neon genesis evangelion

that's probably a good idea. avoiding spoilers...

I strongly prefer end of evangelion but I never thought this one was even gonna get close, so that's fine. and it didn't, not really, but I'd agree that it did its job as the conclusion to the rebuilds (which I thought only started getting interesting with 3.33 tbh) about as well as you could hope for.

man, I was SO sucked in by the time that bonkers last act rolled around even tho it was nearly 3am on a work weeknight at that point. it had that human emotional punch that was, well again, not really on par with end of evangelion but still pretty heavy. that's what I want from this series.

I still don't love the CG-heavy art style all the rebuilds share but this thing is bursting with tons of wild imagery. and the CG is used in some interesting non-standard ways for that last act (and in ways I found stiff during several of the action set pieces). end of evangelion is easily the better-looking film tho imo. (tho again, hard to top for me.)

also, it's kinda funny how impenetrable this thing is. I think you could reasonably watch end of evangelion in isolation and miss out on a lot, sure, but still get something out of it. I don't think that's even remotely possible here. it's dense and never really stops being dense. and it's been many years since I last watched the rebuilds and it was late and I was sleepy. definitely missed a few things. I need to re-watch all of the rebuilds now, I think. I'm already tempted to watch this one again tho.

the whole first hour is one of the best parts of the entire series

― ufo, Friday, 13 August 2021 15:01 (yesterday) link

the whole village section i thought, wow, anno has finally figured it out, he's going to make the version of this that breaks through into being about something other than itself and about the curse of evangelion

boy did i feel sucker-punched by the second half after that

the whole first hour is one of the best parts of the entire series

― ufo, Friday, 13 August 2021 15:01 (yesterday) link

the whole village section i thought, wow, anno has finally figured it out, he's going to make the version of this that breaks through into being about something other than itself and about the curse of evangelion

boy did i feel sucker-punched by the second half after that

my biggest issue with this one & the rebuilds as a whole is probably just mari's character. she never really adds anything or serves much of a purpose, even in this one where she has more to do. i don't think it'd be too hard to completely excise her from the series without anything really having been lost

my favourite weird background detail is asuka's wonderswan

someone in the tv series (the class rep?) has something that looks a lot like a sega saturn

the mari 'reveal' is so weirdly half-baked. she seems to make more sense on the meta-fictive and psychoanalytic levels than in anything that happens on the basic diagetic level of the plot. the last reel seems to suggest that accepting the possibility of making new emotional connections outside the oedipal nightmare of previous versions is what's allowed shinji / anno to escape ~the curse of evangelion~. but none of that has been set up in his interactions with her previously

more and more i think the ideal version of this for me would have been quickly dispatching with gendo and fuyutsuki in ten minutes in the middle and then we just get back to more of people living in the remnants. rei farms. asuka plays the wonderswan some more. shinji becomes the village fisherman and finds a way to live with his trauma.

i guess if we’re doing spoilers…

*****spoiler*****

shinji/anno finds peace as… a salaryman was not the ending i was hoping for either.

agreed that mari is kind of a nothing character. never been a big fan of the mari character design either. but i was ok with the relationship in the reveal tho. i mean, they did go thru some crazy things together. maybe they bonded in the 10 years or whatever that they didn’t show? kaworu would have been like 9000x better but i was still happy that our poor shmuck shinji finally gets to have a real adult relationship like misato and ruoji did. congratulations!

rei asking about every little thing in the village reminded me of

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=faXDCp0BDU4

*ryoji kaji

maybe they bonded in the 10 years or whatever that they didn’t show?

shinji spent that entire time in unit 01. the only time he'd interacted with mari before this was the brief meeting in 2.0 which just makes everything about the pairing strange

more and more i think the ideal version of this for me would have been quickly dispatching with gendo and fuyutsuki in ten minutes in the middle and then we just get back to more of people living in the remnants. rei farms. asuka plays the wonderswan some more. shinji becomes the village fisherman and finds a way to live with his trauma.

this would have been much more interesting & daring yeah but the only real issue i have with the actual ending is mari

shinji spent that entire time in unit 01. the only time he'd interacted with mari before this was the brief meeting in 2.0 which just makes everything about the pairing strange

heh, well, I did say that I was pretty sleepy by the time it was winding down. time to watch it again.

if anyone is a 'patreon supporter' of the videogames but also anime podcast 'abnormal mapping' their episode on this was actually full of good takes

tho actually it was mostly bgm's read tbh

can't believe i still haven't seen this, don't worry i am really selectively reading the thread lol

welp it's up, £199/$279

Well shit. lol

Classic dub, though?

yep classic dub and sub, no Fly Me To The Moon tho

$279 is the promotional preorder price. Can't wait to see what the full retail price will be!

