U.S. Supreme Court: Post-Ginsburg Edition

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The Gates foundation doesn't have an angle here, no abortion provider unions to crush.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 September 2021 22:17 (four years ago)

i guess it’s just fundamentally absurd to imagine a mega-billionaire who’d actually want Good Things and would be willing to crash his wealth to do it

caddy lac brougham? (will), Friday, 3 September 2021 22:18 (four years ago)

You don't get an invite to Little Saint James through good works.

papal hotwife (milo z), Friday, 3 September 2021 22:28 (four years ago)

meanwhile Musk probably just Zoomin w Greg Abbot on the reg.

***doomer alert pls scroll past***

any billionaires that are willing to get nakedly ‘polticial’ in any real sense are going to go full-on fash prob in my lifetime

caddy lac brougham? (will), Friday, 3 September 2021 22:49 (four years ago)

politicious

caddy lac brougham? (will), Friday, 3 September 2021 22:51 (four years ago)

Supercalifragilisticextrapoliticious

Richard Marxist (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 3 September 2021 23:00 (four years ago)

Here’s a depressing thought - by the time someone gets a “procedurally proper” challenge to this law before the Supreme Court, a lot of abortion infrastructure in Texas and states that pass similar laws will be gone anyway, because they’re shut down in the meantime.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Saturday, 4 September 2021 04:47 (four years ago)

i have another depressing one: this statute has an extremely bizarre and detailed statement of legislative intent and severability which explains that even if a court finds it's illegal in one case, the legislature intends for it to remain standing for all the *other* cases where it *doesn't* create an undue burden. and even the individual WORDS and PHRASES of the bill are intended to be severable. so these fascists want to keep a zombie abortion ban going for as long as they can no matter how many cases they lose.

criminally negligible (harbl), Saturday, 4 September 2021 12:14 (four years ago)

good morning!

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 4 September 2021 12:48 (four years ago)

so these fascists want to keep a zombie abortion ban going for as long as they can no matter how many cases they lose.

i'm sorry, can't read this post because i'm too busy keeping up with the "election fraud" cases that keep going no matter how obvious it is that it's wrong

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 13:42 (four years ago)

yup

criminally negligible (harbl), Saturday, 4 September 2021 14:59 (four years ago)

"flood the zone with shit" has expanded beyond its original bounds of media

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 15:01 (four years ago)

TBF, the election fraud lawyers have been sanctioned, and there's a pretty good chance they'll also be disbarred, so there are potential consequences for such an approach.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:38 (four years ago)

how much money did they make along the way?

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:53 (four years ago)

as far as i can tell, that's an awesome way to retire. just make a bunch of money, say "fuck you" to everyone you know, and go buy some island and do rich people things

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:54 (four years ago)

so Sidney, what do you do?

what did i do? back on the mainland? i was a...a paralegal

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:55 (four years ago)

hi, the name's Rudy! don't mind that pus coming out of those pores, it's perfectly normal! back on the mainland i started my own successful chain of putt-putt complexes along the I-70 corridor!

Karl Malone, Saturday, 4 September 2021 17:56 (four years ago)

Hey here's another chilling thought - so-called "election fraud" would make a perfect subject matter for another texas-style bounty law.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Sunday, 5 September 2021 02:58 (four years ago)

Yeah as terrible as the abortion law is it's also an insane legal way to try to do/undo all sorts of things. You could create a private cause of action against just about anyone or anything. It will almost certainly get shot down on all of those grounds, but imagine the possibilities if it doesn't.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 01:00 (four years ago)

It feels very troll-ish, like sovereign citizen style lawmaking.

a man often referred to in the news media as the Duke of Saxony (tipsy mothra), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 01:01 (four years ago)

I also think it was extra effective as something like abortion in Texas because there were apparently only like 24 abortion providers in the entire state, so there were pretty good odds of just scaring all 24 of them into shutting down. If a law like this was enacted regarding a more commonplace behavior, all hell would probably break loose at some point, and you'd certainly have legal challenges reaching the court faster.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:53 (four years ago)

It's fucking bad, and to roughly paraphrase the way I heard Adam Liptak put it, it just kind of seems like it can't be that you can enact a blatantly unconstitutional law and get away with it just because you were clever. On the other hand, it's important to remember that this didn't really happen just because they were "clever," it happened because the GOP got political power and used it to take over the Supreme Court. Admittedly, some of that was probably a lucky accident as Trump stumbled his way into the White House and then got three motherfucking nominations, but there have also been other very concerted and strategic long-term efforts that brought us to the current court.

longtime caller, first time listener (man alive), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 02:56 (four years ago)

Hello there, fucking Federalist Society!

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:10 (four years ago)

...Which seems like a misnomer, because the original Federalists were in favor of a strong central government, not keeping the federal government as weak as possible and scattering political power to the states.

it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Tuesday, 7 September 2021 03:12 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

JUSTICE ALITO SPECIFICALLY QUOTES FROM/CALLS OUT @AdamSerwer @TheAtlantic PIECE & CALLS IT "INFLAMMATORY"https://t.co/2MygIMJKZ0

— Leah Litman (@LeahLitman) September 30, 2021

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:15 (four years ago)

Serwer article criticized Texas abortion shadow docket midnight decision

https://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/2021/09/my-we-are-not-nullifying-roe-v-wade-t-shirt-has-many-people-asking-questions-already-answered-by-by-shirt

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:18 (four years ago)

I’m dipping in & out of his talk, but Justice Alito’s level of indignation / defensiveness at criticisms of the shadow docket revealing that he consumes a lot more mainstream media than I would have guessed https://t.co/9ibYfg97Nd

— Kate Shaw (@kateashaw1) September 30, 2021

curmudgeon, Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:19 (four years ago)

Alito isn’t likely to change but it’s good he is aware of this criticism

curmudgeon, Friday, 1 October 2021 00:36 (four years ago)

Why? He won't change.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 October 2021 00:38 (four years ago)

he already had the dissents available to him pointing out why he was wrong. he's been aware. supreme court justices are lawyers, too. they know people disagree with them and it just makes them dig in harder. ask me how i know!

