congrats CA. 2 more years of non-apocalypse
― "HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link
Well, strictly speaking 1 and a couple of months, but anyway.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link
maybe the recallers will get mad & team up with the State of Jefferson secession weirdos & they successfully seccede & they hold recalls five times a year and leave the rest of us to go about our lives
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link
Remaining slate of Republican gubernatorial candidates, serious contenders all, said to be distraught pic.twitter.com/JP1knJW4zd— NoLongerYourFriendHat (@Popehat) September 15, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link
$276m but kevin faulconer's career is over swings and roundabouts
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link
Imagining the tang of desperation in that room
Elder campaign manager Jeff Corless onstage. "It's just the beginning, right?" he says. "We've got a long night ahead of us."I've covered *close* races where candidates didn't concede after an AP call, but not one this lopsided.— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link
I'm glad this vote negated Kevin Faulconer
If Larry Elder is who the Republican Party of California wants to nominate in 2022, have at it
― Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link
ELDER CONCEDES"Let's be gracious in defeat," Elder says. "We may have lost the battle, but we are going to win the war."— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link
umm, no you're not
― Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:17 (two years ago) link
over my dead body
― terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:33 (two years ago) link
that's how wars work
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:50 (two years ago) link
it's not going to be much of a war
― Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:31 (two years ago) link
we aren't going to elect this asshole as our governor, ever
― Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:42 (two years ago) link
the least those assholes can do is reimburse the state for the cost of this bullshit.
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:53 (two years ago) link
am curious about how people voted on the second question
― Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link
I couldn't vote for anyone, but am curious what percentage of people voted for a replacement, and who did they vote for
― Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:21 (two years ago) link
looks like the majority were left blank
#CAGov Recall Update+30,633 votes from LOS ANGELES CountyRECALL Y: 35.80%RECALL N: 64.20%46.59% Elder (R)9.92% Paffrath (D)8.69% Faulconer (R)5.67% Ross (D)4.44% Cox (R)3.17% Kiley (R)https://t.co/PmV0tcdJe3 pic.twitter.com/33oaSz2fN1— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) September 15, 2021
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:49 (two years ago) link
caitlyn running a strong 13th
― symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link
i voted for one of the Green ones
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link
Nixon was born in California; Reagan was a product of California.
And Elder was the best they could come up with?
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link
both Nixon and Reagan are dead fwiw
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link
True that
Anyway, it's now clear that Newsome's victory was all part of 'The Plan':
With the contest decided, QAnon believers quickly coalesced around the narrative that Newsom had to win in order for their "plan" to go into action.
"Is there any reason to think that the team of cyber experts on the Space Force haven't tracked this election just like they did with the 2020 one?" one user posted on a popular QAnon forum. "That it's a case of allowing the crime to be committed in order to hold the perpetrators accountable seems likely to me."
"I'm sure Space Force has all the details of the Cali fraud that they KNEW was coming," another added. "Newsom is trapped. GITMO awaits."
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link
Newsome's victory is indeed flawed and bad, but Newsom did all right.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link
dead nixon and reagan would've done better than elder, i think
xps
― grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link
Elder did much, much better than the last guy they ran for governor. I see him as an ongoing concern.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link
Someone really needs to introduce these Q people to choose your own adventure books.
― I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link
xp Much better? Not...really?
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_election#Results_2
If you take the basic yes/no as a de facto gubernatorial election, then Newsom's still doing better, and even as final votes are tallied I can't see it adjusting that much.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link
In that he'll make a lot of noise and could likely be the prospective winner in a GOP primary, no doubt. But that'll just make it easier to paint him as a sore loser.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link
Hoping Elder gets the nomination for the next election... Not only will he lose, he'll sink a bunch of down-ticket candidates with him
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link
The thing about Elder is, if he runs for congress in the right district, he'll get elected. I don't think that was true for Cox because he is too vain and rich to even consider it.
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link
Could see it on the one hand, on the other it seems that that's more the route for people to aim to become celebrities in the first place on that side of the GOP. Elder's already done that part, so.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link
Well... Elder's first fun was for governor of the most populous/wealthiest state in the union, I'd call that vanity. In the era of Trump, you don't mess around with the legislative branch, that's for losers and suckers.
― Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link
Vision Creation Newsome
sorry if that's joke already been made
― sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link
Elder would have a harder time in the red districts beating a local conservative for the House, I think. He's too much an outsider for them to really latch on to (racially, place of origin (LA), occupation, etc). He did well there for the recall because it was more of a "fuck you" to Newsom.
― nickn, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link
Let's say he moves to Irvine and runs against Katie Porter... I don't think the Republicans there will be like "well, he's not from Irvine..."
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link
But the main thing he'll do is continue to grow his audience
Larry Elder's failed run for governor will help Elder back at his day job on the radio, his distributor predicts: Phil Boyce, SVP at Salem, says "I expect that he will pick up stations in the future because of this." https://t.co/wzWFPtc1jA— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 15, 2021
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link
Let's say he moves to Irvine
I'll stop you right here
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link
haha there are some nice parts!
― reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link
I attended/worked at UCI from 1992 to 2015, trust me I know the area! But, he won't.
― Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link
there needs to be a penalty for recall failure, like the sponsors and candidates need to be banished from california or something. otherwise there's nothing to stop them from canvassing continuously and getting lucky with an occasional goat rodeo from now until whenever climate change delivers a 12-month fire season.
― Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link
They should have to reimburse the state for the costs of the recall
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link
Each signatory pays $250 would cover it.
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link
Wait, Qanon people think the Space Force investigates election fraud?
― Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link
That's precisely why Trump created the Force.. trust the plan, man
― Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link
feel good read https://www.latimes.com/politics/story/2021-09-16/california-republican-future-after-recall
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:05 (two years ago) link
Very. I love that Aaron Park clown, talk about not getting it.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link
Like to think ol' Larry is realizing that maybe going down as a two-time loser two years in a row is not AS good for business as might be thought.
BREAKING: "It's hard to see how the outcome would be any different unless I was able to raise at least as much money as @GavinNewsom has spent, but even then the thing is daunting." @LarryElder to @FrankBuckleyTV on why he may not run for governor again in 2022 #InsideCAPolitics pic.twitter.com/m40jqAa7pE— Inside California Politics (@CAinsider) September 16, 2021
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link
good, now extend the eviction moratorium and fix the agencies that are your responsibiltiy you shiny mother fucker
This morning, with the recall behind him, Governor Gavin Newsom officially signed SB 9 and SB 10. Duplexes are legal across California. Cue wonky arguments over whether this means CA just ended single-family zoning or whether that happened several years ago with ADUs.— Conor Dougherty (@ConorDougherty) September 16, 2021
― 𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link
Duplexes are legal across California.
...huh. This bemuses me because from 1979 to 1981 we lived in a duplex, though turning that around that was officer housing on Mare Island when it was actually a base, so I presume other rules applied.
― Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link
RE: that Larry Elder clip - I think he just admitted this was all a PR stunt, and a successful one at that... burnished the brand, maybe picked up a few stations for his radio show; it served its purpose, time to move on
― Andy the Grasshopper, Friday, 17 September 2021 00:42 (two years ago) link