Theatrical release films spend a lot more time in pre-production than that kind of television episode.
― it is to laugh, like so, ha! (Aimless), Sunday, 1 August 2021 20:31 (four years ago)
New Tao Lin novel came out today, and probably a revival of his likely past abuses will follow.
suddenly tao lin is everywhere again, including granta. once again the publishing industry/literary world is happy to ignore credible accounts of his abuse— charlotte geater (@tambourine) July 29, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 6 August 2021 02:17 (four years ago)
The difference is now there’s not enough ilxors left to get a clusterfuck going about whether his books are good I guess
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Friday, 6 August 2021 03:38 (four years ago)
https://www.thedailybeast.com/saturday-night-live-alum-horatio-sanz-groomed-assaulted-17-year-old-fan-lawsuit-alleges
― “Heroin” (ft. Bobby Gillespie) (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 13 August 2021 21:38 (four years ago)
My first thought was “maybe they’ll drop the very annoying closing up the plug bag theme bit on comedy bang bang”
― Clara Lemlich stan account (silby), Saturday, 14 August 2021 02:03 (four years ago)
Bob Dylan sued for allegedly grooming, sexually abusing 12-year-old girl in 1965
― Montgomery Burns' Jazz (Tarfumes The Escape Goat), Monday, 16 August 2021 20:47 (four years ago)
This is a complicated situation, defined as grooming but with no sexual intent, that will probably create more definitive boundaries between performers and younger fans.
In light of the allegations against Alice Ripley, a conversation about interactions between theatre artists and fans has erupted online. But there are aspects to this story that many seem to be missing, especially within the theatre communities.— OnStage Blog (@OnstageBlog) August 24, 2021
― ... (Eazy), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 21:47 (four years ago)
I love Alice Ripley. this is rough :(
― Duke Detain (Neanderthal), Tuesday, 24 August 2021 21:49 (four years ago)
spend any time on social media following any kind of celebrity and the mental instability of lots of young people who interact with those celebrities will make you shudder. This is probably more pronounced these days with legions of weirdo 'stans' who frankly should be jettisoned into the sun; but even back then, from what I just read, Ripley should have known better and not engaged.
― akm, Tuesday, 24 August 2021 23:43 (four years ago)
Alice Ripley seems to have exercised very bad judgment and relished the attention of these young “fans,” but “grooming without sexual intent” seems like a weird charge
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 August 2021 23:52 (four years ago)
I’m glad the victims came forward though. This is a more ambiguous type of abuse but one that is probably common.
― treeship., Tuesday, 24 August 2021 23:59 (four years ago)
i've been following the story and that was a really interesting article that helped clarify a lot of questions I had.
― think “Gypsy-Pixie” and misspelled. (We are a white family.) (forksclovetofu), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 04:05 (four years ago)
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 00:52 (eleven hours ago) bookmarkflaglink
In the initial accusations against Ripley, she was accused of grooming, which is a term commonly used for manipulative behaviors that abusers use to gain access to a potential victim, coerce them to agree to the abuse, and reduce the risk of being caught.
I think this makes sense as a definition of grooming that doesn't necessarily have to include sexual intent, it could cover e.g. getting someone to keep stolen goods in their home, or lend large sums of money - there is an ulterior motive to the efforts to form an emotional relationship, and the motive is to get the other person to do something damaging to themselves that they wouldn't otherwise be willing to do - but I don't think the article really makes a good case that this is what's happening in this situation?
Did Alice Ripley allegedly groom these young people in hopes of sexually abusing them? It doesn’t appear that way. Did she apparently use the tool of grooming for other purposes with these fans? That’s an entirely different discussion.
what exactly are the "other purposes" that Ripley was allegedly using the tool of grooming for? what was her ulterior motive? the article implies that she formed these relationships with fans to gratify her ego, but that seems hazy as a justification for calling it grooming. In the definition above the 'abuse' is delineated as something distinct from the 'grooming', the grooming is to facilitate the abuse, but in this case it seems like the accusers are arguing that what they call the grooming was in itself 'abusive'?
