lol, that's a very polite way to address an asswipe
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:21 (two years ago) link
actually maybe he was always addressing kevin's seat cushion?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:22 (two years ago) link
His older brother called him a butthead all the time (pretty sure you couldn't say "asswipe" on network TV in 1988), and the actor's name was Jason Hervey, previously seen as the child actor in Pee-Wee's Big Adventure.
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:28 (two years ago) link
And in back to the future. "What's a rerun??"
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
I only just watched Freaks and Geeks in its entirety for the first time earlier this year and it was...pretty good but not great? I think an essential element that I found lacking and that is most definitely present in my favorites of the genre (your My So-Called Lifes and your Gilmore Girlses) is the sense of getting a peek behind the curtain at the interior lives of the characters. Much of the show just felt kinda arms-length, like they didn't want us to know the characters too intimately or understood what really made them tick. I'll acknowledge that there were some exceptions (like Lindsay's grandma dying and driving her to rebel (although that wasn't really referenced past the first ep), Sam dealing with his dad's divorce). Nick was probably the most developed character. I dunno, it was well-observed and entertaining but it just didn't suck me in.
― Marty J. Bilge (Old Lunch), Saturday, 4 September 2021 16:31 (two years ago) link
the star power on freaks and geeks is just unfair, an unimpeachable show for that alone
― k3vin k., Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:39 (two years ago) link
xp i think that’s a fair critique of freaks and geeks though i wonder if they would have gotten there if they’d had more time.
― call all destroyer, Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:42 (two years ago) link
I found every character on F&G dislikable, a core piece of the teen TV world is that even villains aren't supposed to be wholly terrible (even if it requires a gay dad controversy for redemption).
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, 4 September 2021 21:49 (two years ago) link
that gay dad episode was so good
― Lily Dale, Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:02 (two years ago) link
Usually the 1st season of a long running show isn't good relative to when it hits its prime, so it's a shame we never got a chance to see "prime" Freaks and Geeks. Yet we got 27 seasons of friggin Everybody Loves Raymond.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:03 (two years ago) link
everybody loves raymond. everybody. right?
― Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
― papal hotwife (milo z), Saturday, September 4, 2021 5:49 PM (seventeen minutes ago)
kids suck!
― k3vin k., Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:09 (two years ago) link
Mainly inconsistencies with characters from season to season (and sometimes week to week).
I watched a bunch of Boy Meets World episodes recently and funnily enough, there's a similar diregard for continuity (Corey Matthews is Kevin Arnold's little brother irl). I don't think it matters that much, the show is heavily stylized and the dialog is strangely expositional. But clearly it wasn't designed for binge watching.
Only seen about half of these shows.
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:10 (two years ago) link
Any excuse to post this will dohttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sXipPKsbUHA
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Saturday, 4 September 2021 22:12 (two years ago) link
But clearly it wasn't designed for binge watching.
This is a great point. Not only could you not just pull up an entire series on Netflix or whatever, but you couldn't even really buy shows by the season until dvd—some series came out on vhs, but only very select titles like Twin Peaks, etc—so the producers of these dgaf about continuity because why bother.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Sunday, 5 September 2021 01:11 (two years ago) link
Freaks and Geeks was the best fuiud
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Sunday, 5 September 2021 04:07 (two years ago) link
I loved F&G so much two decades ago I am a little afraid to even think about it now, especially given the later careers of the various principals.
― Gwar ina Babyon (James Redd and the Blecchs), Sunday, 5 September 2021 04:12 (two years ago) link
same here
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 September 2021 04:18 (two years ago) link
I’m old. Square Pegs. The gay surfer guy with the headphones was my hero. And never forget Buffy and her little Nicaraguan orphan.
