the crimes of george lucas ('90s on)

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xp 'loved' Empire seems like a stretch, but she rightfully pointed out that it was the most imaginative and artfully made of the movies

cankles, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:06 (fourteen years ago) link

there's no star wars poll? like which one of the three is the best? it's #2, right?

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:07 (fourteen years ago) link

of course it's V

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:08 (fourteen years ago) link

a Star Wars poll would just force us to do our routines one more time.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:09 (fourteen years ago) link

Do you know what, I say "use your HATRED Anakin" all the time. the Viceroy picked up one of those kids picture books that has 10 buttons that make noise and did a PERFECT job recreating III with it. "Use your HATRED Anakin" "I must return to Naboo" "volcano sounds" "I must return to Naboo"

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

and "NOOOOOO"

kind-hearted, sensitive keytar player (Abbott), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

a Star Wars poll would just force us to do our routines one more time.

nah-we'd be talking about highlights rather than talking about what makes the new ones suck balls

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:10 (fourteen years ago) link

I wouldn't hold your breath there...

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

of course it's V

oh right--sorry forgot the crazy number scheme

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:11 (fourteen years ago) link

Half the complaints about Jar Jar and other aliens in the movie would have been taken care of if they'd gone the route with Greedo, Jabba, etc. in the originals and had them speak in Ben Burtt-invented languages with appropriate subtitles, I figure.

― Ned Raggett, Thursday, July 16, 2009 1:49 PM (18 minutes ago) Bookmark

yeah none of that happens in the prequels does it?! that stuff was so cool. how does a man get so much lest trusting of his audience as he gets older...

goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:12 (fourteen years ago) link

A poll of our least favorite bit of Lucas dialogue would be sweet, though.

My name is Kenny! (Alfred, Lord Sotosyn), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

there's probably more than fifty chunks of bad dialog though

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

like i'm trying to think of GOOD dialog

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

some of chewbacca's musings, certainly

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:13 (fourteen years ago) link

flububu

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

The theatrical rescreening of the original trilogy was a revelation in how blatantly awful Luke was. I was rooting for him to get eaten in the ice cave.

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:14 (fourteen years ago) link

he's our cocky flyboy

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I liked that one song the cantina band played

cool app (uh oh I'm having a fantasy), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:16 (fourteen years ago) link

I think any "great dialog" poll is going to be all Han, Leia and Vader with a couple of Lando quotes thrown

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:17 (fourteen years ago) link

laugh it up fuzzball

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:19 (fourteen years ago) link

tbh the only actor who manages to pull off his dialogue 100% convincingly throughout the entire series is alec guinness

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

which is a miracle if you actually read what he says, rather than listen to him say it

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:20 (fourteen years ago) link

but then again guinness wasn't necessarily reliant upon having a decent director, the dude sleepwalked through that role beautifully

"he said...all things passantino the night" (omar little), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:21 (fourteen years ago) link

I think most everyone here works on ILM! Or at least contributes.

It's weird to roll one's eyes and laugh out loud at the same time.

Your heartbeat soun like sasquatch feet (polyphonic), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:26 (fourteen years ago) link

how does a man get so much lest trusting of his audience as he gets older...

my guess = did not originally quite conceive of his product as being "for children," was gradually convinced that it was, then later put awkward position of trying to make product that was both "for children" AND "for adult geeks"

nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:28 (fourteen years ago) link

interesting theory but mine is that he is a sociopath

goole, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:29 (fourteen years ago) link

hahaha

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

I think if someone finds an animated GIF of a beardo fucking a gigantic pile of money, you will have a more accurate representation of what was going through Lucas's head

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:30 (fourteen years ago) link

beardo shot first!

Philip Nunez, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean I think of the difference between Star Wars and Ewoks really being the drift from "I am making a sort of B-movie sci-fi fun-action epic" to "I am also part of a newish genre of fantastical entertainment children enjoy, so something should be small and fuzzy"

nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

animated GIF of an Ewok fucking a pile of C3PO

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:32 (fourteen years ago) link

also what is the difference between these two things, really? weren't B movies like designed for kids, originally for Saturday afternoons at the Bijou?

I am making a sort of B-movie sci-fi fun-action epic" to "I am also part of a newish genre of fantastical entertainment children enjoy,

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:33 (fourteen years ago) link

You know, they could have played the Ewoks exactly as they did and no one would have complained if they'd added scenes with them eating the fallen Stormtrooper clones.

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:35 (fourteen years ago) link

oh man cannibal Ewoks would be golden

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

i don't think it's cannibalism if ewoks eat humans. just dinner.