UK price is £199 until Dec 6th when it becomes £299
there are only 1,500 sets though so maybe it'll sell out by then

people on messageboards tracking order numbers saying half of those are sold already lol

uh yeah woof come on the perfect collection was like only $125

yep classic dub and sub

oh god you have to let me know what classic sub means

sorry i just read the press release and i know you have no further information

how dare they do this to me

and i really can't afford it lol :(

i bought it i'm a dumbass

fwiw the marketing guy from the UK release is saying that other editions are being revealed at the end of the month

Additional editions being announced on the 30th!

— miles thomas (@Real_Kilometers) August 19, 2021

i'm a dumbass!!! lol

i'm gonna be so happy when i have dat box tho

it must cost a small fortune to license "fly me to the moon"

well, I'm not exactly proud, but I grabbed one too.

no "fly me to the moon" gave me serious pause tho. but I still my busted bootleg dvd set from 2000 or so for that, I suppose.

for $275, no fly me to the moon = no sale. maybe the inevitable cheaper version later.

finally watching 3.0+1.0 tomorrow, rewatching the first three movies today

anyone wanna know how worried i am that the “classic dub and sub” are just the sd platinum edition ported to blu rays

i will be so mad if they got me to spend $300 on a translation i don’t like and a release of the show i already own

oh man don’t say things like this, i still haven’t even made my peace with “no fly me to the moon”

what do they even play instead btw? is it like how married with children just has generic muzak for the theme now?

assuming they'll sub in some other bgm

i literally cannot remember what netflix did

they should just use the same public domain married with children muzak whenever this problem arises

From what I heard they just subbed in Rei's theme. Did they end up having to cut this from the end of Episode 15 too? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2hpVoj2skvo

Also salty that these songs ARE on the JP streaming version so it seems like a money thing

the only legitimate version of the original is one you downloaded on a 56k modem

i have probably criticized 2.0 upthread bc of the uptick in fan service and harem anime tropes but the fight sequences are just tremendous

also the scene where touji does not get picked to be an eva pilot is so funny

3.0 still the best movie ever made

how do i hire kaworu nagisa as my therapist

found 3.0+1.0 aka “emotionally healthy end of evangelion” profoundly moving

Aus & NZ boxset details finally up, 500 copies at $519 from Sept 1st
https://www.madmanfilms.com.au/evangelion/

also Scotland Loves Anime details are up, includes a screening of End Of Evangelion at Edinburgh Filmhouse
https://www.lovesanimation.com/film/end-of-evangelion

lol, they're just straight-up trolling. $175 for collectors edition, and $45 for standard, and the biggest difference I see between the two is that the standard edition doesn't have the classic dub and subtitles.

i canceled my ultimate edition bc i felt i was getting fleeced (and also couldn't afford it and really needed the money)

also i feel like the message of 3.0+1.0 is that evangelion is dead and i shouldn't spend $300 on something i own twice

$175 for collectors edition, and $45 for standard, and the biggest difference I see between the two is that the standard edition doesn't have the classic dub and subtitles.

feel like this bonus feature may or must be coming at a great expense for gkids but idk

it's like six additional discs too

I watched half of 3.0+1.0 last night and loved it and cannot wait to finish it tonight

All soundtracked by the world's corniest piano suicide ballad which gradually morphs, apparently without anybody involved noticing that this is an odd thing to do, into an "All You Need Is Love" type singalong complete with "A Day In The Life" strings. This from a show that begins with giant robot fights and wacky hijinks revolving around a warm-water penguin.

― Doctor Casino, Saturday, October 20, 2012 1:34 AM (32 minutes ago) Bookmark

iirc its called Komm Susser Todd and is a blatant Hey Jude rip as well

― turds (Hungry4Ass), Saturday, October 20, 2012 2:07 AM bookmarkflaglink

i've concluded tonight that it's also borrowing something from "Questions 67 and 68" by Chicago. there's a section in the middle with this piano banging out the chords at such-and-such tempo and it really reminds me of the "tumbling down" section.

also just listened to that N64 MIDI rendition again, lolllll. when the chorus voice comes in!