― Derek and Clive Get the Horn Street (Boring, Maryland), Sunday, 5 September 2021 04:23 (two years ago) link
my niece was just a little younger than Rory growing up, and she also had that super-bonded relationship with her mother (my sister). They loved Gilmore Girls so it meant a lot to me
― Dan S, Sunday, 5 September 2021 04:33 (two years ago) link
Not only could you not just pull up an entire series on Netflix or whatever, but you couldn't even really buy shows by the season until dvd—some series came out on vhs, but only very select titles like Twin Peaks, etc—so the producers of these dgaf about continuity because why bother
Kind of related, but I was recently going back though random WKRP's, and was reminded that they had to do a clip show for their 8th or 9th ep because they'd been taken off the air for a couple months, and that was the easiest & cheapest way to relaunch the show.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 September 2021 05:52 (two years ago) link
Just remembered that Topanga on BMW had like three different sets of parents (one of her dads was Peter Tork!).
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Sunday, 5 September 2021 05:57 (two years ago) link
I was hardly a regular viewer, but I don't remember Boy Meets World being anything but terrible. I do have to wonder, though: does it represent possibly the last time that one of these shows could be so blatantly homoerotic without (as far as I can remember) ever feeling the need to seriously acknowledge the existence of queerness?
― Les hommes de bonbons (cryptosicko), Sunday, 5 September 2021 06:23 (two years ago) link
Out of the dumb stuff I watched passively as a kid - Dawson's Creek
Out of the stuff I actively searched for in later life - Big Mouth
― g simmel, Sunday, 5 September 2021 09:21 (two years ago) link
Buffy or Daria. Probably going to the former but I hope the latter gets some votes. Not seen any of the most recent ones - I sort of liked the look of Derry Girls from the ads but no idea if it actually would be for me.
― emil.y, Sunday, 5 September 2021 16:04 (two years ago) link
I watched a couple of episodes of Derry Girls and enjoyed it, thought the cast were talented, but ultimately I’m not in the mood for that kind of shit now. It gets harder to watch these shows the further away you get from your own teens. When I was in college I watched 90210 and Saved by the Bell ironically, with no emotional connection to them. Beavis and Butthead I thought was legitimately great though. Daria looked interesting at the time but I kind of felt I already knew everything about the culture it was trying to comment on.
― Josefa, Sunday, 5 September 2021 18:19 (two years ago) link
Big Mouth easily.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Sunday, 5 September 2021 21:43 (two years ago) link
Gilmore Girls or My So-Called Life, no contest.
― Sam Weller, Monday, 6 September 2021 07:56 (two years ago) link
Although with Gilmore Girls I very quickly tired of anything to do with Rory's love life (so the main "teen" aspect of the show). I much preferred all of Lorelei's relationships (w/ Rory, w/ her boyfriends, w/ the grandparents) and the quirky bucolic small-town semi-plots. A very comforting show.
― Sam Weller, Monday, 6 September 2021 08:01 (two years ago) link
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Sunday, 5 September 2021 21:43 (yesterday) bookmarkflaglink
FP
― he ain't perfect but fuck me he's a rheillee (imago), Monday, 6 September 2021 13:37 (two years ago) link
is there anything problematic about Big Mouth?
― g simmel, Monday, 6 September 2021 14:08 (two years ago) link
big mouth is genuinely one of the most aesthetically repellent things i've ever attempted to watch lol
the Sex Education snub is what you'd expect from a US-centric list but I'd have probably voted F&G anyway, a show that doesn't need to hammer home the interior lives of its characters but expresses them with exquisite subtlety
American Vandal S1 was amazing, got about 2 minutes into S2
― he ain't perfect but fuck me he's a rheillee (imago), Monday, 6 September 2021 14:13 (two years ago) link
one of the most aesthetically repellent things
Can't argue with that. Still almost voted for it.
― i carry the torch for disco inauthenticity (Eric H.), Monday, 6 September 2021 14:21 (two years ago) link
a whole show about horrifically ugly children constantly jacking off
― the 45-year-old gaz coomber (Whiney G. Weingarten), Monday, 6 September 2021 16:25 (two years ago) link
Step By Step isn't on the list bruh
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Monday, 6 September 2021 16:32 (two years ago) link
Voted for Daria but hadnt spotted Big Mouth was in the list dammit
Also why is Degressi nextgen there but not Degrassi HIgh?
― Stoop Crone (Trayce), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:33 (two years ago) link
Because EW staff skews millennial rather than gen x-er I assume. What a bunch of broomheads.