Ømår Littel (Jordan), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:36 (fourteen years ago) link

I mean I think of the difference between Star Wars and Ewoks really being the drift from "I want to impress and show up my buddies Steven and Francis" to "I rule and want to make more and more shitloads of money and who cares what anybody thinks"

― nabisco, Thursday, July 16, 2009 3:32 PM (3 minutes ago) Bookmark Suggest Ban Permalink

saddam hoosteen (s1ocki), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:37 (fourteen years ago) link

http://evilewoks.ytmnd.com/

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M5XG1nSlxuI&feature=related

now imagine them passing around fingers and munching on them in the midst of this

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

they already have the heads near the beginning of the song, just take that next step and have the human allies kind of afraid of them

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:39 (fourteen years ago) link

http://hawtaction.com/2008/08/20/GeorgeLucas.jpg

mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

http://blog.gamer20.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/11/george_lucas.jpg

mark cl, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:40 (fourteen years ago) link

La-de-da-de-dah
KILL THEM
La-de-da-de-dah
EAT NOW
EAT THE HUMAN SCUM
EAT THE HUMAN SCUMMMMMMM!

"Directed by DAVID LYNCH"

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:41 (fourteen years ago) link

i love those fuzzy bastards

kiddie rabies: attacked by brats (latebloomer), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:42 (fourteen years ago) link

btw listening to this over and over will make you slightly crazy

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:43 (fourteen years ago) link

Episode VII
Threat of the Ewoks

It is a period of fuzzy bastards...

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:45 (fourteen years ago) link

It's striking how these movies have bad-ass themes like the main theme and the Imperial theme... and they also have "Yub Nub".

suddenly, everything was dark and smelly (HI DERE), Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

CANNIBALS

At three a.m. he can’t take it anymore.

"Jedi?" he says loudly into the darkness.

"Hnnnh...wha?" says the archaeologist next to him, jerking alert from a deep sleep.

"I can't believe Jedi was your favorite," Jack says, feeling his balled-up jacket under his cheek as he turns his head to look at Daniel.

Daniel groans and rolls over, pressing his face against Sam's shoulder and pulling his own jacket over his head. "Make him stop, Sam."

"Even Teal'c thinks it's lame," Jack says.

"Indeed," Teal'c's voice echoes from the corner of their cell, where he sits attempting kel'no'reem. "The use of a second Death Star was derivative at best, although a number of the action sequences were quite entertaining."

"Oh, come on," Sam says, sounding a little muzzy. "The Ewoks were adorable."

Daniel mumbles something Jack can't hear, between the sound-absorbing quality of Sam's shoulder and the balled-up jacket Daniel still holds over one ear. "What was that, o tasteless one?"

"The Ewoks were cannibals!" Daniel says, sitting up suddenly and throwing his jacket at Jack. "When Luke, Han, and Chewbacca are taken prisoner by the Ewoks, you can see a skinned Ewok being roasted on a spit over a fire in the background. The Ewoks are the perfect example of a race that is underestimated and assumed to be ethical merely because they're cute, when all evidence shown suggests they engage in tribal warfare and devour their enemies."

"Cannibals? Daniel, they're like little teddy bears!" Carter says, aghast.

"Daniel Jackson, I believe you may be right." Teal'c sounds surprised. "I will view that film with a new perspective."

"Yeah, if the Pygmies of Planet Propaganda ever let us out. I think Daniel was making a little reference to our situation here."

"I said there was something fishy. You thought they were cute," Daniel scowls, flopping back onto the floor.

There's a moment of silence in the cell. Just when Daniel thinks he might get some sleep, Jack says, "So, if this is Jedi, do I get to be Han?"

"I am not Princess Leia!" Sam says, seeing immediately where this is going.

"You know, Teal'c, you'd make a great Lando."

Daniel swears he can hear Teal'c's eyebrow raise. He lets out a little sob, rolls onto his side, and prays for unconsciousness.

Mr. Que, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:46 (fourteen years ago) link

that's true, they're not entirely dissimilar, but I do think there are some small formal differences between making a "fun" sci-fi/action movie and a fantasy thing that's aimed at kids -- or at least at this point I think those tend to be two strains that have to be balanced out in movies that do both (like, say, Spiderman movies, or the way the Harry Potter movies have hoped to move from one toward the other) ... I guess you could also put it in terms of demographics, like whether you're skewing toward 15-year-olds or 10-year-olds, or questions like that.

certainly there was stuff at the time that was totally both (Superman movies, for instance), but part of what I mean, really, is that ... wasn't it sort of during the course of the original trilogy that the idea of "high-budget, non-animated, fantastical movie aimed at kids" kinda firmed up and became more of a thing? like kind of a boom around, say, E.T. or The Dark Crystal or whatever? which somehow accounts in my head for the tone of Return of the Jedi versus the two before it.

nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:47 (fourteen years ago) link

wasn't it sort of during the course of the original trilogy that the idea of "high-budget, non-animated, fantastical movie aimed at kids" kinda firmed up and became more of a thing? like kind of a boom around, say, E.T. or The Dark Crystal or whatever?

Definitely a demi-trend. The Neverending Story would count too.

Ned Raggett, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:48 (fourteen years ago) link

like even in terms of money and popularity, surely it seemed more like you could sell a shitload of Ewok merchandise in 1984 than it would have in 1977

nabisco, Thursday, 16 July 2009 19:49 (fourteen years ago) link


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