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Whole lotta nothing

Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link

“Voters gather in North Beach bar in hopes of a successful recall.” “Nearly two dozen people gathered at the Grant and Green Saloon to drink and watch for eventual election results. The mood was excited as people sipped on beer and played pool. Several people, including 34-year-old Richard Maher, voiced their support for San Diego Mayor Kevin Falconer”

https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/California-s-gubernatorial-recall-election-16456758.php

This is my neighborhood but it is not at all representative of my neighborhood

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:25 (two years ago) link

Oho, San Francisco just showed up & bested Alameda.

88% to 12% there for Newsom so far, among 245K early/mail ballots.

— Taniel (@Taniel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:31 (two years ago) link

Gavin Newsom is leading so far... in Orange County.

58% to 42% among the 720,000 ballots already counted.

This will tighten as more ballots are counted (early leans Dem), but for reference in 2018 Newsom won it by just 0.2% among 1.1 million votes. Nothing like what GOP needs.

— Taniel (@Taniel) September 15, 2021

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:32 (two years ago) link

i'm calling it

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link

sleep tight, CA. nothing could possibly go wrong

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:33 (two years ago) link

You say this now

NEW: Got a peek at some early CA-recall returns and folks, you're not going to believe this... pic.twitter.com/qFSSiaPZiw

— Jacob Rubashkin (@JacobRubashkin) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:38 (two years ago) link

many have been saying

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:41 (two years ago) link

Anyway, AP should be calling this soon enough.

Decision Desk HQ projects Gavin Newsom will be retained as governor of California.

Race Called At: 8:21 PM (Pacific)https://t.co/ObrAQC9TCH

— Decision Desk HQ (@DecisionDeskHQ) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:42 (two years ago) link

I would not call this a packed party.

Other networks might have called the race, but we’ve got Fox at the Elder party and they’re not Arizona-ing this one pic.twitter.com/o7n105xXsG

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:48 (two years ago) link

AP call.

BREAKING: California voters reject effort to remove Democratic Gov. Gavin Newsom from office in recall election. #APracecall at 8:46 p.m. PDT. #Election2021 #CAelection #CARecall

— AP Politics (@AP_Politics) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:49 (two years ago) link

And that's that.

Fox call onscreen, party getting slightly quieter pic.twitter.com/XKfqUOJFeY

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 03:50 (two years ago) link

Should have had an option for “hell the fuck no”. Would have won by wide margin.

that's not my post, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:02 (two years ago) link

congrats CA. 2 more years of non-apocalypse

"HYYOOOOOOONK!" is the sound I make (Karl Malone), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:10 (two years ago) link

Well, strictly speaking 1 and a couple of months, but anyway.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link

maybe the recallers will get mad & team up with the State of Jefferson secession weirdos & they successfully seccede & they hold recalls five times a year and leave the rest of us to go about our lives

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:14 (two years ago) link

Remaining slate of Republican gubernatorial candidates, serious contenders all, said to be distraught pic.twitter.com/JP1knJW4zd

— NoLongerYourFriendHat (@Popehat) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:19 (two years ago) link

$276m but kevin faulconer's career is over swings and roundabouts

𝔠𝔞𝔢𝔨 (caek), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:24 (two years ago) link

Imagining the tang of desperation in that room

Elder campaign manager Jeff Corless onstage. "It's just the beginning, right?" he says. "We've got a long night ahead of us."

I've covered *close* races where candidates didn't concede after an AP call, but not one this lopsided.

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:36 (two years ago) link

I'm glad this vote negated Kevin Faulconer

If Larry Elder is who the Republican Party of California wants to nominate in 2022, have at it

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 04:59 (two years ago) link

ELDER CONCEDES

"Let's be gracious in defeat," Elder says. "We may have lost the battle, but we are going to win the war."

— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 15, 2021

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:12 (two years ago) link

umm, no you're not

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:17 (two years ago) link

over my dead body

terminators of endearment (VegemiteGrrl), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:33 (two years ago) link

that's how wars work

think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 05:50 (two years ago) link

it's not going to be much of a war

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:31 (two years ago) link

we aren't going to elect this asshole as our governor, ever

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:42 (two years ago) link

the least those assholes can do is reimburse the state for the cost of this bullshit.