― soref, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:28 (four years ago)
Yeah “grooming” might be the wrong word. It sounds like she might be emotionally immature and talked to these kids as if they were her peers. I can definitely see how they felt violated by this as she was ignoring boundaries.
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:44 (four years ago)
the article makes it pretty clear that she would unceremoniously 'dump' them after long, emotionally intimate relationships. imo both the emotionally intimate relationships and the dumping are abuses of the power she holds as an adult over children ffs.
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:53 (four years ago)
and when i say abuses i mean like, proper, full-on emotional damage that it could take years to recover from
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:54 (four years ago)
Yeah as I said earlier it is a kind of abuse—just one we haven’t seen discussed much in the metoo era.
― treeship., Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:56 (four years ago)
play whatever sick ego games you want with other adults - though you probably shouldn't! - but imagining my, i dunno 13-y-o as having identity questions and then latching onto a revered celebrity who actually texts them and invites them over, it's unthinkable really
― Tracer Hand, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 11:56 (four years ago)
Ugh
― Hitsville Ukase (James Redd and the Blecchs), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 12:34 (four years ago)
finished the Daily Beast article just now, seems pretty clear that Ripley is not being truthful in her denial that she only met fans briefly at the stage door or very occasionally had dinners with them, when DB has seen photos of her with one of these women in San Diego and SF (the woman lived in NYC). I was thinking about what kind of pathology made sense of this and decided that Ripley just sounds like a terrible person, no pathology needed.
― akm, Wednesday, 25 August 2021 14:45 (four years ago)
Ron Jeremy indicted on 34 counts of sexual assault.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Wednesday, 25 August 2021 23:55 (four years ago)
Seems like this should spark a reckoning with the porn industry. There are massive abuses there but people don’t like to think about it.
― treeship., Thursday, 26 August 2021 19:29 (four years ago)
Rose McGowan has gone over the edge
Larry Elder presser with Rose McGowan kicking off now pic.twitter.com/Hae9zUeogH— Dave Weigel (@daveweigel) September 12, 2021
― akm, Monday, 13 September 2021 15:59 (four years ago)
Yeah I shared that in the monthly politics thread yesterday, so unexpected. So her argument seems to be that too many Democrats ignored her claims and accusations (which is totally in the realm of possibility) that she has no choice but to now be a Republican and stump for mini-Trumps that have been credibly accused of sexual harassment?
― a superficial sheeb of intelligence (jon /via/ chi 2.0), Monday, 13 September 2021 16:35 (four years ago)
*sigh*
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Monday, 13 September 2021 17:19 (four years ago)
https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/?fbclid=IwAR0LhQwYtBmr9RqkiQOQfXfpYjzbdigW96AFg4Ii4rlriTE0fxYKZbyLYjA
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Thursday, 30 September 2021 20:46 (four years ago)
https://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:36 (four years ago)
Sorryhttps://www.pastemagazine.com/comedy/saturday-night-live/horatio-sanz-sexual-assault-snl/
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:38 (four years ago)
Never mind. Just trying to remove the fbclid. Don't know why it didn't work.
― Hans Holbein (Chinchilla Volapük), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:39 (four years ago)
ugh gross
― certified juice therapist (harbl), Thursday, 30 September 2021 21:42 (four years ago)
it's not including the slash in your link for some reason
In addition to Michaels, Shoemaker, and Fallon, the potential cast members around to witness Sanz’s conduct would have included Will Ferrell, Ana Gasteyer, Darrell Hammond, Chris Kattan, Tracy Morgan, Chris Parnell, Molly Shannon, Rachel Dratch, Tina Fey, Jerry Minor, Maya Rudolph, Amy Poehler, Dean Edwards, Seth Meyers, and Jeff Richards.
