"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

Be interesting to see if Ash votes for them.

Cancelled my Labour membership for a variety of reasons, but honestly, the politics of the present leadership being completely fucking boring is prime amongst them.

— Ash Sarkar (@AyoCaesar) September 16, 2021

It's not great phrasing. The politics of the leadership are harmful.

It's perfect that the 'edging away from the pub bore' line for the Times article is "Pubs will also be allowed to sell pints in glass printed with the crown stamp that was prohibited by EU directives. The single market rule..."

The Bush line seems fairly straightforward - Corbynites are claiming that there were no Starmer policies and lots of Corbyn policies, which would be bad for Corbyn because policies are bad. They should agree with me that there were some Corbyn policies but far more Starmer policies, which would be good for Corbyn because policies are bad. I am very smart.

There is also this:

I’m exactly as Jewish as SKB is (which is to say, through one grandparent, and not brought up remotely in the faith or the culture), and I would feel deeply uncomfortable taking the community/identity stances he’s taken in the last few years.

— Elvis Buñuelo (@Mr_Considerate) September 16, 2021

Yougov has the Tories gaining six points from last week from other parties. Lab stuck on 35%.

Keith will need to kill more Alpacas.

just needs to slow down on the policies - the electorate is feeling quite overwhelmed by the vast numbers of them rn

lol Bush used to seem quite erudite and witty, then his brain broke.

he's such a humourless supercilious prick these days he'll never admit that he wrote something incredibly stupid. HOW DARE YOU MOCK MY GODZILLA MOVIE POST YOU UNWORTHY PLEB! As has already been said, it's quite odd he's doubled down on this because he's not even a genuine Kieth supporter anyway, other than for him being anyone but Corbyn. He lost me when he started expressing his frothing admiration/bizarre fandom for fucking David Cameron.

I mean, they're publicly available, and seeing as there are so few of them, it shouldn't take you long to count them yourself, right? Come on, think it through. (In your own time, I'm muting you, obvs!)

lol still at it last night. No well paid journalist should ever be put in the invidious position of providing evidence for one of their claims ... now go away pleb.

delving even slightly into the list of imperial measures is bringing up my natural challopsism something chronic: YES to foot-poundals, the unit associated with gravitation somehow (go read it yrself he said s.k.bushily) is the SLUG, love to use a good solid olde english term like the DRACHM

The schools pushed the metric system hard in the 70's, but you'd still buy boiled sweets weighed on olde weighing scales in the cornershop, but I can't remember what ounces looked like even though I think probably drug dealers were still using ounces in the 90's. I can almost cut an exact 40g chunk of butter by sight rather than weighing but lb/oz seem as pointless to me as the old money these days tbh. I think this is something I will align with the FBPE crowd on.

tbh this feels like something that has dwindled in salience with the omnipresence of smartphones: just DL a conversion app!

greengrocers (the actual so-called martyrs here) sell by the "amount you want" anyway and charge exactly what they choose (their primary constraint is the greengrocer down the street charging two groats less for the same amount) (except the apples are all slightly difft sizes so it's not the same)

let the merchants be the thieves they are! (apologoes to any greengrocers who post to ilx, i dont mean you)

it's well known that greengrocers are the real organised criminals not drug dealers!

I’d guess it also helps facilitate trade with the US if you don’t need to ruthlessly scrub all imperial measurements from packaging.

Idk if grocers regularly get prosecuted for selling in lb and oz or if, as in the 2001 case, it’s only if you punch the trading standards inspector in the face.

Problem there is that a US pint is 8oz rather than 10, which throws everything off.

Duh I mean 16 rather than 20.

whats that in drachms

I fancy a drachm of beer mainly because it's a good word

and a US fl oz is different to a UK one which complicates that further

Just let me buy my 32oz of Nerds and go about my business.

Plus, as I discovered far too recently, they don't use stones in the US, only pounds.

they don't use yards much either iirc

and then they use 'cups' for recipes

Would anyone have wanted to hear the song Sixteen Tons if it'd been called 14515 Kilos? I think not.