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:37 (two years ago) link
Yeah, there's like one old person on staff who threatened to resign if Happy Days, The Facts of Life, Welcome Back Kotter, and Square Pegs weren't included.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:54 (two years ago) link
tbh, as much as I love Sally Field, including Gidget feels like pandering to the over 60s in the readership. It was NOT good. If they were going back that far, they should've opted for the Patty Duke Show.
― Ⓓⓡ. (Johnny Fever), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:58 (two years ago) link
I never felt like Happy Days was a "teen show" in the way the others on the list were.
― Halfway there but for you, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:21 (two years ago) link
1. Friday Night Horse (NBC/DirecTV, 2006)2. Buffy the Vampire Horse (WB/UPN, 1997)3. The H.O.R.S.E. (Fox, 2003)4. Beverly Hills, Horse (Fox, 1990)5. Freaks and Horse (NBC, 1999)6. Gilmore Horse (WB/CW, 2000)7. My So-Called Horse (ABC, 1994)8. Veronica Horse (UPN/CW, 2004)9. The Fresh Prince of Horse (NBC, 1990)10. Dawson's Horse (WB, 1998)11. Horse (MTV, 1997)12. Degrassi: The Next Generation (CTV, 2001)13. Horse (WB, 1998)14. The Wonder Horse (ABC, 1988)15. Party of Horse (Fox, 1994)16. Horse (UPN, 1996)17. The Vampire Horse (CW, 2009)18. American Horse (Netflix, 2017)19. Gossip Horse (CW, 2007)20. A Different Horse (NBC, 1987)21. That 70's Horse (Fox, 1998)22. Never Have I Horse (Netflix, 2020)23. Boy Meets Horse (ABC, 1993)24. Horse (HBO, 2019)25. Happy Horse (ABC, 1974)26. Saved by the Horse (NBC, 1989)27. Square Horse (CBS, 1982)28. Everwood (WB, 2002)29. The Facts of Horse (NBC, 1979)30. Horse (Fox, 2009)31. Sabrina, the Teenage Horse (ABC/WB, 1996)32. Beavis & Horse (MTV, 1993)33. Horse (WB, 2001)34. One Tree Horse (CW, 2003)35. We Are Who We Horse (HBO, 2020)36. Sister, Horse (ABC/WB, 1994)37. Horse (CW, 2017)38. Horse (Netflix, 2018)39. Teen Horse (MTV, 2011)40. Lizzie Horse (Disney Channel, 2001)41. Pretty Little Horse (ABC Family/Freeform, 2010)42. Welcome Back, Horse (ABC, 1975)43. All Horse (CW, 2018)44. Clone Horse (MTV, 2002)45. Derry Horse (Netflix, 2018)46. Horse15 (Hulu, 2019)47. Big Horse (Netflix, 2017)48. Horse (ABC, 1965)49. Horse (E4, 2007)50. On My Horse (Netflix, 2018)
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:44 (two years ago) link
Missed one :)
12. Degrassi: The Next Horse (CTV, 2001)
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:45 (two years ago) link
Dammit
28. Horse (WB, 2002)
― The 25 Best Songs Ever Ranked In Order (Deflatormouse), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:46 (two years ago) link
horrifically ugly children constantly jacking offWhich show are you referring to? Please be more specific.
― bookmarkflaglink (Darin), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 05:29 (two years ago) link
^gotta be Welcome Back Kotter
― A True White Kid that can Jump (Granny Dainger), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 06:18 (two years ago) link
Well they jack it a looot
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 12:15 (two years ago) link
Big Mouth was designed that way to repel pedophiles.
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 12:24 (two years ago) link
https://thumbs.gfycat.com/WeightyCavernousAgouti-size_restricted.gif
― So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 12:26 (two years ago) link
Beaver & Buffcoat
― Glower, Disruption & Pies (kingfish), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 14:43 (two years ago) link
― Christine Green Leafy Dragon Indigo, Tuesday, 7 September 2021 12:24 (five hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
whaddaya tryina sayyyyy
― he ain't perfect but fuck me he's a rheillee (imago), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 17:28 (two years ago) link