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:11 (four years ago)

he's discovered hate-reading and he can't bear to not respond to something that makes him mad. he should post on ilx.

certified juice therapist (harbl), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:11 (four years ago)

Alito was very much against having the event taped or streamed but it was eventually allowed. Now videos of it are all over the internet with people dunking on him. I don't think this was the outcome he was going for.

Mr. Cacciatore (Moodles), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:26 (four years ago)

And he won't care because he's an asshole who's made grievance his shtick since 2006. He's by far the worst nominee of the last 20 years. Look at him -- he looks like the ultimate nerd whose head was rubbed and is getting his revenge.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Friday, 1 October 2021 01:30 (four years ago)

he's discovered hate-reading and he can't bear to not respond to something that makes him mad. he should post on ilx.

Sad lol

Imo the Hobby Lobby case was his New Jersey

Extinct Namibian shrub genus: Var. (Ye Mad Puffin), Friday, 1 October 2021 10:52 (four years ago)

three weeks pass...

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/mcconnell-lauds-thomas-says-supreme-court-should-not-heed-rule-of-polls/2021/10/21/2766cbcc-32b9-11ec-9241-aad8e48f01ff_story.html

Supreme Court rules that Texas anti-abortion law can stay in effect for now but they will hear 2 challenges to it on November 1, the day before the state of Virginia governor Election Day. Meanwhile the Heritage Association throws a 30th anniversary celebration of Thomas getting on the court and Thomas is there along with a bunch of Republicans. Seems like kinda political and biased thing to do period, and especially weeks before a hearing. Sotomayor dissented from decision to let Texas law stay in effect for now

curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 October 2021 05:38 (four years ago)

re: thomas, his wife is openly one of the most republican republicans of all republican republican Republican. of all time.5 of the 6 of them are that openly republican, and by that i republican republican

John Stockton buying a used car from (Karl Malone), Saturday, 23 October 2021 05:48 (four years ago)

Above items about Thomas’ wife and conservative justices were somehow never mentioned when Biden’s new Supreme Court Commission worried in print that expanding the court could hurt its legitimacy. As if that hasn’t already been done

curmudgeon, Saturday, 23 October 2021 13:34 (four years ago)

Not just the EPA’s authority; #SCOTUS has agreed to take up Congress’s *constitutional* authority to delegate to the EPA the power to regulate greenhouse gas emissions. https://t.co/sapajhqiDw

— Steve Vladeck (@steve_vladeck) October 29, 2021

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 October 2021 01:39 (four years ago)

but Stephen Breyer will save us

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Saturday, 30 October 2021 01:41 (four years ago)

Breyer will save us by adding lots of footnotes in his dissent to the eventual 6-3 decision and tell us that is how the system works

curmudgeon, Saturday, 30 October 2021 14:48 (four years ago)

imagine needing to get an abortion in TX, and then doing some "research" online to figure out where else you can go

And while the states near Texas may not have the draconian six-week ban that the Supreme Court allowed to stand before it hears the case, many are still hostile to abortion rights. Oklahoma requires an ultrasound and 72-hour waiting period. Kansas has a 24-hour waiting period and both private insurance (without an additionally purchased rider) and plans in the state’s health exchange only cover the procedure in cases of life endangerment. Arkansas has a 72-hour waiting period that only begins after an in-person, state-directed counseling session aimed at dissuading the patient from having the abortion.

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/news/texas-abortion-oklahoma-arkansas-kansas

Karl Malone, Saturday, 30 October 2021 15:26 (four years ago)

It all seems very bad!

Its big ball chunky time (Jimmy The Mod Awaits The Return Of His Beloved), Saturday, 30 October 2021 15:35 (four years ago)

https://www.supremecourt.gov/oral_arguments/live.aspx

curmudgeon, Monday, 1 November 2021 14:15 (four years ago)

Now

curmudgeon, Monday, 1 November 2021 14:15 (four years ago)

Texas is making a terrible case.

Chief Justice Roberts does not sound happy with Texas Solicitor General Judd Stone, who resisted his (very good) hypothetical, leading Roberts to snipe: "My question is what we call a 'hypothetical.'" But remember that Roberts voted to block SB 8 from the start.

— Mark Joseph Stern (@mjs_DC) November 1, 2021

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 15:04 (four years ago)

does any of that matter though? it's not about who can make a more convincing argument

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 1 November 2021 15:21 (four years ago)

98 percent of the time, yeah. But Kav sounded like he was on the fence.

So who you gonna call? The martini police (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Monday, 1 November 2021 15:24 (four years ago)

must have not talked to the groups that bankroll him yet today

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 1 November 2021 15:25 (four years ago)

tbf, the incompetence of the Texas AG and the utterly threadbare qualities of this law may be the saving grace here, but that's a small comfort in the grand scheme of things

Muad'Doob (Moodles), Monday, 1 November 2021 15:31 (four years ago)


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