"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

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Would anyone have wanted to hear the song Sixteen Tons if it'd been called 14515 Kilos? I think not.

By the way, if greengrocers are so named because they're grocers who deal exclusively in fruit n' veg, why aren't butchers called redgrocers?

it's gonna take a spiracle (Matt #2), Friday, 17 September 2021 12:54 (four years ago)

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/17/appeal-court-overturns-uk-puberty-blockers-ruling-for-under-16s-tavistock-keira-bell

A rare piece of good news.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 17 September 2021 13:48 (four years ago)

There's an interview with the fox killer somewhere where he basically said that the original judge was clearly a total loon and that her ruling was premised on total disregard for judicial norms. There do seem to be quite a few high-up terfs abusing their positions to try and establish worrying precedents eg the barrister who conducted the review for Essex (that resulted in them apologising to a couple of transphobic visiting lecturers) before turning around and publicly congratulating Maya Forster's legal team (populated by swivel eyed loons I'm told). Nevertheless the rheindorf report has gotten trotted out in things like Sonia sodha comment bits as though it was a) authoritative or binding in some way and b) authored by a neutral party. Anyway yes good news but these weirdos never sleep so

plax (ico), Friday, 17 September 2021 15:43 (four years ago)

Plus, as I discovered far too recently, they don't use stones in the US, only pounds.

We have a UK scale in my office here in the US and I love it when undergrads see it and try to figure it out... a lot of them guess it's showing kilograms, if you had any doubt that the metric system is 100% meaningless to most Americans. Although yards are well known here; football uses them.

Jaime Pressly and America (f. hazel), Friday, 17 September 2021 16:09 (four years ago)

Yards are definitely used in the US.

How does Spock's brain come into this? (Tom D.), Friday, 17 September 2021 17:06 (four years ago)

I heard when Kieth is talking about football he often refers to the 18.28 metres box

calzino, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:11 (four years ago)

It always makes me roll my eyes when us crosswords use "in England" as part of a clue for a metric unit, like yeah this is the home of that

cheesons to be rearful (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 September 2021 17:31 (four years ago)

I said they don't use yards much, not that they don't use them at all. They use them in football and golf, but that's about it. Road measurements that would be in yards in the UK are in feet in the US. I've known Americans who didn't even know how many feet were in a yard.

bovarism, Friday, 17 September 2021 17:54 (four years ago)

Fabric is measured in yards.

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Friday, 17 September 2021 17:56 (four years ago)

The Whole Nine, even

cheesons to be rearful (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:10 (four years ago)

Actually come to think of it isn't American Football the most obvious regular use of yards?

cheesons to be rearful (Noodle Vague), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:11 (four years ago)

Statement. pic.twitter.com/BtaibQTcXH

— Kate Osborne MP šŸ’™šŸŒˆ (@KateOsborneMP) September 17, 2021

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:21 (four years ago)

Another ā€˜admin error’.

Scampo di tutti i Scampi (ShariVari), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:23 (four years ago)

ā€œI was told I could not discuss the matter with anyone - except the Samaritansā€

very classy

calzino, Friday, 17 September 2021 19:15 (four years ago)

This is the tweet for which a Labour MP, Kate Osborne, was put under investigation.

David Evans has to go. pic.twitter.com/j1JjVQT50J

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) September 17, 2021

you don't get this treatment for showing solidarity with a bigot like Duffield

calzino, Friday, 17 September 2021 21:20 (four years ago)

Fabric is measured in yards.

― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:56 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

As someone who buys fabric in and out of the UK… this is not true, unless referred to America

a hoy hoy, Friday, 17 September 2021 22:20 (four years ago)

I don't really know what a yard is (roughly a metre?) ofc Ireland had its own insanities: for road signs it was miles if the sign was white and old, kilometres if the sign was green, but then it was also kilometres if the sign was white and new (they've probably replaced them all by now though)

bring back furlongs

bespoke sausages (seandalai), Friday, 17 September 2021 22:34 (four years ago)

furlongs is too horseracing

calzino, Friday, 17 September 2021 22:43 (four years ago)

Greyhound racing is measured in metres but I'm sure I often heard the commentary in the bookies saying trap x is x yards ahead. I don't smoke weed but someone commented that it is bulk sold in ounces and also distributed in grams.

calzino, Saturday, 18 September 2021 08:35 (four years ago)

Fabric is measured in metres in the UK (or half metres if the shop is overpriced and they're trying to look less expensive at first)

plax (ico), Saturday, 18 September 2021 09:13 (four years ago)

Oh, I was talking about the US because there were posts saying we don’t use yards much.

Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Saturday, 18 September 2021 10:14 (four years ago)

Lol there's a metres and yards bit on the Simpsons ep I'm half watching right now

that which does not chungus makes us chonger (Noodle Vague), Saturday, 18 September 2021 10:23 (four years ago)

This made me chuckle yesterday, just the sheer insanity of it. And this is what they want to go back to lol

Tried to explain imperial measurements to the 5-year olds this morning. pic.twitter.com/fovYeItiUS

— Professor Pragya Agarwal (@DrPragyaAgarwal) September 17, 2021

groovypanda, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:18 (four years ago)

took this opportunity to remind myself what an acre is = one (1) chain x one (1) furlong

then felt everyone else needed to enjoy this handy explanatory diagram (which introduces perches and rood but ignores chains and furlongs)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Comparison_land_area_units.svg/440px-Comparison_land_area_units.svg.png

mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:25 (four years ago)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z-dJ35fOiM

mark s, Saturday, 18 September 2021 11:26 (four years ago)

just realised it isn't "yards" greyhound racing commentary commonly uses to describe distances between the frontrunner and back, it's "lengths"

calzino, Saturday, 18 September 2021 17:37 (four years ago)

The twitter video was properly useful, knowing it's 11*10*16 feet in a mile will actually make it easier for me to remember that.

(also of course 12->10 is switching to something 'neater' from something more useful on a day to day basis pre-calculator-in-your-timepiece - you can cut 12 into every number from 1-6 except 5, and if you want five then you can go large to 60, which we still for time. 11 is still stupid, though)

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 18 September 2021 19:07 (four years ago)

yards! I meant yards.

Andrew Farrell, Saturday, 18 September 2021 19:08 (four years ago)

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E_lJoBQXoBAb0dN?format=jpg&name=large

I say if millions of people linked out their electric meters or just stopped paying in protest then they can't put us all in prison.

calzino, Sunday, 19 September 2021 08:56 (four years ago)

edf always email to say "meter reading by the 21st, please" and then text "we still haven't had a meter reading" on the 17th, which annoys me.

and the one time they credited my gas payment to the electricity account leaving the gas in arrears for 3 months before anybody noticed but nothing happened.

looking at that chart it's no wonder they (French) are keen on selling to England.

koogs, Sunday, 19 September 2021 09:02 (four years ago)

I have a combined gas/electric monthly dd and they used to inform me every april they were lowering it to account for the lower gas consumption of the summer months so the account didn't go too far into credit. At some point in the last few years they stopped doing that.

calzino, Sunday, 19 September 2021 09:10 (four years ago)

I’m on quarterly bills because I don’t want EDF having DD access to my account. They seem to try for five bills a year based on when they ask for a meter reading but I just ignore those letters and provide a reading once a quarter, based on being a month and a half away from my quarterly BT bill.

the thin blue lying (suzy), Sunday, 19 September 2021 12:42 (four years ago)

can't remember if i saw this here or just random Twitter but the panicky looks at 38s...

Sir Roger Gale (Tory MP) says one farming business in his constituency has had to trash £320,000 worth of produce due to no pickers and no drivers.

There are cries of ā€œBrexit, Brexitā€ around the house… and the Govt front bench looks nervous.pic.twitter.com/uOE02uMe5w

— Dr Mike Galsworthy (@mikegalsworthy) September 15, 2021

koogs, Sunday, 19 September 2021 13:10 (four years ago)

maybe those farmers should attempt paying an attractive wage

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 September 2021 13:11 (four years ago)

probably would cost something south of £320,000

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 September 2021 13:11 (four years ago)

my friend who i helped move out of her london flat yesterday and today told me that when she filled up her car on sat morn for the big drive to norfok she had to go to three petrol stations before she found one actually currently selling petrol lol

also the combo firm she pays for her gas and electricity has gone bust and she currently has no one she actually can pay and her housing assocn doesn't know what's going to happen (and two similar firms have gone bust)

mark s, Sunday, 19 September 2021 13:58 (four years ago)

Would probably cost more than the profit margin on that £320k though. Which is crushed because the markets drove it right down to the level where farming is only possible with very low-paid labour.

