"we'll change the things that need changing and that's all we'll change": the paSUKification of post-brexit politics 2021

I don't really care who Chris Deerin is, or what his take on the news is, though? The Scottish Greens aren't shitting themselves, they're dragging the SNP leftward, and they're also not the English Green Party, of progressive alliance fame.

calzino correctly read the tweet and you incorrectly read his post

“They” = the commeltariat as represented in this case by Chris Deerin

“It” = a progressive alliance inc Scottish Greens

He is not saying Scottish Greens are shitting themselves about the Scottish Greens, that would make no sense

Okay, that's my fault for assuming he was talking about things happening, not about people talking about things happening.

I'll let you off this time seeing as though I was pished and very impolite last night! But come on, at least 90% of posting on here is about how illiberal and anti-progressive the UK commentariat is. The Green party is still riven with melts, transphobes, ecofash arseholes and hypocrites, but yes, I do understand in this case the Scottish Greens have a had a progressive influence in a PR system and was referring to the NS prick.

The Scottish Greens are further left than Labour were in 2015-2019. Glad they've been able -- via Blair-era devolution lol -- to get some left-wing politics in.

This could be significant.

Yeah, you've a fair point in all a lot of that - I'm just getting performatively arsey about confusing the two parties as part of fitting in up here. In five years when I get stopped at the border, I want to have a body of social media to prove that I have been sufficiently radicalised!

scottish green guy on ch4 news last night had a troughton and daleks poster behind him. that's all i know.

obv an eco-fascist then, who favours the Dalek Holocaust final solution!

This is pretty detailed, and it goes into NZ politics as well.

While we wait for the final text of the #PossibleSNPGreenDeal, which I expect to tweet a lot about this afternoon, mute as required, there’s still some confusion about what form of cooperation is being discussed. Unless something has radically changed, it’s the New Zealand model.

— James Mackenzie (@mrjamesmack) August 20, 2021

How to prove you haven’t read Adam Smith without saying you haven’t read Adam Smith 😂 https://t.co/1Cv2fvd1C4

— Nicola Sturgeon (@NicolaSturgeon) August 21, 2021

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9dsG5PXEAMCKxl?format=jpg&name=4096x4096

this latest low-budget Bruce Willis movie looks really shit

hahahahahahaha

"we" did, did we paul???????

i have literally never heard anyone of any persuasion even attempt to make that argument, much less assume it as given

quelle difference?

his mind went a long time ago, somewhere between Stoya come to athens/shitting in a fountain/KS will advance the class struggle

I don't think even if a bad-take specialist like Freedland was having a very bad day he'd come up with such specious nonsense, but in Paul's mind this was apparently consensus in recent times.

Gonna wait until Von Schleicher weighs in on this

if someone made a fake Guardian byline that read: Right-wing populism is not very palatable to most, but at least for now it is a firewall against full-blown fascism. I would believe it was real tbh!

It would be more real if you swapped out "fascism" for "Corbynism"

yeah, that was often what they actually meant

I'm looking forward to Kieth's position on penal slave labour.

He's forensically aware that a lot of red wall lads are into it

Kieth is asking for guarantees that no food products shall be packed by Ian Huntley or Roy Whiting and extended sentences for lazy, unproductive prison slaves.

Labour members are now being purged for any contact, no matter how tenuous, with a body before it was actually proscribed. Not sure how far back this stretches but on that basis I had better publicly confess & hand myself in for show trial. Has nobody read Koestler in Party HQ? https://t.co/LWcdiGdEXg

— John McDonnell MP (@johnmcdonnellMP) August 23, 2021

For whatever good it does there’s a “Defend The Left” petition against these purges:

http://chng.it/wH9zvzWQPw

Signed.