By the way, if greengrocers are so named because they're grocers who deal exclusively in fruit n' veg, why aren't butchers called redgrocers?

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2021/sep/17/appeal-court-overturns-uk-puberty-blockers-ruling-for-under-16s-tavistock-keira-bell

A rare piece of good news.

There's an interview with the fox killer somewhere where he basically said that the original judge was clearly a total loon and that her ruling was premised on total disregard for judicial norms. There do seem to be quite a few high-up terfs abusing their positions to try and establish worrying precedents eg the barrister who conducted the review for Essex (that resulted in them apologising to a couple of transphobic visiting lecturers) before turning around and publicly congratulating Maya Forster's legal team (populated by swivel eyed loons I'm told). Nevertheless the rheindorf report has gotten trotted out in things like Sonia sodha comment bits as though it was a) authoritative or binding in some way and b) authored by a neutral party. Anyway yes good news but these weirdos never sleep so

Plus, as I discovered far too recently, they don't use stones in the US, only pounds.

We have a UK scale in my office here in the US and I love it when undergrads see it and try to figure it out... a lot of them guess it's showing kilograms, if you had any doubt that the metric system is 100% meaningless to most Americans. Although yards are well known here; football uses them.

Yards are definitely used in the US.

I heard when Kieth is talking about football he often refers to the 18.28 metres box

It always makes me roll my eyes when us crosswords use "in England" as part of a clue for a metric unit, like yeah this is the home of that

I said they don't use yards much, not that they don't use them at all. They use them in football and golf, but that's about it. Road measurements that would be in yards in the UK are in feet in the US. I've known Americans who didn't even know how many feet were in a yard.

Fabric is measured in yards.

The Whole Nine, even

Actually come to think of it isn't American Football the most obvious regular use of yards?

Statement. pic.twitter.com/BtaibQTcXH

— Kate Osborne MP 💙🌈 (@KateOsborneMP) September 17, 2021

Another ‘admin error’.

“I was told I could not discuss the matter with anyone - except the Samaritans”

very classy

This is the tweet for which a Labour MP, Kate Osborne, was put under investigation.

David Evans has to go. pic.twitter.com/j1JjVQT50J

— Alex Nunns (@alexnunns) September 17, 2021

you don't get this treatment for showing solidarity with a bigot like Duffield

Fabric is measured in yards.

― Notes on Scampo (tokyo rosemary), Friday, 17 September 2021 18:56 (four hours ago) bookmarkflaglink

As someone who buys fabric in and out of the UK… this is not true, unless referred to America

I don't really know what a yard is (roughly a metre?) ofc Ireland had its own insanities: for road signs it was miles if the sign was white and old, kilometres if the sign was green, but then it was also kilometres if the sign was white and new (they've probably replaced them all by now though)

bring back furlongs

furlongs is too horseracing

Greyhound racing is measured in metres but I'm sure I often heard the commentary in the bookies saying trap x is x yards ahead. I don't smoke weed but someone commented that it is bulk sold in ounces and also distributed in grams.

Fabric is measured in metres in the UK (or half metres if the shop is overpriced and they're trying to look less expensive at first)

Oh, I was talking about the US because there were posts saying we don’t use yards much.

Lol there's a metres and yards bit on the Simpsons ep I'm half watching right now

This made me chuckle yesterday, just the sheer insanity of it. And this is what they want to go back to lol

Tried to explain imperial measurements to the 5-year olds this morning. pic.twitter.com/fovYeItiUS

— Professor Pragya Agarwal (@DrPragyaAgarwal) September 17, 2021

took this opportunity to remind myself what an acre is = one (1) chain x one (1) furlong

then felt everyone else needed to enjoy this handy explanatory diagram (which introduces perches and rood but ignores chains and furlongs)
https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/7/7f/Comparison_land_area_units.svg/440px-Comparison_land_area_units.svg.png

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5z-dJ35fOiM

just realised it isn't "yards" greyhound racing commentary commonly uses to describe distances between the frontrunner and back, it's "lengths"