Govt needs to somehow force UK workers to take the worst possible wages for jobs (during a worker shortage that is driving wages up), or watch prices soar on top of already Covid-inflated prices. What will they choose. (Lol both obviously) xp

stet, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:04 (four years ago)

maybe those farmers should attempt paying an attractive wage

How many of the Tory cunts voted for Brexit too I wonder.

Are You Still in Love With Me, Klas-Gƶran? (Tom D.), Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:09 (four years ago)

we seem to be reaching a point that Boris and his big brain didn't allow for tho - that Brexit voters accept that this is a consequence of Brexit, don't care because they're still pro Brexit, but do blame this government for fucking up the post Brexit settlement. and they won't care whether that's logical or not

that which does not chungus makes us chonger (Noodle Vague), Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:19 (four years ago)

Farmers being farmers again is it. It's strange that in the Major years that harvesting was one of the only jobs with a national minimum wage even that was a massive £3.83 pH.

calzino, Sunday, 19 September 2021 14:20 (four years ago)

as mark says the govt appears to be quite relaxed about letting smaller energy firms fail. are farms who refuse to pay wages high enough to attract a workforce any more worthy of a bailout?

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 September 2021 15:50 (four years ago)

yes they’d need to raise prices. yes working people would then need bigger paychecks to pay for their weekly shop. don’t threaten me with a good time

Tracer Hand, Sunday, 19 September 2021 15:51 (four years ago)

going to end up with corn laws in a minute because if they raise prices above the level where imports are cheaper supermarkets will import and still not buy from them, then you really are into bullshit bailout territory just to keep British farms going.

Like NV says, Brexit promised the impossible (fewer immigrant workers, higher wages, same prices, no shortages) and now govt expected to deliver it somehow.

stet, Sunday, 19 September 2021 17:53 (four years ago)

see also promise to level up but not to affect the south, promise to solve housing crisis but not to affect boomer property prices, promise to fund social care but not to make elderly pay etc etc

stet, Sunday, 19 September 2021 17:56 (four years ago)

Know it's the Torygraph and it has Blair quotes in it but it's actually an ok piece that sketches out the scenarios.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/global-health/science-and-disease/will-winter-lockdown-experts-set-three-scenarios-good-bad/

xyzzzz__, Sunday, 19 September 2021 20:02 (four years ago)

I baulked more at the Lolico quote, but at least it followed it up with a counter Lolico quote!

calzino, Sunday, 19 September 2021 20:18 (four years ago)

Those energy bailouts might be in the works https://on.ft.com/3CpCD9J

stet, Sunday, 19 September 2021 23:21 (four years ago)

meanwhile the farmers are doing their own bailing. I got some serious country knowledge from a farm cattle herding lady the other day. She said dairy cows won't charge at you, herds of beef cows on the other hand need to be watched and might make a run for you. That makes perfect sense tbf.

calzino, Sunday, 19 September 2021 23:49 (four years ago)

It's maddening to read a story like that one in the Telegraph full of "It's reassuring that we haven't seen case numbers climb to higher levels" and "<in this situation> Cases start to rise again" when cases have been rising steadily for months (they've plummeted in the last week, but so has testing) and deaths have also been on the march - from an weekly average of 14.4 on the 20th of June to 144 last Thursday.

Andrew Farrell, Monday, 20 September 2021 09:48 (four years ago)

Some of the modelling did have case numbers at 100k but we've not been at half that.

Hospitalisations are around 6-8k for weeks and deaths have been around one to two hundred now since mid-July?

No signs right now that it will get as bad as last winter.

xyzzzz__, Monday, 20 September 2021 10:14 (four years ago)


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