Also, did anyone read the Sirin Kale interview with Apsana Begum where the writer spent about a third of the piece asking AB why someone on £30k a year felt entitled to social housing, and why once she became an MP on £80k she didn’t relinquish her flat? Pernicious stuff, leading to bullshit on social media about council tenants being ‘subsidised’ by the taxpayer (we are not, the build costs of my home were met decades ago by the rents paid by tenants).

people on 30k+ living in social housing would only be a problem if you despise any elements of universalism, which is supposed be the paternalist position that Tories take - like council houses are a form of social welfare reserved for riff raff, a petri dish for scum! The main problem is selfish wankers or parasitical landlords buying up/depleting social housing stock at discount prices for easy money.

Frank Dobson lived a few blocks away from my flat, in a very nice council flat, until his death. I didn’t begrudge him the tenancy for one second.

i've said for years and years social housing didn't used to be about "low pay", it was a public good and a public right and time was when most people in council houses were working ffs

big council estates where i grew up were built for miners and there families aiui

I normally like whatever Sirin writes but her line of questioning about the council flat really enraged me. Mulight contact the CiF eds tomorrow to see if they’ll publish a rebuttal, since Apsana Begum ran and was elected on a manifesto to extend social housing to more people.

there is an old guy who lives around the corner from me who started out living in his council house with his parents when it was built in 1954 and then he bought it in the 80's. I quite like him tbh and refrain from going on rants about how Thatcher's right to buy coupled with both main parties hatred of anything good has atomised communities and made this country a hellhole!

I’m glad to say everyone on my floor is a tenant who believes in NOT buying their flat. My last actual landlord bought their own council flat in West Kensington for £20k at the start of Right to Buy and charged us market rent, obviously.

Labour pledge to replace Universal Credit with new name to end the 'stigma' - but don't promise to reverse £20-a-week cut

Asked if he still planned to “scrap” Universal Credit, as Jeremy Corbyn said in 2019, Mr Reynolds told the Mirror: “We want to replace it. That’s the language that we use.”

It's all about semantics and re-branding with these cunts, but zero pledges to raise what is amongst the nastiest, most punitive and lowest paying benefits systems in comparison to neighbouring EU countries. Though it is terrible for poor old UC to to be stigmatised by shouty lefties and bleeding heart wets who disapprove of the poverty and misery it has wrought on millions of people. Maybe rename it Kieth's National Pancrack.

the ABSOLUTE BARE FUCKING MINIMUM a Labour manifesto should contain is a pledge to restore that 80-odd quid a month cut (doesn't sound so bad when you call it £20 a week eh?) and if their magic triangulation tells them that they have to hedge on this then every single person responsible for that needs a swift guillotining

more people will die and/or get into an endless cycle of debt basically

but not the kind of people we want to be voting Labour, obv

they are taking a position where the tories could totally outflank them by offering some completely inadequate/derisory £3 a week rise or something, then Kieth can come with a £3.25 pledge. This is how opposition works now.

I'm seeing some people suggesting Sharon Graham might be winning the vote count for next Unite gen-sec. I don't know much about any of the candidates other than Coyne is an evil Murdoch plant and hah hah fuck him if he loses.

they are taking a position where the tories could totally outflank them by offering some completely inadequate/derisory £3 a week rise or something, then Kieth can come with a £3.25 pledge. This is how opposition works now.

lol apparently Coyne has finished in third place in Unite gen-sec election.

Murdoch and the Labour right got thumped pic.twitter.com/aCZRM5TO7q

— Simon Vessey (@Simon_Vessey) August 25, 2021

Kieth Starmer, Luke Akehurst, John Rentoul... your boy took one hell of a beating. It's actually quite sad so many members voted for this Murdoch lapdog tbh

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/E9oZ22aX0AAQ3eq?format=jpg&name=large

u loves to see it

If there’s one thing the Labour right have got going for them, it’s that they’re good at winning elections.

One more time:

coming soon . . . pic.twitter.com/N29YIUfuRz

— Oliver Eagleton (@EagletonOliver) August 25, 2021

No thank you

The Kieth Project.. coming to an end soon

I was speaking to my brother last week, who hated Corbyn so much he started voting SNP, and he thinks Starmer is a complete disaster too.