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 06:53 (two years ago) link

am curious about how people voted on the second question

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:14 (two years ago) link

I couldn't vote for anyone, but am curious what percentage of people voted for a replacement, and who did they vote for

Dan S, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 07:21 (two years ago) link

looks like the majority were left blank

#CAGov Recall Update
+30,633 votes from LOS ANGELES County
RECALL Y: 35.80%
RECALL N: 64.20%

46.59% Elder (R)
9.92% Paffrath (D)
8.69% Faulconer (R)
5.67% Ross (D)
4.44% Cox (R)
3.17% Kiley (R)https://t.co/PmV0tcdJe3 pic.twitter.com/33oaSz2fN1

— CATargetBot (@CATargetBot) September 15, 2021

symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:49 (two years ago) link

caitlyn running a strong 13th

symsymsym, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 09:57 (two years ago) link

i voted for one of the Green ones

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 15:30 (two years ago) link

Nixon was born in California; Reagan was a product of California.

And Elder was the best they could come up with?

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:20 (two years ago) link

both Nixon and Reagan are dead fwiw

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:34 (two years ago) link

True that

Anyway, it's now clear that Newsome's victory was all part of 'The Plan':

With the contest decided, QAnon believers quickly coalesced around the narrative that Newsom had to win in order for their "plan" to go into action.

"Is there any reason to think that the team of cyber experts on the Space Force haven't tracked this election just like they did with the 2020 one?" one user posted on a popular QAnon forum. "That it's a case of allowing the crime to be committed in order to hold the perpetrators accountable seems likely to me."

"I'm sure Space Force has all the details of the Cali fraud that they KNEW was coming," another added. "Newsom is trapped. GITMO awaits."

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:51 (two years ago) link

Newsome's victory is indeed flawed and bad, but Newsom did all right.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:52 (two years ago) link

dead nixon and reagan would've done better than elder, i think

xps

grove street (party) direction (voodoo chili), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 16:58 (two years ago) link

Elder did much, much better than the last guy they ran for governor. I see him as an ongoing concern.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:05 (two years ago) link

Someone really needs to introduce these Q people to choose your own adventure books.

I'm a sovereign jazz citizen (the table is the table), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:06 (two years ago) link

xp Much better? Not...really?

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2018_California_gubernatorial_election#Results_2

If you take the basic yes/no as a de facto gubernatorial election, then Newsom's still doing better, and even as final votes are tallied I can't see it adjusting that much.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:14 (two years ago) link

In that he'll make a lot of noise and could likely be the prospective winner in a GOP primary, no doubt. But that'll just make it easier to paint him as a sore loser.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:16 (two years ago) link

Hoping Elder gets the nomination for the next election... Not only will he lose, he'll sink a bunch of down-ticket candidates with him

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:18 (two years ago) link

The thing about Elder is, if he runs for congress in the right district, he'll get elected. I don't think that was true for Cox because he is too vain and rich to even consider it.

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:22 (two years ago) link

Could see it on the one hand, on the other it seems that that's more the route for people to aim to become celebrities in the first place on that side of the GOP. Elder's already done that part, so.

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:32 (two years ago) link

Well... Elder's first fun was for governor of the most populous/wealthiest state in the union, I'd call that vanity. In the era of Trump, you don't mess around with the legislative branch, that's for losers and suckers.

Andy the Grasshopper, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:33 (two years ago) link

Vision Creation Newsome

sorry if that's joke already been made

sarahell, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 17:59 (two years ago) link

Elder would have a harder time in the red districts beating a local conservative for the House, I think. He's too much an outsider for them to really latch on to (racially, place of origin (LA), occupation, etc). He did well there for the recall because it was more of a "fuck you" to Newsom.

nickn, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:03 (two years ago) link

Let's say he moves to Irvine and runs against Katie Porter... I don't think the Republicans there will be like "well, he's not from Irvine..."

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:27 (two years ago) link

But the main thing he'll do is continue to grow his audience

Larry Elder's failed run for governor will help Elder back at his day job on the radio, his distributor predicts: Phil Boyce, SVP at Salem, says "I expect that he will pick up stations in the future because of this." https://t.co/wzWFPtc1jA

— Brian Stelter (@brianstelter) September 15, 2021

reggae mike love (polyphonic), Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:33 (two years ago) link

Let's say he moves to Irvine

I'll stop you right here

Ned Raggett, Wednesday, 15 September 2021 18:38 (two years ago) link


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