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 1 October 2021 03:09 (four years ago)
lmao
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 1 October 2021 09:12 (four years ago)
Now I’m reading this in Don Pardo’s voice always
― Legalize Suburban Benches (Raymond Cummings), Friday, 1 October 2021 10:45 (four years ago)
Reading everything in Don Pardo’s voice = people who have figured out how to live
― Lavator Shemmelpennick, Friday, 1 October 2021 12:17 (four years ago)
well everything appears to be back to normalhttps://www.nytimes.com/2021/11/18/nyregion/christopher-belter-rape-sentence.html
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 19 November 2021 23:49 (four years ago)
nothing much seemed to happen with that horatio sanz story, did it? maybe because he's frankly not famous enough to suffer a real career impact at this point.
― akm, Saturday, 20 November 2021 17:01 (four years ago)
silby's wish came true, at least.
― bobo honkin' slobo babe (sic), Saturday, 20 November 2021 18:32 (four years ago)
Noted Harvey lookalike Jeff Garlin leaves The Goldbergs after complaints about on-set behavior.
https://deadline.com/2021/12/jeff-garlin-exit-the-goldbergs-hr-investigations-season-9-1234892030/?
In his VF interview, Garlin dismissed accusations of being verbally offensive by saying that he is just being “silly” as part of his shtick as a comedian. He did note his penchant for dropping the word “vagina” on the set.According to a source on the show, a camera assistant made a complaint to her department head about Garlin’s use of the word. After the actor found out, he reportedly put his hands around her and kept saying “vagina” in her face over and over again. Overall, Garlin’s go-to jokes that a number of people on the show found offensive were talking about grandma’s vagina, balls and brassier, a co-worker said. Additionally, he would not address some longtime female crew members by name, using instead nicknames that some also considered offensive.
According to a source on the show, a camera assistant made a complaint to her department head about Garlin’s use of the word. After the actor found out, he reportedly put his hands around her and kept saying “vagina” in her face over and over again. Overall, Garlin’s go-to jokes that a number of people on the show found offensive were talking about grandma’s vagina, balls and brassier, a co-worker said. Additionally, he would not address some longtime female crew members by name, using instead nicknames that some also considered offensive.
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 December 2021 00:50 (four years ago)
It's pretty weird that the writer said "balls" without quotes
― licorice in the front, pizza in the rear (Whiney G. Weingarten), Friday, 17 December 2021 02:05 (four years ago)
grandma's ballsused to hand mepiece of candy
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:05 (four years ago)
he was talking about whose grandma? his?
― more difficult than I look (Aimless), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:53 (four years ago)
Grandma’s balls got run over by a reindeer
― ... (Eazy), Friday, 17 December 2021 03:54 (four years ago)
that show is so fucking terrible, maybe it was his negative abusive behavior to blame all along
― hopefully this review helped someone (Neanderthal), Friday, 17 December 2021 05:41 (four years ago)
how does one explain the steady solidity of Curb then?
― When Young Sheldon began to rap (forksclovetofu), Friday, 17 December 2021 07:06 (four years ago)
Chris Noth
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/tv/tv-news/chris-noth-accused-of-sexual-assault-1235063596/
― Precious, Grace, Hill & Beard LTD. (C. Grisso/McCain), Friday, 17 December 2021 14:34 (four years ago)
Saw some discussion of how a general accusation of "sexual assault" allows for some weaselly wiggle room. What Noth is being accused of is outright violent *rape.*
― Josh in Chicago, Friday, 17 December 2021 14:38 (four years ago)
New accusations against Bryan Singer.
https://variety.com/2021/film/news/bryan-singer-blake-stuerman-1235136986/
― peace, man, Tuesday, 21 December 2021 16:45 (four years ago)
no charges were ever brought against toback????
yes all my posts today are based on real names disallowed by the Spelling Bee
― Tracer Hand, Friday, 28 January 2022 11:11 (four years ago)
Sion Sono
https://deadline.com/2022/04/japanese-director-sion-sono-accused-of-sexual-harassment-1234994873/
― Daniel_Rf, Wednesday, 6 April 2022 16:50 (four years ago)