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Should have had an option for β€œhell the fuck no”. Would have won by wide margin.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link

congrats CA. 2 more years of non-apocalypse

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link

Well, strictly speaking 1 and a couple of months, but anyway.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link

maybe the recallers will get mad & team up with the State of Jefferson secession weirdos & they successfully seccede & they hold recalls five times a year and leave the rest of us to go about our lives

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link

Remaining slate of Republican gubernatorial candidates, serious contenders all, said to be distraught pic.twitter.com/JP1knJW4zd

— NoLongerYourFriendHat (@Popehat) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link

$276m but kevin faulconer's career is over swings and roundabouts

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link

Imagining the tang of desperation in that room

Elder campaign manager Jeff Corless onstage. "It's just the beginning, right?" he says. "We've got a long night ahead of us."

I've covered *close* races where candidates didn't concede after an AP call, but not one this lopsided.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link

I'm glad this vote negated Kevin Faulconer

If Larry Elder is who the Republican Party of California wants to nominate in 2022, have at it

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link

ELDER CONCEDES

"Let's be gracious in defeat," Elder says. "We may have lost the battle, but we are going to win the war."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link

umm, no you're not

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:17 (two years ago) link

over my dead body

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:33 (two years ago) link

that's how wars work

it's not going to be much of a war

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:31 (two years ago) link

we aren't going to elect this asshole as our governor, ever

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:42 (two years ago) link

the least those assholes can do is reimburse the state for the cost of this bullshit.

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:53 (two years ago) link

am curious about how people voted on the second question

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link

I couldn't vote for anyone, but am curious what percentage of people voted for a replacement, and who did they vote for

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:21 (two years ago) link

looks like the majority were left blank

#CAGov Recall Update
+30,633 votes from LOS ANGELES County
RECALL Y: 35.80%
RECALL N: 64.20%

46.59% Elder (R)
9.92% Paffrath (D)
8.69% Faulconer (R)
5.67% Ross (D)
4.44% Cox (R)
3.17% Kiley (R)https://t.co/PmV0tcdJe3 pic.twitter.com/33oaSz2fN1

— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) September 15, 2021

symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:49 (two years ago) link

caitlyn running a strong 13th

symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link

i voted for one of the Green ones

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

Nixon was born in California; Reagan was a product of California.

And Elder was the best they could come up with?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

both Nixon and Reagan are dead fwiw

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

True that

Anyway, it's now clear that Newsome's victory was all part of 'The Plan':

With the contest decided, QAnon believers quickly coalesced around the narrative that Newsom had to win in order for their "plan" to go into action.

"Is there any reason to think that the team of cyber experts on the Space Force haven't tracked this election just like they did with the 2020 one?" one user posted on a popular QAnon forum. "That it's a case of allowing the crime to be committed in order to hold the perpetrators accountable seems likely to me."

"I'm sure Space Force has all the details of the Cali fraud that they KNEW was coming," another added. "Newsom is trapped. GITMO awaits."

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

Newsome's victory is indeed flawed and bad, but Newsom did all right.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link

dead nixon and reagan would've done better than elder, i think

xps

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

Elder did much, much better than the last guy they ran for governor. I see him as an ongoing concern.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

Someone really needs to introduce these Q people to choose your own adventure books.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

xp Much better? Not...really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_election#Results_2

If you take the basic yes/no as a de facto gubernatorial election, then Newsom's still doing better, and even as final votes are tallied I can't see it adjusting that much.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

In that he'll make a lot of noise and could likely be the prospective winner in a GOP primary, no doubt. But that'll just make it easier to paint him as a sore loser.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

Hoping Elder gets the nomination for the next election... Not only will he lose, he'll sink a bunch of down-ticket candidates with him

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

The thing about Elder is, if he runs for congress in the right district, he'll get elected. I don't think that was true for Cox because he is too vain and rich to even consider it.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

Could see it on the one hand, on the other it seems that that's more the route for people to aim to become celebrities in the first place on that side of the GOP. Elder's already done that part, so.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

Well... Elder's first fun was for governor of the most populous/wealthiest state in the union, I'd call that vanity. In the era of Trump, you don't mess around with the legislative branch, that's for losers and suckers.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Vision Creation Newsome

sorry if that's joke already been made

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

Elder would have a harder time in the red districts beating a local conservative for the House, I think. He's too much an outsider for them to really latch on to (racially, place of origin (LA), occupation, etc). He did well there for the recall because it was more of a "fuck you" to Newsom.

nickn, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

Let's say he moves to Irvine and runs against Katie Porter... I don't think the Republicans there will be like "well, he's not from Irvine..."

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

But the main thing he'll do is continue to grow his audience

Larry Elder's failed run for governor will help Elder back at his day job on the radio, his distributor predicts: Phil Boyce, SVP at Salem, says "I expect that he will pick up stations in the future because of this." https://t.co/wzWFPtc1jA

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 15, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

Let's say he moves to Irvine

I'll stop you right here

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link

haha there are some nice parts!

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:40 (two years ago) link

I attended/worked at UCI from 1992 to 2015, trust me I know the area! But, he won't.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:51 (two years ago) link

there needs to be a penalty for recall failure, like the sponsors and candidates need to be banished from california or something. otherwise there's nothing to stop them from canvassing continuously and getting lucky with an occasional goat rodeo from now until whenever climate change delivers a 12-month fire season.

Larry Elleison (rogermexico.), Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:05 (two years ago) link

They should have to reimburse the state for the costs of the recall

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 00:13 (two years ago) link

Each signatory pays $250 would cover it.

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 01:13 (two years ago) link

Wait, Qanon people think the Space Force investigates election fraud?

Porking level G4 (Boring, Maryland), Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:12 (two years ago) link

That's precisely why Trump created the Force.. trust the plan, man

Andy the Grasshopper, Thursday, 16 September 2021 02:57 (two years ago) link

Very. I love that Aaron Park clown, talk about not getting it.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 19:11 (two years ago) link

Like to think ol' Larry is realizing that maybe going down as a two-time loser two years in a row is not AS good for business as might be thought.

BREAKING: "It's hard to see how the outcome would be any different unless I was able to raise at least as much money as @GavinNewsom has spent, but even then the thing is daunting." @LarryElder to @FrankBuckleyTV on why he may not run for governor again in 2022 #InsideCAPolitics pic.twitter.com/m40jqAa7pE

— Inside California Politics (@CAinsider) September 16, 2021

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 21:44 (two years ago) link

good, now extend the eviction moratorium and fix the agencies that are your responsibiltiy you shiny mother fucker

This morning, with the recall behind him, Governor Gavin Newsom officially signed SB 9 and SB 10. Duplexes are legal across California. Cue wonky arguments over whether this means CA just ended single-family zoning or whether that happened several years ago with ADUs.

— Conor Dougherty (@ConorDougherty) September 16, 2021

π” π”žπ”’π”¨ (caek), Thursday, 16 September 2021 22:54 (two years ago) link

Duplexes are legal across California.

...huh. This bemuses me because from 1979 to 1981 we lived in a duplex, though turning that around that was officer housing on Mare Island when it was actually a base, so I presume other rules applied.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 September 2021 23:25 (two years ago) link


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