - 15.52%
Nandy - 14.6%

Are they really going to sign away their ability to get their candidate on the ballot paper?

— Elliot Dugdale (@ElliotDugdale) September 25, 2021

https://culturepowerpolitics.org/2021/09/24/keir-starmers-the-road-ahead/

I'm quite enjoying listening to these lefty polprofs discussing the flop Starmphlet.

While Lab eats itself.

https://nowthenmagazine.com/articles/sheffield-tenants-facing-eviction-from-their-homes-over-as-little-as-292

tenant rights and landlord reforms just never comes up at the focus groups

BREAKING- Starmer’s deal makes it through the NEC. Leadership candidate threshold will be 20% of MPs.

(25% always sounded like an opening offer...)

— Jessica Elgot (@jessicaelgot) September 25, 2021

job's fucked (for any leadership candidate to the left of Rayner) when the rotting ham get's chucked

Another Labour left source says "20% is by definition the white man status quo amendment".

as if the membership would vote for Zarah Sultana in big numbers under the previous candidate threshold anyway.

Starmer said: “I’m very pleased these party reforms have got the backing of our NEC. These proposals put us in a better position to win the next general election and I hope constituency and trade union delegates will support them when they come to conference floor.”

— Sienna Rodgers (@siennamarla) September 25, 2021

The threshold for selecting a new leader will improve Labour's chances in the next GE?

I mean, yes but

https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2021/sep/24/a-bit-of-a-mistery-why-england-covid-cases-are-going-down-despite-ease-of-restrictions?

It is looking v good. And surely no 'mistery'?

David Evans : " Everybody remembers why they joined Labour. What was it for you?". People in the conference shout JEREMY CORBYN.

Lol he totally walked into it.

David Evans (acting General Secretary): " Everybody remembers why they joined Labour. What was it for you?". People in the conference shout JEREMY CORBYN. #Lab21 pic.twitter.com/T2KCDja1Dt

— Saul Staniforth (@SaulStaniforth) September 25, 2021

Indifference, inhuman and degrading treatment of young woman in Sodexo run Bronzefield prison. The key question we need to ask is why she was in prison in the first place – she could and should have been kept safely in the community. https://t.co/dPP1sG8A3H

— Deborah Coles (@DebatINQUEST) September 25, 2021

Corbyn tells Young Labour event in last leadership election Starmer “promised unity, but instead we are given division.

“We were promised ten pledges - and where are they? We were promised effective opposition, but instead the Tories have been given a free pass time & again”

just saying what everyone else is saying

5,000 overseas lorry drivers and 5,500 poultry workers will be eligible for three-month UK visas until Christmas Eve https://t.co/g9bCbEtucP

— BBC Breaking News (@BBCBreaking) September 25, 2021

So fucked...but it's the future.

let me make sure i've got this straight

- wages are not high enough to attract poultry workers and truck drivers here to fill these jobs
- so workers from elsewhere are imported to do the work
- prices of goods and chicken can now stay low
- so that our underemployed and underpaid workforce can afford them

is this the moment that the remainiacs crew find out that "we need low paid EU labour to pick our crops" isn't quite the slam dunk they imagined it was?

pic.twitter.com/ZWkTqhfCRf

— ToboBobo (@tobobobo) September 25, 2021

xp

no point expecting any self reflection/self awareness from these fucking clowns at this point in the game

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDSPgorO6hs

yeah pay more to the low paid workers that you aren't deporting this week

i’m construing that as a little tip for the UK

not a good example!

Delegates suspended, prevented from entering Conference, or turned away for wearing Corbyn t-shirts. Rule changes to restrict democratic participation and insulate an out-of-touch elite from accountability. Morbid symptoms of a Party utterly unsuited to the moment and the times.

— Joe Guinan (@joecguinan) September 25, 2021

Asked whether Labour would renationalise the big six energy firms, Keir Starmer says: "No." He adds: "I do not agree with the argument that says we must be ideological."

because Thatcherism isn't an ideology and its legacy will be putting millions of people into fuel poverty while this tool courts Tory voters.

Rachel Reeves announces an Office of Value for Money

It’s the central proposal of our recent report Prizing the Public Pound

this would be quite laughable if it wasn't imbued with the purest of evil intent.

Peter Piper prized a pound from the public purse

Lisa Nandy was giving one of them apocryphal anecdotes about a "working class" constituent phoning her with concerns about the public pound and Labour offering too much under Corbyn.

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FAFG_b8VkAc1bYR?format=png&name=small

oh it's an old one and this was a dig aimed at Ed Miliband's out of control austerity lite program!

Very Serious People

there is a funny otm comment in the thread about Nandy: she has the demeanour of a copper telling you a relative had died in an accident.

NEW: Peter Mandelson publicly backs Keir Starmer's reforms, saying millions of voters "know what [they] mean" and are "cheering" him on.

Starmer allies confident ahead of vote later.

New Labour grandee tells me: "Millions of Labour voters are cheering and egging Keir on..." 1/2

— Gabriel Pogrund (@Gabriel_Pogrund) September 26, 2021

egging him sounds like a plan

this unbridled enthusiasm for Kieth's factionalist power grab is not often reflected in the high street vox pops, nor any public "meet the people" appearances where he anonymously trudges the streets. No it's just most of the PLP and the Graun/right wing media who actually have any enthusiasm for it.

any of the thin gruel he's offering is drowned out by most of the reportage being about his anti-democratic reforms and also are completely undermined by his rep as a liar. Even The Mirror are commenting on him tearing up his public ownership pledge. Even though he used the vague term "Common Ownership" he did lie to a hustings audience that he would re-nationalise water and electricity.

because that’s “ideological” apparently. not because they’re essential public services that private industry has been relentlessly cocking up despite lining their pockets with millions. ffs.

POLL: Would you support bringing energy companies back into public ownership?

White heavy check mark Support: 53%
Cross mark Oppose: 15%

Via
@OpiniumResearch
, September 2021

he could be even a few points ahead if he wasn't so stuck on the Thatcherite ideology

but if these millions of lifelong Labour voters dying to flock back to the Party as long as it doesn't offer socialism aren't real then why on earth would the non-ideological centrists make them up?